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[Chip NoVaMac]

My hair started falling out when I was 19. I panicked liked crazy because I was theater student- who would want to cast me? Well, a few years later I just got rid of it, and I liked it BETTER. So of course, I thought that it would mostly fall out and I'd have less shaving to do as time went on. Guess what? It stopped falling out. I still have to shave just as much of my head now as I did when I was 27! I just can't win.

Nothing like a freshly shaved head when having "fun".

 

[Grey Beard]

The Shaven Image

I saw your shaved head picture. IMO it takes a special person to shave ones head. I should know I am one of them.

Why thank you Chip, Now's there at least three of us Kojak want to be's. We should pull together for a Shaven Image aspect to the thread.

And as an aside: Is pulling oneself together, the same a mutual masturbation? He he he.
Grey Beard

 

[leekohler]

Nothing like a freshly shaved head when having "fun".

It does come in handy from time to time.

 

[leekohler]

Why thank you Chip, Now's there at least three of us Kojak want to be's. We should pull together for a Shaven Image aspect to the thread.
Grey Beard

Good idea! You boys start it. I'm off to bed. Must get my beauty rest.

 

[Grey Beard]

The Shaven Image

Good idea! You boys start it. I'm off to bed. Must get my beauty rest.

Oh, Oh, but Lee, I'm so shy and timid I couldn't start a fire, oh dear oh dear. Oh well I'm sure there's a chip off the old block somewhere.
Grey Beard

 

[neildmitchell]

I am jesus christ!

I ran out of skin lotion, so I picked up some Jojoba oil instead. I have dry skin.
It occured to me, Im annointing myself with oil, I guess that makes me Jesus Christ!

( I am NOT religious, but there was something about Jesus and oil, right?)

 

[Grey Beard]

Whoa Dude

I ran out of skin lotion, so I picked up some Jojoba oil instead. I have dry skin.
It occured to me, Im annointing myself with oil, I guess that makes me Jesus Christ!

( I am NOT religious, but there was something about Jesus and oil, right?)

As an ox goeth to the slaughter

or perhaps;

Answer a fool according to his folly

Well, like Paul and the jock strap, I'm off to make some pita bread before I land in the sh*t too. For fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Alexander Pope Ahh, what the hell, I'm having fun, so supper can wait a bit.

I am one of the first to support the right to opinions, and if that the tinged with humour then I'm all for it. Like you Neil, I follow not fixed or doctrinal religion, but parts of Buddhism, Judaism and Shinto. A nice cocktail when it's taken with a large slice of life and a seasoning of reason. Perhaps you may have put your foot in it, as it seems today that the religious fervour is high.
But I'll support your right to put your foot where you may. I've certainly had mine in my mouth a few times and I don't even have a foot fetish that I know of.

Now, y'all be kind to Neil ya'hear.
Grey Beard

 

[faustofernos]

Aww shuks

Mr. daveway! Send us your pic. or at least of one with the Feast of Fools show playing on your iPod. I'd personally love to see it!

Fausto!!! I'm a big fan of you and Madge.

 

[faustofernos]

PNS Explosion you mean...

Those boys are a delight! they recently came over for a couple of Hurricane Katrina inspired cocktails (don't worry we raised some money for the Red Cross out of it. One word: PAY PAL)

You can listen to the podcast where we talked not just to Patrick and Noah, but their very cute, sexy and smart producer Scott by CLICKING HERE

Speaking of cool podcasts out of Chicago, you guys need to check out The Patrick and Noah show. You'll giggle your butts off.

www.patrickandnoah.com

 

[wongulous]

My hair started falling out when I was 19. I panicked liked crazy because I was theater student- who would want to cast me? Well, a few years later I just got rid of it, and I liked it BETTER. So of course, I thought that it would mostly fall out and I'd have less shaving to do as time went on. Guess what? It stopped falling out. I still have to shave just as much of my head now as I did when I was 27! I just can't win.

