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A section of the iPhone 6s were slowed down on iOS 10.2.1. A section of the iPhone 7 were slowed down on iOS 11.2. Why is this happening every year? If it's a bad battery why doesn't Apple display a message that the CPU is being throttled thanks to battery. The fact they slowed it down on iOS 11.2 shows they are doing it intentionally every year.

A) If they were intentionally doing it with 10.2.1, they wouldn’t have fixed it. Bugs happen.
B) No it doesn’t. It proves that they decided that a stable phone with better battery life was preferred by customers.

These are two data points. Hardly conclusive.
 
Yes, keep up the great work trying to deny everything and obstruct the truth.
Apple might hire you as a PR manager or lawyer :D
You guys are too funny :D

Ha ha ha ha .... me... boy have you got that wrong ha ha ha ....
 
Whilst this is disappointing on the surface, I wonder how much of that data is skewed by the number people testing geekbench with low power mode on...a number that would be very low at first but would have accumulated over the years?
 
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iOS 10.2.1 is likely the introduction point.
There is just no excuses. Apple has intentionally slowed down devices. It’s black and white

No, it isn’t black and white. Proving intention is a waste of time and impossible. And if you think Apple is intentionally ruining devices, I would advise buying from a different company.
 
So basically Apple just can't win!

Iphone users experience random shutdowns due to degraded batteries causing low voltage shutdowns... users complain.

Apple issue a fix to reduce load on CPU to prevent low-voltage shutdowns from happening on iPhones with degraded batteries... users still complain.


I would love to know what is,

Apple do [something-something-somethng]... everybody in the world rejoices!

Or you know, Apple could actually fix the issue properly rather than crippling their devices.
 
A) If they were intentionally doing it with 10.2.1, they wouldn’t have fixed it. Bugs happen.
B) No it doesn’t. It proves that they decided that a stable phone with better battery life was preferred by customers.

These are two data points. Hardly conclusive.

No. A replacement battery is preferred by customers .

Poor attempt at twisting facts there. Apple decided not to replace the battery for $$$ reasons and you are praising them.... meh...
 
Bull. The culprit is a bad battery, which can be easily replaced for $79. How can you have planned obsolescence when a simple repair fixes two issues (bad battery and reduced performance)?

True planned obsolescence would require purchase of a brand new device because your current device is no longer usable (or repairable).

Most do end up "having to buy a new device" as Apple will plain out refuse to replace the battery if it is 80%+ despite the user experiencing issues.

So people who are not aware of the issue and love Apple just upgrade.
 
1) the majority of supposed cases were disproven, after users rebooted between tests their scores returned to normal levels.

2) “hey Apple my battery sucks. You suck... hey Apple, my phone is slow but battery is fine. You suck...”
 
A) If they were intentionally doing it with 10.2.1, they wouldn’t have fixed it. Bugs happen.
B) No it doesn’t. It proves that they decided that a stable phone with better battery life was preferred by customers.

These are two data points. Hardly conclusive.

If I buy a phone I prefer it to work as expected.
I neither want it to turn off at 30% nor donI want it to slow down to a speed that’s lower than it’a predecessor.
 
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No. A replacement battery is preferred by customers .

Poor attempt at twisting facts there. Apple decided not to replace the battery for $$$ reasons and you are praising them.... meh...

I’m not praising Apple for doing this. I never once said it was the right thing to do. I was merely trying to explain beyond “Apple just wants you to buy new phones lol”. Big difference.
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If I buy a phone I prefer it to work as expected.
I neither want it to turn off at 30% nor donI want it to slow down to a speed that’s lower than it’a predecessor.

That’s a fair thing. As I just stated, I wasn’t endorsing Apple’s choice. I just think it was something different than “I wonder how many more phones we can sell if we slow these down”.
 
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Whilst this is disappointing on the surface, I wonder how much of that data is skewed by the number people testing geekbench with low power mode on...a number that would be very low at first but would have accumulated over the years?
Not much, I expect. Besides, they're grouped by iOS version so iOS 11 results couldn't have been accumulated over the span of years. Just months or weeks, I expect. The ones that have a lot of historical results would be older iOS versions.

If you look at the iPhone 7 results, there's a tiny inflection point at around 1800. That's low power mode, albeit the blog post did mention they took out the results for LP mode (I expect some still made it through as the inflection is pretty noticeable).

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Most do end up "having to buy a new device" as Apple will plain out refuse to replace the battery if it is 80%+ despite the user experiencing issues.

So people who are not aware of the issue and love Apple just upgrade.

Where’s your source that batteries at 80% are being throttled?
 
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I did read the article and I didn't see the word 'defective' or 'faulty' used once.

Aww your iPhone slows down by a tiny amount when you open flappy birds... boohoo...

When your phone is slowed down by more than 50% then see how you like it :D
But dont say anything about it , Just give Apple $999 plus tax and keep repeating the same:D
You are their favorite customer(Sheep) :D
 
If I buy a phone I prefer it to work as expected.
I neither want it to turn off at 30% nor donI want it to slow down to a speed that’s lower than it’a predecessor.
Their cold-weather algorithm isn't too great. I had my phone shut down yesterday on my way to the grocery store after shoveling the driveway. It shut down just before I went in. Last time I checked the battery it was at 86%. Once it warmed up and I could turn it back on again about 10 mins later it reported 83%. I don't believe for a second that the cold reduced the my battery capacity that much.
 
