davecuse said:
Well, I'm happy using my Sony Ericsson T630 - it even LOOKS like an iPhone, with it's white cover....
1. Done
2. Done
3. Salling clicker
4. Ok, the camera sucks
5. Done
6. One day... though I hear you can do it on PC...
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Well, I'm happy using my Sony Ericsson T630 - it even LOOKS like an iPhone, with it's white cover....
1. Done
2. Done
3. Salling clicker
4. Ok, the camera sucks
5. Done
6. One day... though I hear you can do it on PC...
Hob
Why IS GSM such a big deal? I think it was all hip and cool in the UK about... 9 years ago? Back when Nokia phones would gave their funky GSM logo stamped on the front of their phones (see Nokia 5100 - my dad had one!)Powerbook G5 said:
Is it because the companies don't want to pay to upgrade every single non-gsm part of the country? (I don't have much knowledge here - help me out?) I would think this should come first, before they start talking about... what was it called? EDGE? Hi-speed stuff like that...
Hob
Bluetooth is slow and drain your battery life.
Forget about transfer on the phone mp3 files over Bluetooth, 256Mb its will take over 3 hours and will drain the phone battery to 0. Believe me, Im using SE P900 and its sucks to transfer over Bluetooth mp3 files, really slow.
Forget about transfer on the phone mp3 files over Bluetooth, 256Mb its will take over 3 hours and will drain the phone battery to 0. Believe me, Im using SE P900 and its sucks to transfer over Bluetooth mp3 files, really slow.
hob said:
GSM is being phased out even in Europe in coming years. New standard should be the 3G net (UMTS) - which is already big in Japan and other areas of Asia. Multiplying the bandwith, so TV and videochat on the cell is a breeze - even opens up the possibility for downloading high quality music of course...
iPhone
The only reason Apple should release a Cell Phone is if they can complete out-do the competition convincingly. Kinda like what they did with the Ipod or PBs way back in the day. (firewire when it was new, etc)
SO i think they need to have at least these features:
1)Design- Must look SHARP and Apple-esque. Ipod Phone basically.
2)Some form of removable storage
3) a "smart phone" OS that will work with osx
4) mini iTunes software
5)....this is the most important one......at least a 2 megapixel camera on the phone. if they really wanna stun us, a 3 megapixel (not likely) the 5 mega pixel is even less likely i think as mentioned above. Sharp and Sony and even Samsung all have this feature. SO......
Ichat and all that would be based on the network so that would vary by continent so i would be too upset if they ommitted the iLife suite....but it should be part of the future development of the product..
That would be the must have toy of next year. Cool phone (triband gsm) iTunes, Apple design, and a sick camera. replaces the point and shoot, as well as simple PDA and a phone.....PERFECT.......
The only reason Apple should release a Cell Phone is if they can complete out-do the competition convincingly. Kinda like what they did with the Ipod or PBs way back in the day. (firewire when it was new, etc)
SO i think they need to have at least these features:
1)Design- Must look SHARP and Apple-esque. Ipod Phone basically.
2)Some form of removable storage
3) a "smart phone" OS that will work with osx
4) mini iTunes software
5)....this is the most important one......at least a 2 megapixel camera on the phone. if they really wanna stun us, a 3 megapixel (not likely) the 5 mega pixel is even less likely i think as mentioned above. Sharp and Sony and even Samsung all have this feature. SO......
Ichat and all that would be based on the network so that would vary by continent so i would be too upset if they ommitted the iLife suite....but it should be part of the future development of the product..