My hair is falling out too. I have a receding hairline and friends have told me as early as 1-2 years ago that they can see it thinning on top. I'm not 21 for another 6 months! I'll be balding during my gaybar-hopping college years! It sucks, but I don't care. I'll gladly shave my head. I have a few times and it did look pretty haute, actually. But it looks best on guys that are tan (or of color) and in athletic shape, so.. that's just another motivator to get to the gym so I can really rock the q-ball. Haha.

Anyway, bald power!!

 

[scem0]

If you have a head that will support a shaven head then shave your head, I say. It's increadibly sexy in my opinion.

Unfortunately my head won't support such a 'hair-style' (ironic, eh?), I fell down a flight of stairs and hit my head on concrete as a young boy. I have a permanent bump on the back of my noggin which would look quite odd with a shaven head.

But I find them to be very attractive, I always have. My friends always joke with me by pointing out guys and saying "so, do you find him attractive? Wait, he has hair, nevermind." . I find guys with hair attractive too, just not as attractive .

_Emerson

 

[scem0]

Absolutely nothing. I just enjoy following this thread — nice vibes, nice people.

You should post more, we see too many of the same faces (I don't mean that in a literal sense, don't chance your avatar Lee ).

My hair started falling out when I was 19. I panicked liked crazy because I was theater student- who would want to cast me? Well, a few years later I just got rid of it, and I liked it BETTER. So of course, I thought that it would mostly fall out and I'd have less shaving to do as time went on. Guess what? It stopped falling out. I still have to shave just as much of my head now as I did when I was 27! I just can't win.

You already won, keep shaving your head . And I'm officially casting you in "THE ADVENTURES OF EMERSON IN NYC", so I guess you can say that you've been 'cast' .

That reminds me, I have a new Chapter to add:

THE ADVENTURES OF EMERSON IN NYC
Chapter 7

I went to Splash again on Thursday. But that's a given, Splash is my Thursday night club. I got there at 11:59 to avoid the cover, but to miss the extremely dumb contest in which icky college boys compete to earn $200. By coming at 11:59 I allowed myself to go straight to the dance floor.

I've gotten a lot of confidence since moving to NYC. If I want to dance with a guy, I go dance near him, inch closer, and I almost end up dancing with him 99% of the time. Splash annoys me though, the guys are either too young (~23 and younger) or too old (~40+) for my tastes, for the most part. I only found one guy on the dance floor that I was attracted to, he was really short (which I find to be adorable, even though I prefer guys to be big, 6'+ guys are hot) - like 5'5". But he was dancing with another guy, so I just went over to that general area. I ended up dancing with his friend, who was good looking, but very young. He was a good dancer, Hispanic, and he sang along to "La Tortura" (Shakira), which was really cool.

I did a lot of 'train' dancing tonight. Where 3-5 guys dance in one big line. I don't really like doing that as much as dancing with one guy, but it was still fun. So all of us ended up in a line. I was getting bored with them though, the whole line thing just wasn't appealing to me anymore. Oh, and I should say that one of the guys in the line kept grabbing my hands and running them over his pubic region. He was... excited to be dancing. I did not want to give him the impression that I wanted to rub his schlong, so I left that group of dancing fools.

So I went to another section of the dance floor and started dancing alone. I was eyeing a cute guy in a black t-shirt, hoping that he'd inch over to me while we danced, but a creepy older guy behind me started dancing with me. I didn't even realize that he was behind me until he was on top of me. He was not one of the older guys who takes care of their physical appearance, and he wasn't very polite about touching me. I won't pretty it up - he shoved his hands in my pants and grabbed my penis. I did not appreciate this, so I grabbed his wrists and moved his hands out of my pants. He moved them back in. We played this 'game' for a minute or two. I saw the guy who I had been eyeing (the one in the black shirt) watching me, slightly amused. He ended up coming and getting in front of me and dancing with us (damnit, another train dancing thing ). But then that guy left, and something really odd happened. A young guy who appeared to be my age came up to me and said "you are cute, but not as cute as me", and I just said "okay....", and he kept talking to me, talking about how he usually doesn't dance. I took him by the shoulders, and put him in front of the creepy old guy, and escaped as he was saying "where are you putting me?". They were both creepy, I'm sure they liked each other.

