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SiliconAddict said:
I also find it somewhat telling:



So we could be seeing a relatively cheap Apple phone on the horizon. All I ask is please for the love of all that is good no shiny metal.

The shell of the phone is most likely going to be made of "ionized aluminum ". The iBook has this for the latch, mini, iPod has it on its HOLD button, the PMG5. Need I say more Apple always incorporated new materials in they todays designs as a guideline. :)
 
shamino said:
Motorola makes all kinds of phones, including CDMA.

I'm well aware of the type of phones that we make.

shamino said:
What makes you think they would not put this feature into a CDMA phone? It's not like the wireless technology has anything to do with it, since the songs would be loaded via USB cable or BlueTooth.

It's more likely that they'll test market the feature in one model, using one carrier, and the wireless tech used will be whatever that one carrier uses. If it sells well, they'll likely incorporate it into several subsequent models, using a wide variety of technologies.

My hypothesis is that there's been much more Apple involvement with this project than was originally planned. Consider the difference between the original HP iPod prototype (the ugly blue thing that Carly was showing off at CES) and what eventually came out. Ostensibly the motive was that the 4G iPod had just arrived and so HP wanted that - but Apple knew that the 4G iPod was coming, so they could have planned around that. Rather, I think Apple wanted more control over the product, and wanted to make it an Apple product "from HP", which is why the current product is obviously an Apple iPod, that happens to have a HP logo silkscreened on the back and in the firmware.

shamino said:
But if a Verizon customer wants to use it, he's going to have to buy it on his own, at full price. Because Verizon is a bunch of money-grubbing pigs.

It sounds like you have a beef with Verizon (so do I) and so you've convinced yourself that it WILL be coming out with Verizon. Given the number of CDMA phones we make relative to the number of GSM phones, and the fact that a CDMA phone can't be sold outside the States, I'd consider it to be much more likely that it's a GSM phone and not a CDMA phone. Of course, it's not impossible that it's CDMA, but if it is, I would bet that a GSM version would soon follow anyway for the simple reason that GSM is the worldwide standard.

There is a name for what you're doing and it's called "catastrophic thinking" by psychologists. Avoid it if you can; it's not healthy. ;)
 
Frickin' huge news. I can't wait.

No, seriously, I need a new telephone now. It seems all the rumours and snips of informaiton are finally coming together. Awesome!
 
if this were an add on to the iPod - will it work with the current iPod line? I'm simply posing the question, since i would hate to get a new iPod AGAIN!
 
Gah, just when I was about to buy a Razr V3.

Now I'll have to wait until it's announced.
Quite honestly I don't care about all the "cool" features and crap. I just want a phone that can make/receive calls, looks awesome, has an aluminum frame and the price tag is in the $500+ range to keep it somewhat exclusive (Even though apparently it's in the $300 range :( ). The Razr V3 looks like it can do that, but if two companies I love are making a phone (Apple + Motorola) then I am forced to wait.

I just hope they make that phone out of Aluminum, like the Nokia 8890 or Motorola Razr V3. Like PowerBooks. It makes or kills the phone IMO. Its essential. :cool:

If they took the Razr V3, made some cool Apple OSX-like interface, changed the keypad backlight to white and slapped some Apple logos here and there it would be THE phone to get. BMW integration would be nice too (being able to answer and hang up from the steering wheel controls).
 
*yawn*, I don't use a cell phone, though I'm probably the only one here.

Apple has always been a top-notch hardware design/engineering company, so this will probably be another feather in their corporate cap.
 
Huezo said:
Gah, just when I was about to buy a Razr V3.

If they took the Razr V3, made some cool Apple OSX-like interface, changed the keypad backlight to white and slapped some Apple logos here and there it would be THE phone to get. BMW integration would be nice too (being able to answer and hang up from the steering wheel controls).

I've had the razr for about two months. As a phone, it works perfectly fine. The call quality is superb. The phone's design is gorgeous. However, the built in camera is utterly useless. The picture quality is atrocious. The phone-book is an absolute joke. If a contact has more than one phone number, you have to create separate entries for each. The OS is really slow. It is the same OS as on Motorola's v5-6X line of phones.
Also, there are no memory card slots on the phone, the phone itself has about 5.5 megs of free memory. So, forget about using itunes on it in the future.

