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The best I can squeeze from my 1999 Blue and White G3 running a 750GX at 1.1GHz is 622. Also have a 2005 eMac (USB 2.0) PowerPC G4 (7447A) @ 1.25 GHz that scored 731. Compared to my work unit, a Mac Pro (Early 2008) Intel Xeon E5462 @ 2.80 GHz that scored 11002.
 
Graphite 466mhz iBook: 216

Here’s another dead thread I'm resurrecting.

Standing on the shoulders of giants (their links within), the iBook clamshell key lime 466 I've kitted, with:

- 128gb mSATA-to-IDE SSD,
- XGA 1024x768 LCD [anti-glare removed, CCFL backlight replaced with LED],
- 512mb PC133 SO-DIMM [16-module OEM/Samsung from a TiG4/400, the fastest of the 512mb SO-DIMMs I've tested*],
- Matshita UJ-831 DVD-RW [the only known laptop optical burner with tray load & mount holes matching the iBook FW SE bezel], and
- using ATI kexts from OS X Jaguar on 10.4.11 [this system's Tiger build was originally installed clean back in 2007],


scores 266 with Geekbench 2.1.7 (registered copy), and
scores 253 with Geekbench 2.2 (unregistered, 32-bit-only copy).

The one I posted to Geekbench was 264, so this is the only one which “did happen”. The highest posted iBook 466 (stock or otherwise) posted previously to Geekbench2 was 227.

These numbers are low and slow relative to newer gear, obviously, but as Geekbench goes, they appear to be the highest scores ever posted publicly for the iBook 466. I'm treating these as a baseline for future improvement.

tl;dr: I’ll do better next time.

* I've never tested a PC66 512mb module in this machine before, so I don't know how that might compare.
 
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Not yet sure which interventions/improvements I’ve made to this since buying it in March have made a difference, but this jump in performance doesn’t seem solely related to having run tests using different revisions of Geekbench 2.

Whatever the case, I’m impressed.

PowerBook G4 (Double-Layer SD, 17-inch)
888 — 23 March 2019 (Geekbench 2.1.7)
980 — 5 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.2.7)
 
Not yet sure which interventions/improvements I’ve made to this since buying it in March have made a difference, but this jump in performance doesn’t seem solely related to having run tests using different revisions of Geekbench 2.

Whatever the case, I’m impressed.

PowerBook G4 (Double-Layer SD, 17-inch)
888 — 23 March 2019 (Geekbench 2.1.7)
980 — 5 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.2.7)

I'd be careful when comparing GB2 scores across different versions – can you retest using 2.1.7?
 
I'd be careful when comparing GB2 scores across different versions – can you retest using 2.1.7?

Yes, I can.

In the last hour, I ran the test again a few times using 2.1.7, mirroring the same conditions as the above 2.2.7 test. As with others, I reported the best score of these tests.

PowerBook G4 (Double-Layer SD, 17-inch)
888 — 23 March 2019 (Geekbench 2.1.7)
980 — 5 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.2.7)
996 – 6 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.1.7)
 
Yes, I can.

In the last hour, I ran the test again a few times using 2.1.7, mirroring the same conditions as the above 2.2.7 test. As with others, I reported the best score of these tests.

PowerBook G4 (Double-Layer SD, 17-inch)
888 — 23 March 2019 (Geekbench 2.1.7)
980 — 5 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.2.7)
996 – 6 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.1.7)

I have seen Geekbench scores vary on the same hardware between Tiger and Leopard. Leopard scores have always been higher for me. Could Leopard's lower level libraries leverage more Altivec calls, allowing faster number crunching than Tiger?
 
I have seen Geekbench scores vary on the same hardware between Tiger and Leopard. Leopard scores have always been higher for me. Could Leopard's lower level libraries leverage more Altivec calls, allowing faster number crunching than Tiger?

is this across the same GB2 versions?

GB2.2.7 gives a different score than GB2.2.0, but its worth noting 2.2.0 is the latest for tiger where as 2.2.7 is the latest for PPC Leopard, so you may have unknowingly been running 2 different versions of GB
 
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is this across the same GB2 versions?

