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Gavin actually runs a lab at his school. I do more of the network end of it when problems arise as my Eagle Scout project was installing wireless. They only use PCs there but they are running Windows 7 which is pretty good if you ask me.

My former middle/high school had some Macs, but mostly Windows PCs running Win 7; yeah, it wasn't too bad--perfectly fine in a school environment. My current high-school is huge... I just remembered that since a new building is going up, they are gonna do lots of computer work. It would be fun to see if I can work on that. Apparently they are putting in a couple new computer labs! But watch them be Windows PCs ;)
 
I'm already there. My Mac Pro 1,1 does the bulk of my Mac work every day. It far outstrips any G5 I've owned in terms of movie compression and that is something I value very much. Still, my remaining PPC Macs still have their uses and I'm fine with that. The G5 does movie encoding with subtitles, something the Mac Pro can't do as of yet, the MDD is my backup server, and the G4 466 is a testbed for certain concepts and ideas.

It IS a little impractical to have something like a Quad G5, where it can match performance in a newer Apple laptop, which uses much less space and electricity. However, performance and responsiveness are different. I would find even a G5 PowerMac to be more responsive than a newer Apple laptop. (newer as in a few years newer) I still use PowerPC Macs though. I got my first Intel Mac in 2012 or so, which is a 2009 base-model MacBook pro... I ended up retreating from it, but I cannot let it sit there. I am going to use it for that reason, but if I didn't have it, I would be fine. (other than three games I play that will not run on a PPC Mac). Unless you are someone who really does serious work and needs a new computer, a PowerPC Mac is okay. I am only but a student, and my computer doesn't require serious work done on it. There are a few drawbacks besides speed, but those are specific.
 
My former middle/high school had some Macs, but mostly Windows PCs running Win 7; yeah, it wasn't too bad--perfectly fine in a school environment. My current high-school is huge... I just remembered that since a new building is going up, they are gonna do lots of computer work. It would be fun to see if I can work on that. Apparently they are putting in a couple new computer labs! But watch them be Windows PCs ;)

Actually, I wouldn't mind running Windows 7 Professional on my MacBook Pro full time. When paired with good hardware, it is a great experience and it is excellent for schools. When you put it on something like a cheap Acer, you really don't get the effect that Microsoft makes the software for. The same way you don't really experience Windows 8.1 on most tablets in a good way until you try the Surface Pro. I love my Macs (pre-Yosemite) and I love Windows (Pre-Windows 8). Windows 10 and Yosemite seem promising, but I am not ready to use those while Windows 7 and Mavericks have great support.
 
Actually, I wouldn't mind running Windows 7 Professional on my MacBook Pro full time. When paired with good hardware, it is a great experience and it is excellent for schools. When you put it on something like a cheap Acer, you really don't get the effect that Microsoft makes the software for. The same way you don't really experience Windows 8.1 on most tablets in a good way until you try the Surface Pro. I love my Macs (pre-Yosemite) and I love Windows (Pre-Windows 8). Windows 10 and Yosemite seem promising, but I am not ready to use those while Windows 7 and Mavericks have great support.

I used to have a Windows 7 partition on my MacBook Pro for a game I played. It was much better than running Windows on a Windows PC, but Windows is STILl something on its own, even on Apple hardware. When you compare MacOSX by itself to Windows 7 by itself, the winner is still clear. I cannot get over how badly-programmed Windows is, as well as how insecure it is. In fact, I'd feel safer on Mac OS9 than any Windows OS.
 
I used to have a Windows 7 partition on my MacBook Pro for a game I played. It was much better than running Windows on a Windows PC, but Windows is STILl something on its own, even on Apple hardware. When you compare MacOSX by itself to Windows 7 by itself, the winner is still clear. I cannot get over how badly-programmed Windows is, as well as how insecure it is. In fact, I'd feel safer on Mac OS9 than any Windows OS.

