I never heard anybody state that they had a monopoly on cellular phones. Which is what this data is showing.
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I never heard anybody state that they had a monopoly on cellular phones. Which is what this data is showing.
Take your argument to the threads on the appropriate subject.
Nokia increased their unit sales by 35%, increased their unit sales by more than anyone else and are bigger than the next three smartphone companies COMBINED.
They're obviously DOOMED.
They're obviously DOOMED.
Okay, first why the fanboy rant?
Second, while Nokia is the leader in sales (and will be for a looooong time to come thanks to its almost total domination in the low to mid range market) it hasn't been the driving force behind the direction of the cellphone industry since... oh, early 2000's? It's always made solid handsets but, sorry, Symbian in its current form is an outdated dinosaur that's only really making sales in the cheaper end of the smartphone market. Nokia's attempts at doing high end have been getting progressively worse since the N95 and they're currently engaged in the mother of all battles to turn that around and appeal to consumers in that high end / high profit space again.
There can surely be no argument whatsoever that Apple has led the way these last few years. Ever since they came into the market everyone else has been racing to catchup not on hardware but software (and, thank god, because the state of phone software before then was getting dire). I'd say Android was just about there now, although there's still a lot of issues with fragmentation and hardware specs to sort out. webOS made a good start but desperately needs another major push. WP7 is an unknown but at least it's a brave jump forward from WM6.5 which was just terrible. And Symbian is in danger of becoming a feature phone OS if something drastic doesn't happen soon.
The next, what, two to three years will see just how well Apple can position themselves in that high-end space they crave and whether they can keep people on-board with iPhone when compared to cheaper offerings running Google and WP7 in particular. It's going to be a very interesting period indeed and Apple are going to have to come up with something special on the software side (which, after all, is what really sets phones apart these days) to do that. Something like iTunes in the cloud, for example, would be a killer feature that no-one else would be able to come close to and they're obviously getting ready for another big gaming push with OS 4.
As I said interesting times.
Umm, I don't have anything to base this on but I think you're going to see Android overtake iPhone OS within 12 months. Why? Simple, Android is starting to dominate the lower-end smartphone market. We're starting to see Android handsets at prices I'd normally consider to be Feature Phones. Hell the HTC Desire (aka Nexus One with a couple of niggles fixed) was available in the UK on a £15 a month tariff for about £120 up-front cost on the handset.
Thing is, Apple won't care much because that's just not a market they're interested in. If they can get a device out there to compete then great but they won't do so unless they can make a decent profit margin and, really, they don't need to. This is something a lot of people seem to miss about Apple in general (certainly in the PC marketplace) - they don't care about volume, they care about profits. They've proven they can pretty much dominate the top end of the smartphone market and I'm sure they'll be happy to stay there as everyone else races for the bottom in the pursuit of volume.
Nokia increased their unit sales by 35%, increased their unit sales by more than anyone else and are bigger than the next three smartphone companies COMBINED.
They're obviously DOOMED.
Anyone saying Nokia is doomed is an idiot of the highest order. On the other hand there's certainly a case to be made that unless they get their act together right now in the smartphone sector they're going to end up dominating the low end and feature phone market with virtually no presence at all in the higher end market. Just look at the N97 for proof of how quickly things can change...
Apple is selling expensive phones, not innovation.
I wonder where this is going... But I can just look at the statistics.
*LTD* hasn't been up for days. These are not entirely glorious days for Apple Inc.
It's very bad and implies Apple will soon exit the cell phone market.
Hey Apple still has Sherlock--oh wait
iPhone is primarily popular in western countries, and it's relatively expensive to buy elsewhere which is why it could sell more if it wanted.
Nokia, motorola and RIM spit out millions of phones an hour to sell to the masses for a few cents... they sell what they pay for... and even though they sell many they get a lot less margin that Apple do.
Nokia, motorola and RIM spit out millions of phones an hour to sell to the masses for a few cents... they sell what they pay for... and even though they sell many they get a lot less margin that Apple do.
Apple deserves thanks from all smartphone makers
The iPhone made a whole new smartphone market segment for visually oriented computer phones. Sure there were Blackberrys, Treos and Windows phones that served (and serve) the enterprise market well. But Apple "consumerized" the technology and set the standard for others to copy. They drove the current explosion in smartphone sales, and deserve the gratitude of all smartphone makers. They have my (albeit insignificant) compliments and gratitude.
I suspect that Apple will be, as others have suggested, the BMW to Android's Ford. But I also think that, at least in the US, Android will pass them pretty quickly in terms of unit sales volume. The numbers show that last year's Android phones, like the Motorola Droid and its less powerful cousins, have cut the iPhone's lead substantially. And those 2009 Android phones have some significant deficiencies vs. the iPhone in terms of speed and usability...along with fragmented OS versions. The Android generation that is currently being introduced are much better positioned with better screens, much faster processors, better cameras, and all having at least v2.1. The Evo specs, in many ways, surpass the rumors for the upcoming iPhone release. The HTC Incredible has been on backorder for at least 3 weeks online (Verizon, Amazon and more), via Verizon phone orders, and in Verizon stores (at least those within 500 miles of NYC). Neither of these new phones were part of the NPD report saying that Android had passed iPhone sales in the US. I suspect that Q2 will be monster for Android.