If I were you, I would wait until the next revision of the razr. Hopefully, motorola will ditch the awful OS which in my opinion cripples this beautiful phone and replace it with a more modern one like Windows Mobile.
 
taeclee99 said:
I've had the razr for about two months. As a phone, it works perfectly fine. The call quality is superb. The phone's design is gorgeous. However, the built in camera is utterly useless. The picture quality is atrocious. The phone-book is an absolute joke. If a contact has more than one phone number, you have to create separate entries for each. The OS is really slow. It is the same OS as on Motorola's v5-6X line of phones.
Also, there are no memory card slots on the phone, the phone itself has about 5.5 megs of free memory. So, forget about using itunes on it in the future.

If I were you, I would wait until the next revision of the razr. Hopefully, motorola will ditch the awful OS which in my opinion cripples this beautiful phone and replace it with a more modern one like Windows Mobile.

That's exactly why I would like the Razr. I don't want those useless features, I will never use the built-in camera. I will never use PDA features on a phone, I don't want to save files on it so the lack of expansion cards and the 5.5MB of memory is more than enough. I will have no more than 10 entries on the address book so that's not an issue. In fact, the color screen is overkill. The only thing I will use it for will be to put a nice BMW wallpaper on it. I won't listen to music on it either, I have an iPod mini and B&O Earphones for that. I will probably make about 5 calls a month. I just want a nice phone that looks awesome and is made out of aluminum.

None of your complaints apply to any of my needs or expectations on a cell phone. The Razr V3 is fine as it is for me. I just want to see what Apple and Motorola come up with before I buy one.
 
Hopefully this phone is GSM. There are far too few GSM phones available in the US market. Also, hopefully this phone will be easier to use than my last stinker of a Motorola.
 
In the past two years, I've gone through a dozen plus cell phones, and currently I'm using the Motorola v80, probably the most stylish phone I've ever seen, and in my mind, totally kicks the Razr's ass. It's pretty much the same thing as the V600, which has its problems, but if you took a phone like that, added a memory card slot, changed the UI/OS, and do a few minor exterior tweaks, you have a iPhone right there :).
 
noel4r said:
an Apple phone? this is gonna be cool. my contract w/ AT&T is about to expire. i think i'll wait for this one. hopefully it's a GSM phone.

I dont' see where it would be anything but a GSM phone.
So I guess sprint, verizon and nextel will be left out in the cold.
 
shamino said:
Motorola makes all kinds of phones, including CDMA.

What makes you think they would not put this feature into a CDMA phone? It's not like the wireless technology has anything to do with it, since the songs would be loaded via USB cable or BlueTooth.QUOTE]

Doesn't Verizon disable all bluetooth functions forcing you to pay them to transfer files to and from the phone?
 
Powerbook G5 said:
When I heard this rumor I was a bit upset since I just recently bought a Nokia 6600 through T-Mobile to ditch my horrible Sprint phone. But I realize that I don't see why I'd care. My Nokia has great Bluetooth integration with OS X since I can use it to go online wirelessly in over 100 countries with my PowerBook for wireless internet anywhere there is GSM coverage, which means free internet all in the US and such, perfect iCal syncing and Address book syncing, and I can easily transfer photos to iPhoto and send files to and from my phone simply by the press of a button. Furthermore, I can access my .mac email with my Nokia phone using t-zones right from the homepage when I open my phone's web browser and I can even check the latest Macrumor news as well. I can play mp3s on my phone, I can assign just about any song I want as a ringtone for free by downloading the song I want and transferring it to my phone and with the Symbian OS, my phone has full theme capabilities and 100's of applications I can download to customize its interface. Even with all that, I have a nice quality digital camera, a vga video camera, a voice recorder, and 64 megs of memory with an additional 6 megs internal memory and the capability to expand to a full gig of memory if I so choose. Not bad for a phone I paid only $49 for. Unless Apple can compete against that, I don't see much reason for an iPhone.

One last thing, if anyone has seen those new RAZR phones, they really are crap. They have so much body flex that if you put just a little pressure you can tell it can be broken pretty easily and both the layout of its software is poor and simple things as ring level and speaker volume are pretty poor as well. If this is the best that Motorola can do, then I hope Apple knows what they are getting themselves into.