I agree. Part of the problem is that they still use the registry which in my mind is a poor technology. The registry has been around since Windows 95 at least and that was a time when Windows was simply built on DOS. That is at least a 20 year old technology in present-day computers! While Windows 7 fixes most of the registry vulnerabilities, it is simply just a big keychain of values that takes just one to screw up a whole system. Apple did it right when they built OS X from the foundation off of UNIX and NeXT.
 
I agree. Part of the problem is that they still use the registry which in my mind is a poor technology. The registry has been around since Windows 95 at least and that was a time when Windows was simply built on DOS. That is at least a 20 year old technology in present-day computers! While Windows 7 fixes most of the registry vulnerabilities, it is simply just a big keychain of values that takes just one to screw up a whole system. Apple did it right when they built OS X from the foundation off of UNIX and NeXT.

The Registry came about with Windows 3.1, which was released in 1992.

For a while, there were two fundamental difference "classes" of Windows OSs-one of which was a shell which ran on top of DOS. All of the 1.x, 2.x, and 3.x versions of Windows were this way, as were Windows 95, 98, and ME. Of course, 95 and later were designed do boot directly to the GUI, while with 3.1 and earlier one would generally boot to DOS first and then load Windows(although there were ways to make DOS automatically load Windows on booting).

In any case, the "other" version of Windows was Windows NT, which was designed from the start as a multi-user OS with a bunch of other features which everyone expects today. The first version of NT was released in 1993-it went through a few numerical versions, ending up at NT 4.0. Windows 2000 was effectively NT 5.0, and all Windows versions released after XP(inclusive) have been based on Windows NT.

The first version I used extensively was 2000, which got a lot of hate at the time but I actually had pretty good luck with it. We still have one computer kicking around the lab(the one running our UV-VIS Spectrophotometer) that is running Windows 2000, and it continues to function well. It was(and is) miles ahead of Windows ME, which was released around the same time and was a disaster.
 
The Registry came about with Windows 3.1, which was released in 1992.

For a while, there were two fundamental difference "classes" of Windows OSs-one of which was a shell which ran on top of DOS. All of the 1.x, 2.x, and 3.x versions of Windows were this way, as were Windows 95, 98, and ME. Of course, 95 and later were designed do boot directly to the GUI, while with 3.1 and earlier one would generally boot to DOS first and then load Windows(although there were ways to make DOS automatically load Windows on booting).

In any case, the "other" version of Windows was Windows NT, which was designed from the start as a multi-user OS with a bunch of other features which everyone expects today. The first version of NT was released in 1993-it went through a few numerical versions, ending up at NT 4.0. Windows 2000 was effectively NT 5.0, and all Windows versions released after XP(inclusive) have been based on Windows NT.

The first version I used extensively was 2000, which got a lot of hate at the time but I actually had pretty good luck with it. We still have one computer kicking around the lab(the one running our UV-VIS Spectrophotometer) that is running Windows 2000, and it continues to function well. It was(and is) miles ahead of Windows ME, which was released around the same time and was a disaster.

Everyone regards ME as a failure of a release. In my mind, while it was a pig that needed to be reloaded most every month, it did bring forth some great advancements to Windows like some of the graphics improvements and System Restore. So it was more of a stepping stone for XP to be great. That being said, XP was met with some pretty harsh criticism until SP1 and more so SP2. A lot of people said that their DOS based programs which worked on 98 and ME no longer worked (due to the fact that XP was NT based) and that the UI was designed by Fisher Price. It is quite amazing how much of a difference updates improve things on OSs like XP.
 
Everyone regards ME as a failure of a release. In my mind, while it was a pig that needed to be reloaded most every month, it did bring forth some great advancements to Windows like some of the graphics improvements and System Restore. So it was more of a stepping stone for XP to be great. That being said, XP was met with some pretty harsh criticism until SP1 and more so SP2. A lot of people said that their DOS based programs which worked on 98 and ME no longer worked (due to the fact that XP was NT based) and that the UI was designed by Fisher Price. It is quite amazing how much of a difference updates improve things on OSs like XP.