The Android phones won't have the visual grace of the iPhone. And soon enough we're going to hear of bigtime malware reports on Android. But competition among Android phones will, I believe, lead to substantially greater market share (but lower profitability) than iPhone. Much like in the computer market. And better, cheaper phones for all of us.
So thanks again, Apple.
The iPhone made a whole new smartphone market segment for visually oriented computer phones. Sure there were Blackberrys, Treos and Windows phones that served (and serve) the enterprise market well. But Apple "consumerized" the technology and set the standard for others to copy. They drove the current explosion in smartphone sales, and deserve the gratitude of all smartphone makers. They have my (albeit insignificant) compliments and gratitude.
I suspect that Apple will be, as others have suggested, the BMW to Android's Ford. But I also think that, at least in the US, Android will pass them pretty quickly in terms of unit sales volume. The numbers show that last year's Android phones, like the Motorola Droid and its less powerful cousins, have cut the iPhone's lead substantially. And those 2009 Android phones have some significant deficiencies vs. the iPhone in terms of speed and usability...along with fragmented OS versions. The Android generation that is currently being introduced are much better positioned with better screens, much faster processors, better cameras, and all having at least v2.1. The Evo specs, in many ways, surpass the rumors for the upcoming iPhone release. The HTC Incredible has been on backorder for at least 3 weeks online (Verizon, Amazon and more), via Verizon phone orders, and in Verizon stores (at least those within 500 miles of NYC). Neither of these new phones were part of the NPD report saying that Android had passed iPhone sales in the US. I suspect that Q2 will be monster for Android.
The Android phones won't have the visual grace of the iPhone. And soon enough we're going to hear of bigtime malware reports on Android. But competition among Android phones will, I believe, lead to substantially greater market share (but lower profitability) than iPhone. Much like in the computer market. And better, cheaper phones for all of us.
So thanks again, Apple.
Expensive ? Ain't nothing expensive about the iPhone. It's mid-range if anything. Blackberry, HTC, Sony Ericsson, Nokia all ship phones that are as expensive as Apple. The iPhone is in the same price range as other smartphones.
This shows what some of us have known for quite some time (and confirm each time worldwide market share numbers come out). The iPhone isn't anything special.
If the iPhone is a BMW, Android is a Mercedes. There's nothing special or higher-end about iPhone.
Heck, Android were first with Copy/Paste, Tethering (which existed before Android had it) and AR APIs.
They were the first in multhaitasking aswell, but iPhone's implementation is just so much more elegant in both copy/paste text selection, magnifying glass, the multhaitasking as well.
Beautiful, it's magical really.
Really ? There's nothing special about iPhone's multi-tasking or even their copy paste. Heck, I never managed to copy/paste anything with any measure of success on iPhone OS.
You have to look beyond what Steve says and realise that in the real world, ain't nothing special about iPhone OS.
That is why there is the transition to Symbian^4, which:
* brings vastly improved UI
* easier development - QT framework with multi-platform development tools ( and you can currently code in a variety of languages, i.e., C++, Python etc - no restrictions, unlike some others ).
Those are the two really weak items of Symbian. The rest of Symbian is great - power management is efficient, as is multi-tasking. Unlike other OSes, Symbian is capable of running on lower speed processors, but yet, perform the same tasks as OSes running on faster processors.
my guess is that Android OS will overtake both RIM and Apple OS.
When I look at the growth the "Others" category is significant. This category is both large in sales and it is also growing significantly.
As OS become more complex and work their way into lower end phones, I believe the "Others" will be challenged build or up keep costly complex OS's of their own. (that is, I'm speculating that more and more lower end phones will become "smarter")
I believe many of these players will move to Android.
When I look at the growth the "Others" category is significant. This category is both large in sales and it is also growing significantly.
As OS become more complex and work their way into lower end phones, I believe the "Others" will be challenged build or up keep costly complex OS's of their own. (that is, I'm speculating that more and more lower end phones will become "smarter")
I believe many of these players will move to Android.
He was talking about growth. Last year's Android market share was 1.6%. How is 9.6% a year later not amazing?
What is mazing about that knowing that gazillion of phones meet the market everyday?
3,938.8 vs 3,848.1 ?
Can somebody explain why Apple made different numbers in the very same quarter? As far as I know the iPhone is a smart-phone-only?
Of all phones made in that quarter Apple made 3,938.8 phones
Of all smart-phones in that quarter Apple made 3,848.1 phones
For sure they make some other phones we missed out, but are selling great somewhere on the planet!
Can somebody explain why Apple made different numbers in the very same quarter? As far as I know the iPhone is a smart-phone-only?
Of all phones made in that quarter Apple made 3,938.8 phones
Of all smart-phones in that quarter Apple made 3,848.1 phones
For sure they make some other phones we missed out, but are selling great somewhere on the planet!