So, I was once again alone, dancing. However, by dancing with the one creepy guy, I think that was the green light for all the creepy guys in the club, because they were flocking to me, and not in a pleasant way. I decided that I'd go downstairs, sit down and take a rest, and see if 5 minutes would get me anywhere. It worked! When I went back upstairs, none of the guys were approaching me. I made a quick circle around the dance floor, scouting out a good place to dance/a good guy to dance with. A cute guy smiled at me, I smiled back, and we ended up dancing (if only it worked that way on the street ). He was a pretty good dancer, I had a lot of fun. He asked me if he could buy me a drink, and he bought me a water . I am incredibly appreciative when guys buy me drinks in clubs, it is such a nice thing to do, and I get very thirsty when I'm in clubs. We talk a little while. I get his name, he gets mine, I learn that he is in NYC for just a little while, as a vacation. We dance some more. Here the dancing goes from standard to a more close, sensual style. But it was very innocent. We dance floor cuddled (like I did with the guy from Splash last week). I was enjoying myself, and then he asked me if I wanted to go back to his hotel , and I said "how about you walk me back to my dorm instead". He agreed.

So, we exit the club, and we talk as we walk back to my dorm which is a mere two blocks away. He was really nice, and he had an adorable lisp. Not the stereotypical 'gay lisp', but a genuine "I can't say s's lisp" which turned me off, but I thought it was adorable. He was pretty shy, and believe it or not, so am I (off the dancefloor, at least). So, our two block conversation was chock full of awkward silences and general awkwardness. I really didn't feel a mental connection with him. We couldn't find anything to talk about. But he seemed very nice and I enjoyed dancing with him, so I got his number and told him that I would call him on Sunday and that we'd go dancing again (Sunday nights are Avalon nights - exciting).

I kind of regret doing that though, because I know that Sunday night will be full of awkward moments. I don't want a relationship with him. I'm going to be very picky about my first romantic relationship, I want to do it right. So I'm afraid that I'm leading him in the wrong direction by inviting him to go dancing with me at Avalon. I don't think he was that wild about me, either, though, so I think all I'll have to do is dance with another guy at Avalon when we get there to send him the message of "I just want to be buddies". It's still going to be awkward.

But only time will tell how are second meeting turns out, so I guess that will be Chapter 8. Probably not, actually. I'll be going out on Saturday night, so I'll probably have a story for that too.

_Emerson

 

[iGary]

You should post more, we see too many of the same faces (I don't mean that in a literal sense, don't chance your avatar Lee ).



You already won, keep shaving your head . And I'm officially casting you in "THE ADVENTURES OF EMERSON IN NYC", so I guess you can say that you've been 'cast' .

That reminds me, I have a new Chapter to add:

THE ADVENTURES OF EMERSON IN NYC
Chapter 7

I went to Splash again on Thursday. But that's a given, Splash is my Thursday night club. I got there at 11:59 to avoid the cover, but to miss the extremely dumb contest in which icky college boys compete to earn $200. By coming at 11:59 I allowed myself to go straight to the dance floor.

I've gotten a lot of confidence since moving to NYC. If I want to dance with a guy, I go dance near him, inch closer, and I almost end up dancing with him 99% of the time. Splash annoys me though, the guys are either too young (~23 and younger) or too old (~40+) for my tastes, for the most part. I only found one guy on the dance floor that I was attracted to, he was really short (which I find to be adorable, even though I prefer guys to be big, 6'+ guys are hot) - like 5'5". But he was dancing with another guy, so I just went over to that general area. I ended up dancing with his friend, who was good looking, but very young. He was a good dancer, Hispanic, and he sang along to "La Tortura" (Shakira), which was really cool.

I did a lot of 'train' dancing tonight. Where 3-5 guys dance in one big line. I don't really like doing that as much as dancing with one guy, but it was still fun. So all of us ended up in a line. I was getting bored with them though, the whole line thing just wasn't appealing to me anymore. Oh, and I should say that one of the guys in the line kept grabbing my hands and running them over his pubic region. He was... excited to be dancing. I did not want to give him the impression that I wanted to rub his schlong, so I left that group of dancing fools.