I think that part of the problem with ME was that Microsoft tried to make it too
"NT like" when under the hood it really wasn't ready for that.

Contrast that with Windows 98, which I(and many others) used and were quite happy with, especially after SP2.

As I recall, ME came out after 2000, and despite the teething pains with 2000 trying to use ME definitely felt like a step backwards. At the time, my dad was an "Action Pack" subscriber, and he let me use his 2000 Beta install since he had zero interest in experimenting with it. As I mentioned, I was happy at the time.

I remember my first reaction to XP being disgust at the UI-like many folks. Fortunately, I discovered the "classic" theme that made it look like previous versions(i.e. gray task bar, square start button) and was happy with it from that point on. In fact, I used the "classic" theme all the way through a couple of XP computers, Vista, and was still using it when my Windows 7 laptop bit the dust(and caused me to go out and buy my first Mac-my Macbook Pro).
 
I think that part of the problem with ME was that Microsoft tried to make it too
"NT like" when under the hood it really wasn't ready for that.

Contrast that with Windows 98, which I(and many others) used and were quite happy with, especially after SP2.

As I recall, ME came out after 2000, and despite the teething pains with 2000 trying to use ME definitely felt like a step backwards. At the time, my dad was an "Action Pack" subscriber, and he let me use his 2000 Beta install since he had zero interest in experimenting with it. As I mentioned, I was happy at the time.

I remember my first reaction to XP being disgust at the UI-like many folks. Fortunately, I discovered the "classic" theme that made it look like previous versions(i.e. gray task bar, square start button) and was happy with it from that point on. In fact, I used the "classic" theme all the way through a couple of XP computers, Vista, and was still using it when my Windows 7 laptop bit the dust(and caused me to go out and buy my first Mac-my Macbook Pro).

Even as a child, I began on Windows 95 on a Packard Bell before I was age 5. My parents had a Dell Dimension 8200 with a 1.7 GHz Pentium 4 running XP that was in use until 2011 when the whole hard drive seized. Needless to say, I was quickly upgraded to an older HP Pavilion at age 6 that was designed for ME. My father put XP on it and I still recall playing 18 Wheels of Steel Across America and Matchbox Emergency Patrol on it. So I was essentially taught from the beginning on Windows XP. In fact, I hated Windows Vista/7 and the whole Aero theme when it came out and really loved the bright XP colors.

I didn't get into Macs until 7th grade when I started at a school which was going all Mac. The labs were 2008 iMacs, the teachers had 2010 Mac Minis attached to the Promethean boards, and the only PCs were their laptops (which have since been replaced). A local high school ended up giving my school a couple of iMac G3s in various speeds and three PowerMac G4s. I ended up getting the QuickSilver Dual 800 MHz to use as an image server as I was bringing home machines all the time and working on them in my room. I also ended up getting the final MDD ever made, the single 1.25. The iMacs were then given away to Goodwill or something along with the 400 MHz Sawtooth. I really wish I could have saved the Sawtooth too but it is in a good home now I am sure.

The MDD is a trouble maker that I can never seem to get the bugs ironed out of. First it would over heat and now the RAM slots are finicky. The latest issue is a power supply problem where it won't run when the door is shut. I just gave up on it and keep it as a collectors item. The QuickSilver still gets booted up every once in a while, and the G5 sees daily use for yearbook at my high school.
 
Even as a child, I began on Windows 95 on a Packard Bell before I was age 5. My parents had a Dell Dimension 8200 with a 1.7 GHz Pentium 4 running XP that was in use until 2011 when the whole hard drive seized. Needless to say, I was quickly upgraded to an older HP Pavilion at age 6 that was designed for ME. My father put XP on it and I still recall playing 18 Wheels of Steel Across America and Matchbox Emergency Patrol on it. So I was essentially taught from the beginning on Windows XP. In fact, I hated Windows Vista/7 and the whole Aero theme when it came out and really loved the bright XP colors.

