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I think he meant North America and not just the States. Sprint and Verizon have some coverage spots in Canada and Mexico as well. It's just within the North American continent that we seem to pride ourselves at going against the global standard. All I can say is that now that I have switched to GSM with T-Mobile, I will never go back. I get such better reception and the technology is just years ahead of what Sprint has been pawning off on its customers. Not to mention I just have to pop my SIM chip into any phone and it'll work instead of the hassle of paying a new activation fee and going through customer service and all that just to upgrade and the ability to make a call when I go out of the country.
 
autopilot said:
is that a fact? i'm on bell mobility in canada and i believe it's a cdma network... please correct me if i'm wrong though.

PLEASE don't make me go back to fido or to (gulp) rogers for an apple gsm phone...
Oops. I forgot that the rest of the continent is as backwards as we are in that respect :)
 
SiliconAddict said:
Does anyone else think this i crap needs to go? Its so played out its not even cool or even funny anymore. Sure iPod. But come on. Someone at Apple can think up something other then iPhone. ICK.

Do you have a better name to propose?
 
I'm not keeping my hopes high on this one. It could be just a Motorola phone and an Apple iTunes Lite for mobile phones.

I don't think Motorola phones suck. Just some design issues. But I believe that Motorola has improved their offerings. As why an Apple/Motorola collaboration, I guess it's all American.

But it's an Apple branded mobile, it would be nice to see what Apple comes up with. I still love the Wristomo but it only works in Japan and already out-of-production.
 
iphone with tiger technology would rock my ass

remember the wwdc when that guy spoke about the new compression format...hd to cellphone!!!! quicktime on your cellphone is coming....

voice activated spotlight technology??? call dave at 2 and make a note about the meeting on tuesday..


safari built in...whoa...
 
My concern here is that the US has long lagged behind the rest of the world with its mobile phone technology - it's only just getting to grips with GSM, while the rest of us are moving to 3G.

The iPhone (for want of a better name) needs to be 3G to appeal to a worldwide market. It would also then have the ability to download music from the iTunes Music Store, which would make it a winner with the youth market. If it usess 2G technology it'll be dead in the water outside the US.
 
I don't know what you're talking about CDMA at the top of this page, because my Dad just bought a new CDMA phone here in Australia to use out when fishing and places because it has better coverage in remote areas than GSM. There's not many CDMA phones available but there's a reasonable selection.
 
Philsy said:
My concern here is that the US has long lagged behind the rest of the world with its mobile phone technology - it's only just getting to grips with GSM, while the rest of us are moving to 3G.

The iPhone (for want of a better name) needs to be 3G to appeal to a worldwide market. It would also then have the ability to download music from the iTunes Music Store, which would make it a winner with the youth market. If it usess 2G technology it'll be dead in the water outside the US.

It doesn't need to be 3G to appeal. First of all, why would Apple/Moto develop a 3G phone that couldn't be used widely in the US? Secondly, the reason why 3G is (finally) taking off in the UK where you are, so your perspective may be skewed to the local situation, isn't because of the multimedia capabilities, but because of voice. Yes, voice is still the killer application on phones and some of the tariffs on 3G phones are really cheap - that's why people are switching to them. Just because operators are pushing sports highlights, movie trailers, news, and other services that will make them more profitable, that doesn't mean that that's why people are buying the 3G phones or how they are using them.
 
sunilraman said:
right on, brotha...!!!!

apple, if it please you, iPhone = sony ericsson t630 + ipod Mini !!!!

**prepares for flames for wanking on too much about SE phones :rolleyes:

Leaving wanking out of it :p , I agree that Sony Ericsson phones are presently the most Apple friendly.

Still maintain that Apple needs to go down the 3G route - the obvious choice for a forward-thinking company - remember when they dared to offer Macs with USB for the first time? ;)
 
Stewie said:
Doesn't Verizon disable all bluetooth functions forcing you to pay them to transfer files to and from the phone?
Go back and read my first post in this thread.

Most carriers disable all kinds of features in order to force you to pay for services that should be free. Verizon is one of the worst examples, but they aren't the only one.

But this has nothing to do with the post I was replying to, where the OP claimed that the new Motorola phone would be GSM-only.
 
Philsy said:
My concern here is that the US has long lagged behind the rest of the world with its mobile phone technology - it's only just getting to grips with GSM, while the rest of us are moving to 3G.

The iPhone (for want of a better name) needs to be 3G to appeal to a worldwide market. It would also then have the ability to download music from the iTunes Music Store, which would make it a winner with the youth market. If it usess 2G technology it'll be dead in the water outside the US.
You seem to be under the insane impression that Motorola has to pick one technology and refuse to support everything else.

What is there to prevent Motorola from putting iTunes compatibility into several different phones, using several different technologies.

The fact that you are only interested in the one your carrier uses doesn't mean thre's no money to be made in everything else.
 
Philsy said:
Still maintain that Apple needs to go down the 3G route - the obvious choice for a forward-thinking company - remember when they dared to offer Macs with USB for the first time? ;)
Why does Apple have to do anything? They're not making the phones, and they probably never will.
 
shamino said:
You seem to be under the insane impression that Motorola has to pick one technology and refuse to support everything else.