That would be the must have toy of next year. Cool phone (triband gsm) iTunes, Apple design, and a sick camera. replaces the point and shoot, as well as simple PDA and a phone.....PERFECT.......
many of you are missing the point...
imagine the audio abilities of the iPod AND a phone built TOGETHER. in other words, you DON'T have two, three or four devices but ONE.
i have a SE T616 and I love the bluetooth functionality, salling clicker, etc. but the camera is a joke and there is no aac/audio functionality. if i could smash it together with my iPod i would be ECSTATIC because i hate having keys, a wallet, my phone, an iPod, a digital camera...et cetera in my pockets!
people have made the point that Apple is going to be facing huge competition in the near future being that many phones can play .mp3 files NOW. if someone else made a phone that could store 4GB of music on it and worked with iTunes/aac, i wouldn't even have an iPod. if apple doesn't leverage their market dominance now, then they are going to lose out...again.
the other point that people are missing that just got mentioned is that GPRS EDGE and UMTS are MUCH faster and will make downloading a song DIRECTLY to the phone a reality. not a ringtone, a full-length, .aac audio file.
apple really only has two options, build their own proprietary phone OR, make a deal with cell phone manufacturers to license iTunes and iPod functionality to them to have them integrate it into their phones. how did their last round of proprietary computing decisions work out? (3% marketshare).
imagine: a bluetooth phone (with Salling Clicker) that works with iSync, an integrated hard drive and iTunes, GPRS EDGE and UMTS for SUPER FAST connectivity to the internet. sit down with a super slim laptop anywhere and dial into your phone in your bag or pocket and iChat and e-mail on your computer (where you can actually use a QWERTY keyboard that is built at human scale and has a screen that you can see). then, later go for a run with your phone/iPod and have your music and communication with you!
digital camera tech keeps getting smaller and smaller as do hard drives and phone connectivity keeps getting faster...isn't it logical that these devices will merge?
lmalave made the best point.
"The main point is not to let people buy songs with their phone. The main point is simply to let people play MP3 and AAC files on their phone. In just a couple of years, Apple is going to be facing a huge threat from mobile phones that come equipped with built-in MP3 player and an SD card slot, not to mention a camera. It makes sense for Apple to partner up with a mobile phone company. Apple would provide software (iTunes) and perhaps design expertise.
imagine the audio abilities of the iPod AND a phone built TOGETHER. in other words, you DON'T have two, three or four devices but ONE.
i have a SE T616 and I love the bluetooth functionality, salling clicker, etc. but the camera is a joke and there is no aac/audio functionality. if i could smash it together with my iPod i would be ECSTATIC because i hate having keys, a wallet, my phone, an iPod, a digital camera...et cetera in my pockets!
people have made the point that Apple is going to be facing huge competition in the near future being that many phones can play .mp3 files NOW. if someone else made a phone that could store 4GB of music on it and worked with iTunes/aac, i wouldn't even have an iPod. if apple doesn't leverage their market dominance now, then they are going to lose out...again.
the other point that people are missing that just got mentioned is that GPRS EDGE and UMTS are MUCH faster and will make downloading a song DIRECTLY to the phone a reality. not a ringtone, a full-length, .aac audio file.
apple really only has two options, build their own proprietary phone OR, make a deal with cell phone manufacturers to license iTunes and iPod functionality to them to have them integrate it into their phones. how did their last round of proprietary computing decisions work out? (3% marketshare).
imagine: a bluetooth phone (with Salling Clicker) that works with iSync, an integrated hard drive and iTunes, GPRS EDGE and UMTS for SUPER FAST connectivity to the internet. sit down with a super slim laptop anywhere and dial into your phone in your bag or pocket and iChat and e-mail on your computer (where you can actually use a QWERTY keyboard that is built at human scale and has a screen that you can see). then, later go for a run with your phone/iPod and have your music and communication with you!
digital camera tech keeps getting smaller and smaller as do hard drives and phone connectivity keeps getting faster...isn't it logical that these devices will merge?
lmalave made the best point.
"The main point is not to let people buy songs with their phone. The main point is simply to let people play MP3 and AAC files on their phone. In just a couple of years, Apple is going to be facing a huge threat from mobile phones that come equipped with built-in MP3 player and an SD card slot, not to mention a camera. It makes sense for Apple to partner up with a mobile phone company. Apple would provide software (iTunes) and perhaps design expertise.
iPhone Pic's !?!