So I went to another section of the dance floor and started dancing alone. I was eyeing a cute guy in a black t-shirt, hoping that he'd inch over to me while we danced, but a creepy older guy behind me started dancing with me. I didn't even realize that he was behind me until he was on top of me. He was not one of the older guys who takes care of their physical appearance, and he wasn't very polite about touching me. I won't pretty it up - he shoved his hands in my pants and grabbed my penis. I did not appreciate this, so I grabbed his wrists and moved his hands out of my pants. He moved them back in. We played this 'game' for a minute or two. I saw the guy who I had been eyeing (the one in the black shirt) watching me, slightly amused. He ended up coming and getting in front of me and dancing with us (damnit, another train dancing thing ). But then that guy left, and something really odd happened. A young guy who appeared to be my age came up to me and said "you are cute, but not as cute as me", and I just said "okay....", and he kept talking to me, talking about how he usually doesn't dance. I took him by the shoulders, and put him in front of the creepy old guy, and escaped as he was saying "where are you putting me?". They were both creepy, I'm sure they liked each other.

So, I was once again alone, dancing. However, by dancing with the one creepy guy, I think that was the green light for all the creepy guys in the club, because they were flocking to me, and not in a pleasant way. I decided that I'd go downstairs, sit down and take a rest, and see if 5 minutes would get me anywhere. It worked! When I went back upstairs, none of the guys were approaching me. I made a quick circle around the dance floor, scouting out a good place to dance/a good guy to dance with. A cute guy smiled at me, I smiled back, and we ended up dancing (if only it worked that way on the street ). He was a pretty good dancer, I had a lot of fun. He asked me if he could buy me a drink, and he bought me a water . I am incredibly appreciative when guys buy me drinks in clubs, it is such a nice thing to do, and I get very thirsty when I'm in clubs. We talk a little while. I get his name, he gets mine, I learn that he is in NYC for just a little while, as a vacation. We dance some more. Here the dancing goes from standard to a more close, sensual style. But it was very innocent. We dance floor cuddled (like I did with the guy from Splash last week). I was enjoying myself, and then he asked me if I wanted to go back to his hotel , and I said "how about you walk me back to my dorm instead". He agreed.

So, we exit the club, and we talk as we walk back to my dorm which is a mere two blocks away. He was really nice, and he had an adorable lisp. Not the stereotypical 'gay lisp', but a genuine "I can't say s's lisp" which turned me off, but I thought it was adorable. He was pretty shy, and believe it or not, so am I (off the dancefloor, at least). So, our two block conversation was chock full of awkward silences and general awkwardness. I really didn't feel a mental connection with him. We couldn't find anything to talk about. But he seemed very nice and I enjoyed dancing with him, so I got his number and told him that I would call him on Sunday and that we'd go dancing again (Sunday nights are Avalon nights - exciting).

I kind of regret doing that though, because I know that Sunday night will be full of awkward moments. I don't want a relationship with him. I'm going to be very picky about my first romantic relationship, I want to do it right. So I'm afraid that I'm leading him in the wrong direction by inviting him to go dancing with me at Avalon. I don't think he was that wild about me, either, though, so I think all I'll have to do is dance with another guy at Avalon when we get there to send him the message of "I just want to be buddies". It's still going to be awkward.

But only time will tell how are second meeting turns out, so I guess that will be Chapter 8. Probably not, actually. I'll be going out on Saturday night, so I'll probably have a story for that too.

_Emerson

This makes me excited for the old days and damned glad I am "married" all at the same time.

Enjoy this, Em...you'll never forget it.

 

[scem0]

I'm definitely enjoying myself, but I'm still envious of the "married" gay men... That's what I truly want.

I also want to not have to put "married" in quotes 10 years from now .

_Emerson

 

[iGary]

I'm definitely enjoying myself, but I'm still envious of the "married" gay men... That's what I truly want.

I also want to not have to put "married" in quotes 10 years from now .