I'm a few years older than you, but went through sort of the same progression of PCs. At the time, my dad ran a tax return business from home, and as a necessity through most of the 90s would upgrade his computer every couple of years.

The first computer I used was his first computer-a Tandy 1000 that he bought in the mid-80s. He had maxed it out with a full 640kb of RAM, dual floppy drives, an internal 30mb HDD, and even an internal modem(a business necessity for him to electronically file tax returns). The first computer I seriously used was his 386, passed down to me when he upgraded to a 486. The 386 too had been maxed out, with a math co-processor and 5mb(1mb in DIPPs, and the other 4mb as 4x1mb 30pin SIPPs) of RAM, a Sounblaster with an external CD-ROM drive, and a secondary internal 256mb HDD to supplement the factory 40mb. We later upgraded the RAM to a screaming 17mb by replacing the 1mb SIPPs with 4mb SIPPs.

In any case, the first computer I really seriously got into doing my own work on was an off-brand tower with a Cyrix 6x86 at 266mhz. I put a CD burner in it and had a couple of GB of disk space. My Windows 2000 experimenting was done on an AMD K6...

My first real exposure to Macs were when I was in high school. Our main computer lab had a room full of tray-loading iMac G3s, which were dated even at the time(2002-2006) and were notoriously unreliable. I think that they had at least been upgraded to OS 9, but still would randomly freeze or shutdown for no apparent reason-we were admonished to continuously save our work-something I'm still in the habit of these days. Those did not leave me with a positive impression of Macs. My experience in Journalism class, at least, was a bit better with using Pagemaker and Quark on a B&W G3 to do the layouts for the school newspaper.

In any case, I'm glad that I've "seen the light" and have been making up for lost time :) . My freshman year of college, my room mate had a new 15" Powerbook(what we now call the DLSD-HR) that I always admired. I was "plugged in" enough to know that the Intel transition was underway at the time(fall 2006) and had some discussion with him about his choice of the Powerbook over a Macbook Pro.

Having recently acquired an identical computer, I spent all of last week intentionally using it for "work stuff" and was impressed by how useable a late generation Powerbook still is. I didn't do anything too heavy duty, but put used it to put together my biweekly research presentation in Powerpoint(which also involved some pretty heavy use of Excel) and used it to give the presentation.

For the sake of comparison, I also dug out the laptop I bought for my freshman year of college-a Gateway running Windows XP(still). Although it will still boot and run, the Powerbook remains far more useable. Admittedly, though, the Gateway was $500 at the time and the Powerbook $2000. I actually quit using the Gateway in 2008 because it had become too slow to really accomplish anything on.

But, that's probably enough rambling about past computers I've used for the evening :)
 
It really is quite amazing that we can use an older architecture that has been out dated since 2009 (when Snow Leopard discontinued PowerPC support) but using PCs from the pre-Core Duo days is a pain aside from some high end P4s.
 
I agree. Part of the problem is that they still use the registry which in my mind is a poor technology. The registry has been around since Windows 95 at least and that was a time when Windows was simply built on DOS. That is at least a 20 year old technology in present-day computers! While Windows 7 fixes most of the registry vulnerabilities, it is simply just a big keychain of values that takes just one to screw up a whole system. Apple did it right when they built OS X from the foundation off of UNIX and NeXT.

Yeah, we really owe it to UNIX (+BSD) and NeXT... NeXT was the key for development of MacOSX--- It annoys me when people remark "Apple copied 'Linux' with MacOSX, such as with the dock". First of all, Linux isn't a single thing... second of all, none of them know what NeXT OS is. What an advanced OS, it's great that it worked out for Apple, although it sucked that NeXT didn't take the next step. Other than safety issues with Windows, nothing in it simply works, and things that do eventually work involve much more trouble than they needed to get working. Things are simpler in MacOSX, but in an efficient way, not in a way that is meant for stupid people... that is the point I cannot get across to diehard Windows fans. ;)
 
It isn't going to be a valuable collector's item by any means. That being said, we have a great community here who will be more than happy to get you up and running with that PowerMac. Surprisingly, a few of the members here are very active in our schools' IT departments like gavinstubbs09 and I.