I found this online? anyone seen this picture yet.?
seems to be a page from a magazine.
http://www.shampoopoo.com/pictures/iphone.jpg[/IMG]
CLICK HERE
I found this online? anyone seen this picture yet.?
seems to be a page from a magazine.
http://www.shampoopoo.com/pictures/iphone.jpg[/IMG]
CLICK HERE
porkCHOP said:
Nice, but definitely fake. On a style note, as my good friend pointed out to me, Apple would never say, "Say Hello to the iPhone", they would say, "Say Hello to iPhone".
~Shard~ said:Nice, but definitely fake. On a style note, as my good friend pointed out to me, Apple would never say, "Say Hello to the iPhone", they would say, "Say Hello to iPhone".
The image is from issue one of iCreate magazine. It's a very good UK published Mac mag with minimal advertising, cover disc and really useful tutorials. It's aimed at consumers, but does occasionally provide tutorials for prosumer and pro apps.
Every issue they have a feature called "What if Apple made ..." They let their imaginations run wild coming up with a new, wished-for product and also design it. Issue one's product was the iPhone. The iPhone image basically went around the world and got them noticed - not a bad way to launch a magazine! So, technically, not a fake as they never claimed it to be real - it was more other people hoping it was real - but it's not real either.
alex69 said:
Thanks for the background. Regardless, it's a very well done mock-up, intentional or otherwise.
Oh man and to think I almost got a Nextel i860 (well I still might get it with Christmas just around the corner ) I was reading up on this idea for the past couple of weeks and I was skeptical because I don't buy ALOT of music from the ITMS, I just copy them from my CD's. The things that makes me want to hold out for the iPhone are:
I believe I have another year and a half on my Nextel contract but my monthly bills are so high that it would be cheaper to pay the early termination fee when the iPhone is released (if you have Nextel you know how outragous the bills are... my bills are about $65-80 a month)
Thank you all very much for supplying the right ammount of rumors to convince me to hold out for the highly anticipated iPhone (well I think it's highly anticipated)
) I was reading up on this idea for the past couple of weeks and I was skeptical because I don't buy ALOT of music from the ITMS, I just copy them from my CD's. The things that makes me want to hold out for the iPhone are: - Much wanted Bluetooth (I mean it's on my PB and I have yet to use it)
- The possibily of beeing able to listen to music from it
- A rumored ability that it would have a camera (which is why I'm interested in the i860)
- and Of course, the Apple name
I believe I have another year and a half on my Nextel contract but my monthly bills are so high that it would be cheaper to pay the early termination fee when the iPhone is released (if you have Nextel you know how outragous the bills are... my bills are about $65-80 a month)
Thank you all very much for supplying the right ammount of rumors to convince me to hold out for the highly anticipated iPhone (well I think it's highly anticipated)
Just found this....
Motorola Phone Demo a MacExpo Possibility; Ship by July
, 12.23.04, 1:39 PM ET
The Mac Observer
Apple Computer and Motorola are ready to demo a yet-to-be released new cellular phone with an iTunes software client built in that could be in the hands of consumers by July 2005, American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu told clients in a commentary released Thursday.
"We believe that Apple and Motorola are ready to demo a yet-to-be released new cell phone with iTunes software client," Mr. Wu wrote in his report, obtained by The Mac Observer. "Apple and Motorola announced a deal back in July and we believe Steve Jobs may give an update on its progress during his keynote speech at the MacWorld Expo on January 11, 2005."
Mr. Wu said he believed the joint product was "on track to be ready for consumers in the first half of 2005."
Mr. Wu said he believed the phone would have both USB and Bluetooth connectivity to transfer music files, offer 12 to 24 song capacity, but offer no direct access to the iTunes music store.
