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Geekbench Results Visualize Possible Link Between iPhone Slowdowns and Degraded Batteries
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So basically Apple just can't win!
Iphone users experience random shutdowns due to degraded batteries causing low voltage shutdowns... users complain.
Apple issue a fix to reduce load on CPU to prevent low-voltage shutdowns from happening on iPhones with degraded batteries... users still complain.
I would love to know what is,
Apple do [something-something-somethng]... everybody in the world rejoices!
Iphone users experience random shutdowns due to degraded batteries causing low voltage shutdowns... users complain.
Apple issue a fix to reduce load on CPU to prevent low-voltage shutdowns from happening on iPhones with degraded batteries... users still complain.
I would love to know what is,
Apple do [something-something-somethng]... everybody in the world rejoices!
Generalisations .... gold mate
keep em coming . You are doing a great job on this thread . Doubt any proof would ever exist that you would accept though. Keep up the good work .Doing my best to stay on top of it.Generalisations .... gold mate
My 6S is 13 month old and already Tests slower on Geekbench than my more than 2 year old 6. Yet there is no warning telling me about this.
Actually Apple is winning , cause thier batteries stay above 80% Health, this is what this is about .
Otherwise they are up for replacement, this is just greed and marketing, clever way to keep the 80% though .
Why would they want to innovate in this area? Replacing depleted batteries is a great source of revenue, not to mention most people just buy a whole new phone anyway.
Besides, improving battery technology is a really hard problem, and Apple doesn't like really hard problems...
This is incorrect. It does not demonstrate planned obsolescence -- it demonstrates Apple's attempt to cover up an engineering fault in their power delivery hardware.
In fact it's kind of funny, because it was just recently demonstrated that no previous iOS update has EVER slowed down a CPU. This is a new phenomenon, and it is about stopping battery-related CPU crashes, which would give users a valid reason to insist on a free battery replacement. The under-clocking removes Apple's warranty responsibility to replace these batteries.
The fact that it encourages upgrades is just a nice side-effect. But it is not the actual issue, and focusing on that aspect is just going to muddy the water and make it harder to get a resolution.
They'll straight up deny any actual problems exist. My mother uses my old iPhone 6 that was experiencing this exact same problem, when I brought it for a battery exchange (I was even willing to pay for it out of my own pocket as it was heavily used) the geniuses at Apple store just said "everything tested fine" and sent me home.
There's hogwash here and is not just with your battery issue:
MacRumors 12-11-2017 : Apple's Alleged Throttling of Older iPhones With Degraded Batteries Causes Controversy
Apple has been intentionally throttling phones performance for years with each iOS update.
This is nothing new. They finally got caught with their pants down with actual reported results of the CPU performance tests.
They do it so people dont keep the same device for too long in order to force their hand to upgrade every year or so.
Its clear planned obsolescence.
If the battery degrades or needs replacement I dont expect my iphone to run at 50% less CPU performance than when it was originally purchased.
Dont slow my device down without telling me. If I need a battery replacement tell me instead of turning my iPhone to a turtle.
There's no excuse for any of this. Its all shady and should be investigated in court.
This is nothing new. They finally got caught with their pants down with actual reported results of the CPU performance tests.
They do it so people dont keep the same device for too long in order to force their hand to upgrade every year or so.
Its clear planned obsolescence.
If the battery degrades or needs replacement I dont expect my iphone to run at 50% less CPU performance than when it was originally purchased.
Dont slow my device down without telling me. If I need a battery replacement tell me instead of turning my iPhone to a turtle.
There's no excuse for any of this. Its all shady and should be investigated in court.
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Hoping that all those that have been shutting down people who KNOW their phones are slowing as conspiracy theorists for years will apologise
I tolerated an iPhone 5 performance level iPhone 6 Plus for more than 9 months.
Give me back my wasted time because of your courage, Apple!
Give me back my wasted time because of your courage, Apple!
The problem is that Apple is attempting to avoid replacing the degraded batteries under warranty, not that they've created a software workaround for the crashing.
These batteries are still passing Apple's diagnostic tests. Any battery which is incapable of running the hardware as designed should be considered failed, and replaced if under warranty.