_Emerson

Like anything, it has it's ups and downs...I really do look upon the days where I was going out in DC, living in what I affectionately called "the gayborhood" and being able to be as free as I wanted to be...good times. But I am lucky. I was very stupid and careless. I was hornier than a three-peckered billy goat with an affinity for Ecstacy.

I miss that period of accepting who I am and revelling in it! Now, the excitement of being gay is gone - it is just a part of who I am. People often ask me -boy, Gary, we would have never guessed you are gay. I always asked them - how would you have guessed anyway?

I love my life now, but boy this takes me back to some good times!

Now, a good time is drinking a bunch of wine on the couch with dinner and a movie, having sex and going to bed.

 

[gekko513]

Great episode scem0.

It's nice to read stories from y'all , but may I ask what you two, iGary and scem0 are doing awake this early on a Saturday?

 

[iGary]

Great episode scem0.

It's nice to read stories from y'all , but may I ask what you two, iGary and scem0 are doing awake this early on a Saturday?

Working. I have to get a package of images from your part of the world out FedEx this afternoon.

Scemo has an odd sleep schedule.

 

[scem0]

Like anything, it has it's ups and downs...I really do look upon the days where I was going out in DC, living in what I affectionately called "the gayborhood" and being able to be as free as I wanted to be...good times. But I am lucky. I was very stupid and careless. I was hornier than a three-peckered billy goat with an affinity for Ecstacy.

Luckily for me, I'm not hornier than a three-peckered billy goat and I'm not going near any Ecstacy. I'm glad to see that you made it through that time period though .

I miss that period of accepting who I am and revelling in it! Now, the excitement of being gay is gone - it is just a part of who I am. People often ask me -boy, Gary, we would have never guessed you are gay. I always asked them - how would you have guessed anyway?

A good response, I should say. The excitement of being gay is definitely alive and kicking in me... . I've only been out of the closet for 3.5 months... I've never had a chance to explore my sexuality because I've been in the closet and I didn't want to have a secret boyfriend. As I said earlier, I want to do it right the first time. I mean that regarding sex and a relationship.

I don't know if anyone recalls the scary Brazilian guy from Avalon who took my wallet and hat, but what if I had kissed him to get my stuff back. What if I had ended up having sex with him. What if I started a relationship with us having sex being the first thing we do? That's not how I want to remember my life 20 years down the road...

I miss that period of accepting who I am and revelling in it! Now, the excitement of being gay is gone - it is just a part of who I am.

That's how I've always viewed my sexuality - it's part of who I am. It isn't what determines who I am. So, although being gay is exciting and new to me, I still have the mentality of being an individual who creates their own life, and who doesn't let stereotypes determine where I go and what I do.

I love my life now, but boy this takes me back to some good times!

Now, a good time is drinking a bunch of wine on the couch with dinner and a movie, having sex and going to bed.

You see, to me both nights sound amazing! A night of dancing is great fun, but so is dinner and a movie at home, when you can cuddle with <insert sickeningly cute pet name for your S.O.>. So, ideally, I'd go dancing some nights with <insert future S.O. real name>, I'd stay at home some nights with <pet name for same person>, and who knows what else I'd do.


So, right now I lead a very exciting night life, but I don't think that will change all that much once I find mr. right. I want to do all the stereotypical 'boring' stuff too though .

_Emerson

 

[gekko513]

Working. I have to get a package of images from your part of the world out FedEx this afternoon.

Scemo has an odd sleep schedule.

I'm just curious, what do you have to do with the images in the meantime? These are physical images, right?

 

[scem0]

Great episode scem0.

Thanks .

It's nice to read stories from y'all , but may I ask what you two, iGary and scem0 are doing awake this early on a Saturday?

Scemo has an odd sleep schedule.

Hit the nail on the head . I was up from like 5PM on Thursday till 6PM yesterday. That's 25 hours . So I was dead tired, and I slept for 12 hours. Got up at 6 this morning.

But I'm going to try to get my schedule back on track this weekend.

_Emerson

 

[iGary]

I'm just curious, what do you have to do with the images in the meantime? These are physical images, right?

No, they all come in on DVD's - all digital.