"Like an iPod, we believe one still needs access to an iTunes on a PC client (Mac or Windows) to transfer files to the cell phone," he wrote.
The west coast analyst said he considered the venture a "win-win" for both companies.
"For Apple, this deal expands its iTunes footprint beyond PCs (Mac and Windows) and iPods into the cell phone space with Motorola one of the top cell phone manufacturers in the world. We also believe this gives Apple further differentiation versus its competitors in the digital music space and gives more users the iTunes/Mac "look and feel" experience and could help accelerate AAPL's sales."
Mr. Wu reiterated Apple shares as a 'buy' with a $78 price target. "We believe that the move to digital music is a multi-year trend that Apple is well-positioned to capitalize on, having arguably the industry's most powerful and complete stack of hardware, software, and service."
Eddy Cue, Apple's vice president of applications, told Forbes magazine Dec. 16 a joint venture with Motorola was "on schedule" for a 2005 debut, but gave no further details. Both companies announced a joint venture in July.
The Mac Observer: Daily Mac News, Reviews, and Tips. You'll Get Your Mac news Here From Now on. <a href=http://www.macobserver.com>http://www.MacObserver.com</a>
Copyright 2004 The Mac Observer, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Motorola Phone Demo a MacExpo Possibility; Ship by July
, 12.23.04, 1:39 PM ET
The Mac Observer
Apple Computer and Motorola are ready to demo a yet-to-be released new cellular phone with an iTunes software client built in that could be in the hands of consumers by July 2005, American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu told clients in a commentary released Thursday.
"We believe that Apple and Motorola are ready to demo a yet-to-be released new cell phone with iTunes software client," Mr. Wu wrote in his report, obtained by The Mac Observer. "Apple and Motorola announced a deal back in July and we believe Steve Jobs may give an update on its progress during his keynote speech at the MacWorld Expo on January 11, 2005."
Mr. Wu said he believed the joint product was "on track to be ready for consumers in the first half of 2005."
Mr. Wu said he believed the phone would have both USB and Bluetooth connectivity to transfer music files, offer 12 to 24 song capacity, but offer no direct access to the iTunes music store.
"Like an iPod, we believe one still needs access to an iTunes on a PC client (Mac or Windows) to transfer files to the cell phone," he wrote.
The west coast analyst said he considered the venture a "win-win" for both companies.
"For Apple, this deal expands its iTunes footprint beyond PCs (Mac and Windows) and iPods into the cell phone space with Motorola one of the top cell phone manufacturers in the world. We also believe this gives Apple further differentiation versus its competitors in the digital music space and gives more users the iTunes/Mac "look and feel" experience and could help accelerate AAPL's sales."
Mr. Wu reiterated Apple shares as a 'buy' with a $78 price target. "We believe that the move to digital music is a multi-year trend that Apple is well-positioned to capitalize on, having arguably the industry's most powerful and complete stack of hardware, software, and service."
Eddy Cue, Apple's vice president of applications, told Forbes magazine Dec. 16 a joint venture with Motorola was "on schedule" for a 2005 debut, but gave no further details. Both companies announced a joint venture in July.
The Mac Observer: Daily Mac News, Reviews, and Tips. You'll Get Your Mac news Here From Now on. <a href=http://www.macobserver.com>http://www.MacObserver.com</a>
Copyright 2004 The Mac Observer, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
adzoox said:
I think large parts of the original iPod firmware and core electronics were designed by PortalPlayer, and then licensed to Apple.
The original Apple Laserwriter was built around a Canon-sourced printing engine, but the control boards, enclosure and software were all done by Apple in-house (the control boards were designed by Burrell Smith, who was also responsible for much of the board design of the original Macintosh).
From PCmag
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1749057,00.asp
Motorola Previews iTunes Phone
01.06.05
By*Matt Hicks, eWEEK
LAS VEGASA Motorola executive on Thursday previewed an upcoming mobile phone that can play music from Apple Computer Inc.'s iTunes store.