What is there to prevent Motorola from putting iTunes compatibility into several different phones, using several different technologies.

The fact that you are only interested in the one your carrier uses doesn't mean thre's no money to be made in everything else.

Fair point in that Motorola could use different technologies, but I'm far from insane and I didn't say I was only interested in the one my carrier uses. Rather, I said that any such phone that Apple is linked with (whatever it's branded) should take advantage of the latest technology, which is 3G. That would then give the capability for people to purchase and download music from iTunes using their phone.
 
theROZ said:
remember the wwdc when that guy spoke about the new compression format...hd to cellphone!!!! quicktime on your cellphone is coming....
"that guy" is Steve Jobs, aka, CEO of Apple. Makers of the Macintosh.

theROZ said:
voice activated spotlight technology??? call dave at 2 and make a note about the meeting on tuesday..

There was an Apple product called the Newton that did something to that effect. You would write "Lunch with Bob at noon" and then tap on a button called "Assist". It would then look up Bob in your address book, and schedule an appointment with him at 12:00 the next day with the title "Lunch".
 
jbembe said:
That would be a bummer if this was another analagous situation as with the hp branded iPod. Just stick another company's sticker on the product and sell it at a few new stores. YAWN.
As "bummers" go, the HP deal is pretty profitable ;)
 
I already have 2 iPhones

Yup - both sitting in my closet here. Haven't used them for 2-3 years now... OK. OK. There actually was a company called InfoGear that made an "iPhone" (TM) It as a nice 2 line desktop phone with internet connection/small screen built in - is pretty cool actually and many still use them to check e-mails/stocks/quick websites -- easily.

The the big bad bear came to town - one named CISCO - and acquired InfoGear. As they did with 90% of their purchases whant they were in the bubble buying spree... they did NOTHING with it and development just died. At least the thing still works through an ISP named Big Planet.

So, my guess is that unless Apple pays $$$ to CISCO, the name "iPhone" is out.
 
The "flash" iPod ?

Everyone is trying to figure out how Apple is going to make a flash based iPod - based on a lot of rumors of them buying large quantities of the stuff...

How about if the flash iPod in fact is the iPhone... ? It would make sense to use flash-memory in a gadget like this... maybe with the new AAC plus technology (would make sense if they could then squeeze more tunes in less space).. maybe even with the Sirius satelite radio...
 
iMan said:
Everyone is trying to figure out how Apple is going to make a flash based iPod - based on a lot of rumors of them buying large quantities of the stuff...

How about if the flash iPod in fact is the iPhone... ? It would make sense to use flash-memory in a gadget like this... maybe with the new AAC plus technology (would make sense if they could then squeeze more tunes in less space).. maybe even with the Sirius satelite radio...

I think that Apple is just helping Moto out with s/w development on the alleged iPhone. Mostly, I'm hoping that Apple is in control of iTunes integration and is developing the GUI/OS. Moto needs help developing an intuitive GUI.
Assuming that there really is going to be a Moto/Apple phone that plays iTunes music, and maybe even has the ability to dl songs from the iTMS, I still think Apple is best served by developing and releasing a flash iPod micro. At $300 or so, the iPhone would be in the same price range as the iPod and mini, and isn't going to attract all that many people looking for a less costly solution for their portable music. Yes, a phone that plays music will be attractive, particularly to those who want a single device for both and don't need to cart all their music around with them everyehere they go. OTOH, if I can't afford $300 for an iPod, or I already have a phone with a contract, then I'm not interested in an iPhone.
These two devices do have some crossover, but they each primarily serve their own market.
 
AT71 said:
I'm not keeping my hopes high on this one. It could be just a Motorola phone and an Apple iTunes Lite for mobile phones.

I agree. I certainly hope that Apple does indeed have something to do with the operating system of Motorola cellphones, but I don't see that happening.
Apple designing an operating system for someone else?
 
I've been thinking for few days about this thing. :)

First version : I think that probably it's will be a Motorola phone series E that, almost like E398 but with iTunes on it.
Why? Because Black Eyed Peas - Let's get it started were used by Moto and Apple at the same time to promote their products iTunes+iPod (iMac G5 intro) and Moto used them to promote E398 include in their video clip.
Second version: Motorola will release next version of their phone series E that will actually compatible with Apple iPod, so you just stick it in the FireWire slot and it transfers on the your phone your favorite songs lib, bluetooth is too slow for that kind stuff.
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I use SE P900 256Mb Memory Stick DUO (50 songs) with Ogg player and use iTunes on the PB and the only problem for me is sync the lib, it's slow. :(
 
What I would ideally like to see in an iPhone...

1. BlueTooth module
2. Wireless iSync
3. iTunes Remote (Salling Clickeresque for Airport Express)
4. iPhoto integration (with 5 megapixel digicam built in)
5. iCal and Address Book
6. Maybe iChat (Sidekick style)

I think they could probably make that similarly sized to an iPod, maybe slightly bigger, but definitely something that I would purchase.
 
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