GB2.2.7 gives a different score than GB2.2.0, but its worth noting 2.2.0 is the latest for tiger where as 2.2.7 is the latest for PPC Leopard, so you may have unknowingly been running 2 different versions of GB

You're probably right, I would have run different versions of GB as well.
 
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Geekbench 2.2.7 on PowerBook a1106 1.5 with 2GB RAM and SSD, Leopard - 848
EveryMac reports 744 as the average for this model.

Cheers :)

Hugh
 
Geekbench 2.2.7 on PowerBook a1106 1.5 with 2GB RAM and SSD, Leopard - 848
EveryMac reports 744 as the average for this model.

Cheers :)

Hugh

Just so you know... the SSD is irrelevant in Geekbench, because it only tests the CPU/FPU and RAM. Your machine would get the same score with a 4200rpm spinner.
 
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Yes, I can.

In the last hour, I ran the test again a few times using 2.1.7, mirroring the same conditions as the above 2.2.7 test. As with others, I reported the best score of these tests.

PowerBook G4 (Double-Layer SD, 17-inch)
888 — 23 March 2019 (Geekbench 2.1.7)
980 — 5 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.2.7)
996 – 6 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.1.7)

Adding another, this time for a late 2004 iBook G4 1.2GHz 12" model I brought back from the dead, rebuilt, replaced broken parts, added good thermal paste, and put it back together. I won’t be keeping this one, but before sending it off to whomever will next take good care of it, I ran Geekbench 2.2.7. It scored extremely well — apparently second-quickest for the 1199/1200 clock frequency series of iBook G4 12" models.

iBook G4 (Early 2004) PowerBook6,5 (note: all early- and late-2004 are shown as "Early 2004" on GB2 for some reason)
703 — 19 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.2.7)
 
What would people personally see as a minimum level of performance or score for a daily machine? I would say 500 minimum. That would be around a single G4 867MHz to 1GHz.
 
What would people personally see as a minimum level of performance or score for a daily machine? I would say 500 minimum. That would be around a single G4 867MHz to 1GHz.

It's always going to depend on what your daily use is isn't it? A Mac used for MIDI music production in OS8/9 will probably do fine on a score of 200. A Mac 'comfortably' zooming around the internet is going to benefit from 2000 plus....
Then again, let's not get confused between CPU power and an optimised OS and software.
 
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It's always going to depend on what your daily use is isn't it? A Mac used for MIDI music production in OS8/9 will probably do fineon a score of 200. A Mac 'comfortably' zooming around the internet is going to benefit from 2000 plus....
Then again, let's not get confused between CPU power and an optimised OS and software.

That's why I used the words "What would people personally see as a minimum level of performance or score for a daily machine?" I never asked for a one size fits all answer, but rather the exact opposite. It seems you didn't understand my question at all.
 
Adding another, this time for a late 2004 iBook G4 1.2GHz 12" model I brought back from the dead, rebuilt, replaced broken parts, added good thermal paste, and put it back together. I won’t be keeping this one, but before sending it off to whomever will next take good care of it, I ran Geekbench 2.2.7. It scored extremely well — apparently second-quickest for the 1199/1200 clock frequency series of iBook G4 12" models.

iBook G4 (Early 2004) PowerBook6,5 (note: all early- and late-2004 are shown as "Early 2004" on GB2 for some reason)
703 — 19 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.2.7)

And lastly (for now), my Power Mac G5 tested out OK, though not lightning-fast for its class:

Power Mac G5 DP 2.0GHz (June 2004) PowerMac7,3
1818 — 19 May 2019 (Geekbench 2.2.7) [the fastest shown by another user on Geekbench 2 is 1929; Everymac is 1702]
 
That's why I used the words "What would people personally see as a minimum level of performance or score for a daily machine?" I never asked for a one size fits all answer, but rather the exact opposite. It seems you didn't understand my question at all.

You could have simply asked what's people's lowest scoring daily driver machine?
Why not lead by example and provide your own answer first?
 
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