I help provide support all 24 of our Macintosh systems at our school, and I'm still in 11th grade!
 
Wow! I would have never expected this thread to get so popular!!! Anyway, thanks for all the replies. I'm fine with it not being a collectors item and all, so I'll just hang on to it and keep it as a novelty. For the guy on the first page that said that one group would be happy to help set it up, that would be great to hear... I have not gotten it yet because the guy at my school hasn't given it to the tech coordinator to give to me. I have no clue what model it is, or what kind of condition it is in, but I will update and post when I get it and details about it.

Also, incase anyone was wondering, I'm a 9th grader (freshman). I've always been a tech fan. I have always been good using computers and learning how they work, inside and out. Ever since I was really young, I've loved computers. I used to crawl up my parent's condo stairs and start using our Windows 98 computer. I quickly learned how to do different things, like change the resolution, the background, how to start a program, how to take a disc out and put a new one in... All sorts of basic functions. Over time, I kept getting smarter and smarter, until a point where I could solve my parents', who weren't too technologically advanced, problems. In my elementary/middle school, I was able to solve nearly every problem a teacher was having. I even taught my computer teacher some new tricks. I was always told by the computer teacher and the tech coordinator that I had an amazing talent with computers and technology... Even today, in high school with more people like me, the tech coordinator/tech club manager says I have an amazing talent and unique.

Sorry about the length of that, kinda got carried away... But I always have and always will love technology, especially Apple products! ;)

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I'm a few years older than you, but went through sort of the same progression of PCs. At the time, my dad ran a tax return business from home, and as a necessity through most of the 90s would upgrade his computer every couple of years.

The first computer I used was his first computer-a Tandy 1000 that he bought in the mid-80s. He had maxed it out with a full 640kb of RAM, dual floppy drives, an internal 30mb HDD, and even an internal modem(a business necessity for him to electronically file tax returns). The first computer I seriously used was his 386, passed down to me when he upgraded to a 486. The 386 too had been maxed out, with a math co-processor and 5mb(1mb in DIPPs, and the other 4mb as 4x1mb 30pin SIPPs) of RAM, a Sounblaster with an external CD-ROM drive, and a secondary internal 256mb HDD to supplement the factory 40mb. We later upgraded the RAM to a screaming 17mb by replacing the 1mb SIPPs with 4mb SIPPs.

In any case, the first computer I really seriously got into doing my own work on was an off-brand tower with a Cyrix 6x86 at 266mhz. I put a CD burner in it and had a couple of GB of disk space. My Windows 2000 experimenting was done on an AMD K6...

My first real exposure to Macs were when I was in high school. Our main computer lab had a room full of tray-loading iMac G3s, which were dated even at the time(2002-2006) and were notoriously unreliable. I think that they had at least been upgraded to OS 9, but still would randomly freeze or shutdown for no apparent reason-we were admonished to continuously save our work-something I'm still in the habit of these days. Those did not leave me with a positive impression of Macs. My experience in Journalism class, at least, was a bit better with using Pagemaker and Quark on a B&W G3 to do the layouts for the school newspaper.

In any case, I'm glad that I've "seen the light" and have been making up for lost time :) . My freshman year of college, my room mate had a new 15" Powerbook(what we now call the DLSD-HR) that I always admired. I was "plugged in" enough to know that the Intel transition was underway at the time(fall 2006) and had some discussion with him about his choice of the Powerbook over a Macbook Pro.