Speaking during a keynote at the International Consumer Electronics Show here, the executive demonstrated the phone, which in many ways mimics the iPod. It syncs with a computer and the iTunes Music Store like an iPod does, and incorporates the iPod interface for navigating and playing digital music, said Ron Garriques, a Motorola executive vice president.
The phone is the first of many Motorola devices that will support iTunes this year, said Garriques, also president of Motorola's personal devices business. He didn't provide product details for the phone or say when it would be available.
But the demo at CES bolsters rumors that an iTunes-compatible Motorola phone would be launched this month, possibly at the Macworld conference and expo that opens next week in San Francisco. Last month, an Apple executive revealed that the phone was due in the first half of 2005.
In July, Motorola announced a licensing deal with Apple to use iTunes in its phones.
Garriques cited the Apple partnership as an example of Motorola's push into what he called "seamless mobility 2.0." While mobile devices already are allowing consumers to communicate multiple ways and to take digital media with them, the next-generation products will bridge gaps between networks and devices so consumers can access their digital content anywhere and without interruptions.
"You'll know we hit 2.0 when the Internet is no longer visible and the PC is a peripheral," Garriques said.
In another demo, Garriques showed off a Motorola RFID tag that allows a consumer to continue to play a digital music or video file while moving between locations and devices. In the demo, a music video clip moved with him as he walked among an LCD TV, MP3 player, laptop computer and mobile phone.
The tag is part of Motorola's "Liquid Media" technology, and it is slated to be available later in 2005.
Also on display was a collection of Burton Snowboard apparel that incorporates wireless technology and digital media playback. Motorola had announced the products, which include a helmet, jacket and beanies, earlier in the day at CES.
Motorola chairman and CEO Ed Zander was originally schedule to deliver the CES keynote, but Garriques replaced him after Zander had to cancel.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1749057,00.asp
Motorola Previews iTunes Phone
01.06.05
By*Matt Hicks, eWEEK
LAS VEGASA Motorola executive on Thursday previewed an upcoming mobile phone that can play music from Apple Computer Inc.'s iTunes store.
Speaking during a keynote at the International Consumer Electronics Show here, the executive demonstrated the phone, which in many ways mimics the iPod. It syncs with a computer and the iTunes Music Store like an iPod does, and incorporates the iPod interface for navigating and playing digital music, said Ron Garriques, a Motorola executive vice president.
The phone is the first of many Motorola devices that will support iTunes this year, said Garriques, also president of Motorola's personal devices business. He didn't provide product details for the phone or say when it would be available.
But the demo at CES bolsters rumors that an iTunes-compatible Motorola phone would be launched this month, possibly at the Macworld conference and expo that opens next week in San Francisco. Last month, an Apple executive revealed that the phone was due in the first half of 2005.
In July, Motorola announced a licensing deal with Apple to use iTunes in its phones.
Garriques cited the Apple partnership as an example of Motorola's push into what he called "seamless mobility 2.0." While mobile devices already are allowing consumers to communicate multiple ways and to take digital media with them, the next-generation products will bridge gaps between networks and devices so consumers can access their digital content anywhere and without interruptions.
"You'll know we hit 2.0 when the Internet is no longer visible and the PC is a peripheral," Garriques said.
In another demo, Garriques showed off a Motorola RFID tag that allows a consumer to continue to play a digital music or video file while moving between locations and devices. In the demo, a music video clip moved with him as he walked among an LCD TV, MP3 player, laptop computer and mobile phone.
The tag is part of Motorola's "Liquid Media" technology, and it is slated to be available later in 2005.
Also on display was a collection of Burton Snowboard apparel that incorporates wireless technology and digital media playback. Motorola had announced the products, which include a helmet, jacket and beanies, earlier in the day at CES.
Motorola chairman and CEO Ed Zander was originally schedule to deliver the CES keynote, but Garriques replaced him after Zander had to cancel.