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Gartner: iPhone Sales Double in 2009 as Apple Claims Third Place in Smartphone Sales
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Do you have a source?
I'm pretty sure it didn't. You realize we're talking worldwide numbers here?
Strawman's argument that doesn't make sense. Then again, you never have. Your s**t-eating grin on all things Apple no matter how foolish you look doesn't deter you. I gotta admit you're loyal to the Kool-Aid.
So what you say about Nokia phones, I say about all iPods. What do you have to say to that?
If Nokia phones are bought so often, there must be something worthy to it to reflect sales. Same thing w/ the iPod.
But you got your blinders on and you'll spin ANYTHING to make it seem like the sky is black if Steve Jobs tells you so. lol
So then I hoppe an adroid site will note how webOS crushed them in growth?
Your point is silly.
If we're talking world sales, then of course Nokia and Blackberry spank iPhone sales. The iPhone's only strong market is the US where it's designed in and relentlessly marketed to.
If I had 1 popular car, loads of that car would sell.
If I had 15 popular cars, and all 15 models sell well, that doesn't make the individual cars any worse than the single one on offer above.
I'm loving the "If we exclude this segment of the market/exclude this company because they produce more than one handset/exclude this feature on phones APPLE IS TEH NUMBER ONES!!!!!111.
Are you a politician? You seem quite masterful at spin.
That is not how he put it.
He put it like one company has one very successfully car, and another company has 15 average to below average selling cars. When you combine all their average and below average sales together, you surpass the one massively successful car of the other company.
It is not like Nokia has 10 phones that are sold almost as much as iPhone.
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I was defining "popular" as popular to that company. Does everyone now have to sell an individual phone at the same quantity as the iphone to be popular for that brand now?
Nokia make a fair bit of cash on their handsets despite having a single phone which sells at the same level as the only phone on offer from apple.
Honestly, I'll agree with Ltd that apple have the best selling single handset if it makes you happy but when it is your ONLY handset on offer, what other way can it go?
marksman said:If I had 1 popular car, loads of that car would sell.
If I had 15 popular cars, and all 15 models sell well, that doesn't make the individual cars any worse than the single one on offer above.
I'm loving the "If we exclude this segment of the market/exclude this company because they produce more than one handset/exclude this feature on phones APPLE IS TEH NUMBER ONES!!!!!111.
Are you a politician? You seem quite masterful at spin.
That is not how he put it.
He put it like one company has one very successfully car, and another company has 15 average to below average selling cars. When you combine all their average and below average sales together, you surpass the one massively successful car of the other company.
It is not like Nokia has 10 phones that are sold almost as much as iPhone.
I was defining "popular" as popular to that company. Does everyone now have to sell an individual phone at the same quantity as the iphone to be popular for that brand now?
Nokia make a fair bit of cash on their handsets despite having a single phone which sells at the same level as the only phone on offer from apple.
Honestly, I'll agree with Ltd that apple have the best selling single handset if it makes you happy but when it is your ONLY handset on offer, what other way can it go?
I'm not so sure the consumer doesn't care. As for "it'll go unnoticed", I'm already reading about it in the mainstream media, and boy, you should read the reader comments on those articles.
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I was quite shocked to see the news on the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8530124.stm
The even spoke to the Aussie developers of Wobble on BBC radio! (Apologies people, BBC uses Flash for video/audio)
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I'm not so sure the consumer doesn't care. As for "it'll go unnoticed", I'm already reading about it in the mainstream media, and boy, you should read the reader comments on those articles.
I was quite shocked to see the news on the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8530124.stm
The even spoke to the Aussie developers of Wobble on BBC radio! (Apologies people, BBC uses Flash for video/audio)
So Apple is 14% of a market that is 14% of the total market, which constitutes a small portion of the total internet users.
THIS is how Apple will leverage themselves to kill Flash?
THIS is how Apple will leverage themselves to kill Flash?
Apple's greedy, unethical and delusional. That's enough to let them truck on.
Flash has 75% of the Internet yet Apple thinks they can kill it just because it's a proprietary they don't own. But they think "we think we can, we think we can, we think we can" and it's all fine and dandy.
Meanwhile, the Apple Apps Store is a mammoth gluttonous monster and when the Android Apps Store say "we think we can", they get laughed at.
Quite the double standard by the fanboys.
I don't think anyone really believes they will. Just wishful thinking. Reality is that 90% of the market is using PC's and don't understand what the fuss is about because their browser handle Flash just fine.
If Flash disappears, it's because Adobe doesn't catch up. Real Player didn't disappear because Apple or Microsoft banned it from their devices. It disappeared because better alternatives entered our lives and Real Player didn't catch up. Html5 might be that alternative or it might not. Too early to tell. But I just wish Apple would stay out of this and let things run their course. Like Real Player.
Apple has never claimed that they are going to kill Flash.
You can minimize the impact of iPhone OS devices all you want, but it's a big enough group to cause a whole lot companies to develop iPhone specific apps and websites.
My brother Mark is my favorite brother. He's also my only brother.
I don't think you understood.
Done with the Apple spin
Now for a cold water dose of reality here.
You'll see that even Android has managed to get almost half of what Apple did and in only one year! Extraordinary!
Ah, but I'd never expect some fanboys here to give props where it's due.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...-biggest-winners-in-mobile-market-in-2009.ars
Now for a cold water dose of reality here.
You'll see that even Android has managed to get almost half of what Apple did and in only one year! Extraordinary!
Ah, but I'd never expect some fanboys here to give props where it's due.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...-biggest-winners-in-mobile-market-in-2009.ars
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I'm definitely sick of paying the high rates that go along with having a smart phone. When my contract runs out, I'll be going back to my old "dumb phone"
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I'm definitely sick of paying the high rates that go along with having a smart phone. When my contract runs out, I'll be going back to my old "dumb phone"
Even though you can now buy less expensive iPhone plan than ever before? I also don't like paying as much as I do, but I really would not want to lose the convenience.
iPhone ATT customers CAN cancel data plan.
Little-known factoid -- ATT users CAN CANCEL their data plan when they own an iPhone.
ATT requires iPhone purchasers to SIGN UP for the data plan, but you can cancel the next day.
So -- if you can live with WiFi -- or you want a smart-phone without wireless connectivity, you don't need to buy a data plan.
Little-known factoid -- ATT users CAN CANCEL their data plan when they own an iPhone.
ATT requires iPhone purchasers to SIGN UP for the data plan, but you can cancel the next day.
So -- if you can live with WiFi -- or you want a smart-phone without wireless connectivity, you don't need to buy a data plan.