I only wish my Nokia 6620 worked as well as the 6600. I am hoping apple fixes isync to work with the newer symbian phones soon.
 
Porchland said:
When you realize that mobile carriers subsidize expensive phones with contracts.

False. The phone prices are only slightly less than prices in Europe, where phones are sold unlocked. Yet I can't even pay extra in the US to get an unlocked phone. The carriers are ripping off US consumers. No big surprise there.
 
Hello, Moto! :)

I bought Motorola stock waiting for something show up about the iTunes partnership. I got more than I bargained for :)

I may have to replace my phone as well. As long as Verizon is compatible.
 
Anybody but Moto

Like a lot of people here, I'm not very happy with the choice of Motorola to produce this phone. I've owned 2 Moto phones; a StarTac, and a V600. My recent experience with the V600 was horrible. The dial-up networking was disabled (you needed to pay $60 for the connection kit) and the contact application was really bad (although not quite as bad as Nokia's).

I just hope that this phone is:

1.) Slim
2.) Expandable with standard memory cards like SD
3.) Has bluetooth and supports multiple, simultaneous connection
4.) Apple PIM-style applications
5.) Seamless integration with iSync
6.) Can run Salling Clicker (if you have a Mac and a Palm, or Symbian or Sony Phone... download the trial... it's AWESOME)
7.) EDGE support
8.) If possible, a real OS like Symbian or Linux (with the Palm layer)

It'd be really cool if they upgraded the A630 to meet these requirements... the keypad is excellent for SMS. And if it ran Symbian, I could load Putty on it so I could log into work via SSH.

But, I think if it met all these requirements, the phone would be priced in the $400+ range and I doubt Apple wants to do that.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
*yawn*, I don't use a cell phone, though I'm probably the only one here.

You're not. I don't use one--and I wish my friends/contacts didn't either! Not with quality being so spotty. It's really annoying.

The benefits are obvious, and I'm sure someday I'll get one. But from contracts to connection issues to coverage area, I have yet to hear of anyone getting an experience from a mobile phone that I'd find acceptable. (I'm in the US of course.)
 
what's the deal?

so, will bluetooth headfones be available for the ipod? can i listen to my ipod and hear the phone ring? is there a mic built into my bluetooth headfones?

i can't wait :)
 
testnull said:
I work for Motorola, and I have a few things to say to all of those people who say that "Motorola phones suck". Yes, quality has been a huge issue on Mot phones in the past. I think a lot of this was due to the lack of concern about quality from the top, our previous bozo CEO Chris Galvin. Our new CEO is Ed Zander (formerly from Sun), and he's done a lot to focus on quality. Yes, it's still an issue, but it's one that's being addressed. The build quality of the RAZR is very, very high. I know nothing about any potential Apple / Motorola phone but if it's a reasonably high-end phone like the others we have been producing, it should be a great product.

As for those of you who say that nothing Motorola is allowed in your house: get a life. For the record, we make the softmodem that Apple uses in (AFAIK) all Apple computers, so be sure to order your G5 without a modem. For the rest of you, I hope you evaluate whatever product we come up with on its strengths and then make a reasonable decision. Ed Z and Steve Jobs are big buddies and I'm sure they've worked hard to come up with something that will satisfy both the mac users and the fans of high-end phones.
i totally agree with you as far as quality of Motorola phones. It has improved big time over the past 1 or 2 years. as far as the RAZR, theres absolutely nothing great about it. the nokia 6600 and 6230 pisses all over it.
 
cubist said:
False. The phone prices are only slightly less than prices in Europe, where phones are sold unlocked. Yet I can't even pay extra in the US to get an unlocked phone. The carriers are ripping off US consumers. No big surprise there.

I fully agree. I hate having to get a new contract to get a non-ridiculous price on a phone.
 
testnull said:
...and the fact that a CDMA phone can't be sold outside the States...

is that a fact? i'm on bell mobility in canada and i believe it's a cdma network... please correct me if i'm wrong though.

PLEASE don't make me go back to fido or to (gulp) rogers for an apple gsm phone...
 
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