I color correct, straighten, edit for geographical accuracy and naming nomenclatures, catalogue in Extensis Portfolio, check for mandatory waypoints to capture and then batch out in Photoshop and burn to DVD - then off to the client.

I do about 600-1,000 images a day. People think I want a 30-inch ACD because I am spoiled - nay, I'm going blind. Hopefully I sell a lens this weekend and my second 20-inch ACD next week and on the first of the month I'll get the monster. My life will be so much easier.

Working on Denmark in the Kattegat and Angelsholm area, currently, where the brilliant photographer decided they would set the exposure bias at -1.

Derrr.

 

[gekko513]

I wonder what a really conservative christian would think if he read _Emersons's adventures.

Would he focus on the slutty and horny parts, hands down pants, rubbing of schlong, kissing of ears, train dancing and so on, and with that feel that he can confirm the idea of gays being immoral and promiscuous.

Or would he have the insight to see that gay people are as different as other people. That young _Emerson has high moral standards despite being neither straight nor christian.

The reason why I wonder about this is that I got this idea about somehow distributing THE ADVENTURES OF EMERSON IN NYC to christians so that they could get an inside feel of what it can be like to be gay. The idea being that a lot of the negative attitutude towards other groups come from fear of the unknown, and this could make homosexuality thing less unknown to them. It's just a hypothetical idea and I like to play around with ideas.

 

[gekko513]

No, they all come in on DVD's - all digital.

I color correct, straighten, edit for geographical accuracy and naming nomenclatures, catalogue in Extensis Portfolio, check for mandatory waypoints to capture and then batch out in Photoshop and burn to DVD - then off to the client.

I do about 600-1,000 images a day. People think I want a 30-inch ACD because I am spoiled - nay, I'm going blind. Hopefully I sell a lens this weekend and my second 20-inch ACD next week and on the first of the month I'll get the monster. My life will be so much easier.

Working on Denmark in the Kattegat and Angelsholm area, currently, where the brilliant photographer decided they would set the exposure bias at -1.

Derrr.

600-1000 images a day?! That must mean less than three minutes per image. How do you do it so fast? Or can some images go through without much editing?

Kattegat in Denmark ... that's not far from Oslo, Norway where I am.

 

[iGary]

I wonder what a really conservative christian would think if he read _Emersons's adventures.

Would he focus on the slutty and horny parts, hands down pants, rubbing of schlong, kissing of ears, train dancing and so on, and with that feel that he can confirm the idea of gays being immoral and promiscuous.

Or would he have the insight to see that gay people are as different as other people. That young _Emerson has high moral standards despite being neither straight nor christian.

The reason why I wonder about this is that I got this idea about somehow distributing THE ADVENTURES OF EMERSON IN NYC to christians so that they could get an inside feel of what it can be like to be gay. The idea being that a lot of the negative attitutude towards other groups come from fear of the unknown, and this could make homosexuality thing less unknown to them. It's just a hypothetical idea and I like to play around with ideas.

You know why young, gay men (for that matter gay men all the same) are horny and sometimes promiscuous?

Because we're petrified to do anything until we come out of the closet and cannot display affection in public. Wonder why.

Rob and I have caught ourselves in Annapolis here a few times being a little too afefctionate. In DC that's fine (we'd walk all over town holding hands), but here in Annapolis? Nope.

 

[iGary]

600-1000 images a day?! That must mean less than three minutes per image. How do you do it so fast? Or can some images go through without much editing?

Kattegat in Denmark ... that's not far from Oslo, Norway where I am.

We had pilots in Norway up until this week in Varangerfjord. The weather closed in and they are now headed for Spain. Lucky bastards.

About two images a minute. They usually need a crop and a white point adjustment. The rest of it I batch out in Photoshop (contrast curve, sharpening and a levels adjustment). I started out at about 300 images a day two months ago. Keyboard shortcuts are your friend.

It's getting old, though, so I am hiring someone to take some of the load off because I'm working 7 days a week, 14 hours a day.

Rob found me on the couch last night with my Hawaiian shirt on and just threw a blanket on me. Must have laid down and just crashed.