Having recently acquired an identical computer, I spent all of last week intentionally using it for "work stuff" and was impressed by how useable a late generation Powerbook still is. I didn't do anything too heavy duty, but put used it to put together my biweekly research presentation in Powerpoint(which also involved some pretty heavy use of Excel) and used it to give the presentation.

For the sake of comparison, I also dug out the laptop I bought for my freshman year of college-a Gateway running Windows XP(still). Although it will still boot and run, the Powerbook remains far more useable. Admittedly, though, the Gateway was $500 at the time and the Powerbook $2000. I actually quit using the Gateway in 2008 because it had become too slow to really accomplish anything on.

But, that's probably enough rambling about past computers I've used for the evening :)

I was about 1 ½ or 2 and my first was a DELL XPS T500 with windows 98 SE. I still have that computer. Had to repair it once because the Pentium 3 processor blew out. Replaced it with a pentium 2 and worked fine. I also have a working DELL latitude LM running Windows 95 on a Pentium 1 with MMX. Then my family got a DELL dimension 4700 with XP and pentium 4. Then I personally got a MacBook Pro when I was 11. This year I got a HP Pavilion 500-C60 with AMD A6 and Windows 8.1.
 
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I'm currently in 12th grade and will graduate early in December (took college classes for enough credits) and during 10th grade I convinced the school to buy iMacs and during my summer I set them all up with no help. When I graduate in December I will work at the school officially in January. I turn 17 tomorrow!
 
I'm currently in 12th grade and will graduate early in December (took college classes for enough credits) and during 10th grade I convinced the school to buy iMacs and during my summer I set them all up with no help. When I graduate in December I will work at the school officially in January. I turn 17 tomorrow!

I convinced my elementary school to allow our TV station to have a macbook, a green screen, and a TelePrompTer, all at the age of 12.

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I turn 17 tomorrow!

Happy early birthday!
 
I am still a junior as well but work on PCs more than Macs.

On our computer club, our school mostly consists of Windows 7/ Windows 8 computers. We basically provide support for those systems and take parts from old Dells. One of my friends is attempting to build a Hackintosh out of a dell, idk what model though. Everyone got one of those. I happened to put TurnKey Linux on mine and run my Minecraft server off of it. There are 2 "modern macs" and like 10 PowerMac G4s in a biology teacher's room. I wish i could get my hands on one of those. I think he has an eMac as well :cool:
 
On our computer club, our school mostly consists of Windows 7/ Windows 8 computers. We basically provide support for those systems and take parts from old Dells. One of my friends is attempting to build a Hackintosh out of a dell, idk what model though. Everyone got one of those. I happened to put TurnKey Linux on mine and run my Minecraft server off of it. There are 2 "modern macs" and like 10 PowerMac G4s in a biology teacher's room. I wish i could get my hands on one of those. I think he has an eMac as well :cool:


It is quite amazing how many of us hold roles in school's IT.
 
It is quite amazing how many of us hold roles in school's IT.

Okay, I definitely gotta find a way to do so as well! xD Senior year would be a great time, as I would be more free. I am a junior and I have a large work load. That being said, I did mention that new build, which should have new computers. I pray they are Macs, but I doubt it... but hey, being Windows PCs, I am sure they will create actual work for me! I joined the e-waste club in hopes of secretly getting my hands on stuff, but It seems like it's just as effective to walk up to the bins during collection. Granted, it's nice access to events, so I need to remember to go to the meetings held once a week.
 
Okay, I definitely gotta find a way to do so as well! xD Senior year would be a great time, as I would be more free. I am a junior and I have a large work load. That being said, I did mention that new build, which should have new computers. I pray they are Macs, but I doubt it... but hey, being Windows PCs, I am sure they will create actual work for me! I joined the e-waste club in hopes of secretly getting my hands on stuff, but It seems like it's just as effective to walk up to the bins during collection. Granted, it's nice access to events, so I need to remember to go to the meetings held once a week.

You never know what you can get from e-waste bins.
 
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