This is a new phenomenon, not related to anything that people have reported before iOS 11. No previous iOS update has ever reduced CPU speed.
How about this?
Tell EVERYONE that they can just replace their battery rather than buying an unapologetically expensive new iPhone.
Is that so hard for you to understand?
I mailed it back to Apple 3 months ago (complaining of battery issues) they mailed me back the same phone and said there was no issues with it.
That's what gets me going so bad! There is an issue (geekbenches show) but to Apple everything is peachy.
alot of users suffering from poor iOS 11 performance may have been enticed into getting a new phone when all they needed was a new battery
took a friend into the apple store yesterday and had them replace his battery. His 6s was running at 600 mHZ, New battery put in and went right to 1848 mHZ
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Wow really?
You didnt bother reading anything?
Yes, we should be really thanking Apple for their defective batteries and then putting out iOS updates that throttle our phones so they dont shut down because of their faulty batteries? This way they dont have to replace the bad batteries for free and we get to give up on our old iphones and keep buying the new one each year. We should just keep handing them our money and let them take advantage of us like that.
Poor Apple huh?
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Generalisations .... gold mate
Yes, keep up the great work trying to deny everything and obstruct the truth.
Apple might hire you as a PR manager or lawyer
You guys are too funny
There have always been complaints that a new OS degrades performance on older devices. Benchmarking tended to not bear that out but the experience of users was that a new OS on a 3-4 year old device was awful and would keep people from upgrading device/OS if it wasn't totally necessary.
What I'm wondering is has this power scheme always been how Apple handles performance on devices with degraded batteries or is it a new software fix implemented just to contain the 6s battery issue?
If it was to head off a massive recall then it's going to be a rough start of the year for Apple. How they respond to it will be crucial to maintaining loyalty from their customers and a lot of bad press. There could actually be a couple of good reasons for going in that direction but from a user perspective it's the deliberate crippling of a once great device and no one will believe it was for any other reason than "we want you to buy a new iPhone".
What I'm wondering is has this power scheme always been how Apple handles performance on devices with degraded batteries or is it a new software fix implemented just to contain the 6s battery issue?
If it was to head off a massive recall then it's going to be a rough start of the year for Apple. How they respond to it will be crucial to maintaining loyalty from their customers and a lot of bad press. There could actually be a couple of good reasons for going in that direction but from a user perspective it's the deliberate crippling of a once great device and no one will believe it was for any other reason than "we want you to buy a new iPhone".
well they are going to have to do something to keep the market for iphones up. smartphones will go the way of the desktop and laptop computer before long. iPhone is apples number 1 product and if they cant get people to upgrade as often as they do, who knows what will happen.
To be technical, iOS 10.2.1 did (for the 6s, at least).
Yes, I personally did, within a day of finding out about this problem, more than 30 geekbench tests, both with version 3 and 4. Rebooting and letting the phone cool down, at 20% battery or fully charged at 100%. I took notes, made graphs and everytime the results were the same. The CPU was working at 1.8ghz, 1.5, 1.2, and finally below 30% battery at 900 mhz. This was on an iphone 6s. Went to Apple for a battery replacement and they said someone opened the phone and they can t take it to service. I ended up buying the 8.
So Apple already new there were problems with iPhone 6s batteries and they have a repair program to replace them for free. Of course it is limited to specific serial numbers, but worth a shot. I personally had mine replaced under warranty within my first year (before this program, yes, my battery was terrible). Then I got mine replaced again yesterday under the battery program. Mine phone was getting throttled down to 600MHz instead of 1.8GHz. Hopefully they do open up a battery replacement to every iphone 6s or at least add a setting to pick between performance and battery life. Just went to the apple store and told them I was experiencing dramatic drops in battery life and shutdowns and my serial number was eligible. They didn't even run battery diagnostics, just general one.
https://www.apple.com/support/iphone6s-unexpectedshutdown/
https://www.apple.com/support/iphone6s-unexpectedshutdown/
Your issue is highlighted in red.
If you have a negavitve experience with a vendor then you need to stop bring part of:
We
Our
Us
and stop doing this:
keep buying the new one each year
If you continue buying a product which is not living up to expectations then your wounds are self inflicted.