That just shows how much you dont know about Nokias smartphone domination and innovation starting from the early 2000's. They have lost their mojo tho.
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Gartner: Nokia Held Off Apple in Smartphone Sales in 2Q 2011
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That just shows how much you dont know about Nokias smartphone domination and innovation starting from the early 2000's. They have lost their mojo tho.
While I live in the US, I've read that other countries base monthly fees by what phone you have and that the iPhone can cost more to use. While not the same as the Att exclusivity, it still is a reason to get an Android over an iPhone and along with all the huge phone discounts which are why Android is growing so fast. Normal people don't care
It would be very interesting to see this data broken down a bit further. WM split from WP7, iPhone 3GS/4, Android's various version numbers, etc.
So tired of this argument. Yes apples growth and stance in the industry is incredible.
BUT they also have carriers giving iphones away for free or for $49 dollars(3gs in the US) so that arguement doesnt fly.
Androids top teir phones are in some cases the same $199 price, or slightly more(thunderbolt). Androids best sellers just happen to be "highend android" Droid series, Incredible series etc.
I too find this interesting. Look at the drop off for RIM and the huge leap by Android. iOS is right were it should be, as evidenced by Apple's financials. It's really an impressive figure when you think about the fact that Apple produces 2 phones at any given time, and Android is licensed to several manufacturers and dozens of phones.
You answered my question, before I even asked. I have never seen a Nokia smartphone here in the US.
I am waiting for an decient and inexpensive non Android smart phone to use on Virgin Mobile or T mobile prepay.
True for smartphones. Here is the manufacturer breakdown for ALL phones:
The news there is that ZTE has passed Blackberry and is heading for Apple's levels. This could indicate a pent up demand for less expensive devices, which Apple is supposedly thinking of addressing.
The drop in comparison with 2010 is reportedly due to corporations stopping their acquisition of older Windows Mobile devices, not because of a drop in WP7 sales.
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How much more low-end do you have to go... you can get an iPhone 3GS for $49.99.
Once Apple raised the bar for smart phones, Symbian has been more or less relegated to feature-phone OS status. Looking back on my pre-iPhone Nokia Symbian OS phones, I'd be hard pressed to label any of them "smart".
To see Microsoft shut out of the next generation of computing after wrecking the last one? Nothing sad about that at all.
Windows 7 phone? I did not know that Microsoft was still around. I think it is kind of funny that they are trying to make a phone. Are they also in the OS market or have they dropped out of that?
I agree, why would Apple go out and spend a bunch of time and money developing a "low-end iphone" when they can just continue to manufacturer the last-gen product at high margins, run the same version of IOS and focus all of their on resources developing the next-gen product.
In lieu of credible and interesting rumors about innovative new products, it seems that we're stuck these "low-end iphone", "apple-branded television" and "Apple's netflix competitor" product rumors that make you think John Sculley has returned as CEO of Apple.
I agree, and that momentum is building up. I don't think cutting down on features will be such a big deal for those markets as the few who end up getting an iPhone either pay rediculous money for features they will never use, or buy a used older generation iPhone
WITH CONTRACT, PHONE LOCKED FOR AT&T.
We are talking about an affordable out of contract, unlocked Phone. No one in 'emerging markets' buys a locked phone.
Funny . . . until you find out WHY Nokia is ahead (did you read the article?)
Then "funny" turns into sad or amused, depending on your perspective.
There's nothing impressive about throwing the pots and pans overboard so the ship sinks a little slower. We're talking about Nokia here. There really is no other way they could get ahead.
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Did you just have this response pre-planned from the thread title? It doesn't appear that you even read the thread. Who condemned the report or poked holes in it? (Unless you are counting the one newbie that pointed out a conflict of interest between Gartner and Microsoft.)
GO Android.. Proud Nexus S user 
lol.. anyway, to get back on point, as a ex Blackberry fanatic.. I still wouldn't put RIM out of the game yet.. lets see what they do when they finally put QNX on their smartphones.. whenever that will be
lol.. anyway, to get back on point, as a ex Blackberry fanatic.. I still wouldn't put RIM out of the game yet.. lets see what they do when they finally put QNX on their smartphones.. whenever that will be
The entire world buys Nokia phones except US.
Oh God, this apple fanboyism is pathetic. Nokia held Apple off, why are you so butthurt? Who cares who held off who, competition is always good and it's clear that Nokia still holds their feet.
Wow. He is from the UK. He didn't claim to be upset. He didn't say anything about Apple. He just said he doesn't know anybody with a Nokia phone (and acknowledge his miniscule sample size). How is that Apple fanboyism?
That changed quite precipitously on Feb 11th when they announced the switch from Symbian and MeeGo to Windows and bungled the transition period.
People stopped buying Symbian phones.
Carriers stopped buying Symbian phones.
Carriers also stopped buying Nokia's S40 feature phones too even.
Demand plummeted.
Carriers were sat on stockpiles of phones people didn't want that a day earlier were selling relatively well. That's why Gartner is predicting the next quarter results will be a bloodbath.
The problem for Nokia is that as is evident by the Microsoft showing, very few people want WP7 phones too. They've killed off Symbian too early, delayed updates to the OS that would have made it more competitive (Symbian Anna and Belle are good improvements) and now they'll probably not have Windows Mango phones out till October.
Then they release the N9 running Meego Harmattan, which is a great phone with great software and a UI that makes the iPhone and WP7 look like Windows 3.0, BUT the dingbats won't release it in any market where it'll compete with their Windows Phone products - so not in the USA or UK for instance. If you're Bulgarian, you can have one though. They wouldn't want a Meego outselling Windows would they? Oh no.
They've announced a couple of mid-range 150 Symbian Anna phones which are ok-ish. 1Ghz CPU for instance - exactly what Apple can't compete with as they've no phone that cheap but it's too late. They've pissed on their chips already.
One can only hope Nokia's current strategy (ha!) is a bluff. Take the 1 billion from Microsoft to become their primary smartphone OS while in their skunkworks labs they're improving on their N9 software, buffing up Qt (which now has an iOS port officially) and getting ready for the next round.
We keep hearing this, but it clearly isn't helping them.
When you look at what's actually happening, they very much aren't.
Nokia held off Apple by dumping whatever they had in the channel for peanuts, thus posting gains in share that are actually artificial, given the circumstances.
When you look at HOW Nokia was able to hold off Apple, the story is actually another sobering reminder of their circumstances.
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