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Why is this so hard for you to comprehend? Are you just typing without thinking?

If this was not discovered 99 percent of customers would not know it is the battery causing their phones to move sluggish and lag. Hence, they upgrade to a newer iPhone.

Now if Apple made customers aware, then sure that wouldn't be planned obsolescence.

Ask any iPhone owner you know that's not a techy (which is majority of iPhone owners) what would they think is causing their iPhone to move slow or sluggish. I can bet majority would not say because their battery has degraded.

Do you understand or you need further explanation? Or do you have a next excuse?

Everyone with an iPhone I know takes their devices into Apple to get checked out. A bad battery would be quickly diagnosed as being faulty.
 
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Primate Labs founder John Poole has plotted the kernel density of Geekbench 4 scores for iPhone 6s models running iOS 10.2, iOS 10.2.1, and iOS 11.2, visualizing an apparent link between lower performance and degraded battery health.

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The charts show that on iOS 10.2, the vast majority of iPhone 6s devices benchmarked similarly in performance. However, Poole explains that the distribution of iPhone 6s scores for iOS 10.2.1 appears multimodal, with one large peak around the average and several smaller peaks around lower scores.

In other words, after iOS 10.2.1 was released last January, the performance of a percentage of iPhone 6s devices began to suffer.

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In a statement, Apple said it made improvements in iOS 10.2.1 to reduce occurrences of unexpected iPhone shutdowns that a small number of users were experiencing. The shutdowns were reportedly caused by uneven power delivery from older batteries, which could cause an emergency shutdown of the devices.

While at least one report suggested that Apple tweaked its power management system in iPhone 6s devices, the company never disclosed what specific improvements it made to reduce the unexpected shutdowns.

A recent Reddit discussion, however, has reignited speculation that Apple is intentionally slowing down older iPhones to maximize power efficiency and stability when battery capacity has degraded, and reduce voltage-related shutdowns, and the Geekbench charts and Poole himself lend credit to that theory being true.

"The difference between iOS 10.2 and 10.2.1 is too abrupt to be just a function of battery condition," he said. "I believe ... that Apple introduced a change to limit performance when battery condition decreases past a certain point."

The charts show that the number of iPhone 6s devices with lower Geekbench scores was even more pronounced on iOS 11.2, which is likely because the software update is around one year newer, which means that the battery capacity of many iPhone 6s devices has likely continued to deplete as expected.

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Interestingly, even the iPhone 7 may be starting to be affected. While the distribution of Geekbench scores for the device on iOS 10.2, iOS 10.2.1, and iOS 11.1.2 appear identical, the results change with iOS 11.2 and start to resemble the iPhone 6s' degraded performance starting on iOS 10.2.1.

What this all means is that Apple may be intentionally slowing down older iPhones to maximize power efficiency and stability when battery capacity has degraded, as speculated, seemingly without publicly acknowledging so.

It's important to remember that all lithium-ion batteries naturally lose some of their ability to hold a charge over the course of a few years. Given the iPhone 6s was released in September 2015, the device has been available long enough that some users should consider replacing their battery regardless.

Apple charges an out-of-warranty fee of $79 to replace the battery of all eligible iPhone models in the United States. iPhone 6s users can contact AppleCare or schedule a Genius Bar appointment at a local Apple Store using the Apple Support app.

Apple did not immediately respond to our request for comment about the Geekbench findings. We'll update this article if we hear back.

Article Link: Geekbench Results Visualize Possible Link Between iPhone Slowdowns and Degraded Batteries


any chance that a class action could lead to a global replacement program from Apple ?
 
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I did read the article and I didn't see the word 'defective' or 'faulty' used once.

Aww your iPhone slows down by a tiny amount when you open flappy birds... boohoo...
Bull. The culprit is a bad battery, which can be easily replaced for $79. How can you have planned obsolescence when a simple repair fixes two issues (bad battery and reduced performance)?

True planned obsolescence would require purchase of a brand new device because your current device is no longer usable (or repairable).

Not as such. However ...
Buy a phone under a carrier plan - 24-30 months long. Or more.
Long before you reach the end of the purchase plan, your device is degrading due to a battery that is not lasting as long as expected. If you see the issue, take it to Apple and in most cases Apple says "it's good".

While it may not say "faulty" or "defective", as if Apple ever would, by design and expectation it is an issue.
Personally, if my battery has degraded and it should be replaced for optimal performance, tell me. If it isn't expected to last at least two years, tell me. Don't just blow smoke up my ass and tell me it's all good.
 
Everyone with an iPhone I know takes their devices into Apple to get checked out. A bad battery would be quickly diagnosed as being faulty.
When my 6S used to shut down at about 30% they diagnostics showed it as working just fine.
I had to have a discussion with the manager before I got it replaced. I have read of the same experience in these forums.
 
Everyone with an iPhone I know takes their devices into Apple to get checked out. A bad battery would be quickly diagnosed as being faulty.
So everyone with an iPhone that you know goes to Apple and tell them their phone is moving slower or not opening apps as fast as it use to? I fail to believe that.

In addition, many persons reported they have been experiencing the issue and Apple said their battery is fine and won't even replace it even when the customer requests it and offers to pay the 80 dollars.

So no, a bad battery would not quickly be diagnosed to be faulty.

What's the next excuse?
 
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