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[PowerMac G4 MDD]

As a user of both I find neither to be easier / difficult than the other. Each has its strengths and each has its weaknesses. Both or solid operating systems.

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That doesn't answer the question.

Windows takes something that should be simple and just flips that logic around... Even something as simple and insignificant as adding a network printer to Windows is such a hassle compared to in OSX. In fact, I typed a whole document on my Mac, got ready to print it, and realized that no printers were set up on the machine... did I even need to type in the URL, or, let-alone open the printer prefs? No, I could add my printer in 10 seconds RIGHT from the 'NO PRINTER CONNECTED' dialogue box that came up in the first place! It's things such as that that Windows gets wrong... not to mention that the file management system in Windows is a joke; it is as if Windows scarfs-then-barfs your system files, or any file for that matter. The weaknesses of Windows outnumber those of MacOSX. (and don't get me started with how insecure Windows is, which I have previously mentioned).

 

[reco2011]

Windows takes something that should be simple and just flips that logic around... Even something as simple and insignificant as adding a network printer to Windows is such a hassle compared to in OSX. In fact, I typed a whole document on my Mac, got ready to print it, and realized that no printers were set up on the machine... did I even need to type in the URL, or, let-alone open the printer prefs? No, I could add my printer in 10 seconds RIGHT from the 'NO PRINTER CONNECTED' dialogue box that came up in the first place! It's things such as that that Windows gets wrong... not to mention that the file management system in Windows is a joke; it is as if Windows scarfs-then-barfs your system files, or any file for that matter. The weaknesses of Windows outnumber those of MacOSX. (and don't get me started with how insecure Windows is, which I have previously mentioned).

Please, explain how Winodows is insecure.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

Please, explain how Winodows is insecure.

For one, it is no question that Windows is easily penetrated by viruses. You could argue that that is true because more are made for Windows, but its level of security is low. (in fact, there was this trick with XP and older where you could easily log onto the system without a password. I need to ask my brother how he did that, but it was a loophole so stupid on MS's part). Windows LOVES to continue to store your passwords in PLAIN SITE in a random file, whereas MacOSX encrypts passwords. As for viruses or malware, you pretty much have to intentionally download any doubtfully-existent, malicious software and run it in order for a Mac to be affected. As for Windows, simply browsing the web can do harm. Another example is that Windows allows applications to modify system files and registry, while MacOS does not.

 

[reco2011]

For one, it is no question that Windows is easily penetrated by viruses

I stopped right here as I knew the rest wasn't worth reading.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

I stopped right here as I knew the rest wasn't worth reading.

Fine, if you are afraid to see my reasons for this, I will copy and paste them here in list format...

1. Windows LOVES to continue to store your passwords in PLAIN SITE, in a random file, whereas MacOSX encrypts passwords.

2. As for viruses or malware, you pretty much have to intentionally download malicious software and run it in order for a Mac to be affected. As for Windows, simply browsing the web can do harm.

3.Windows allows applications to modify system files and registry, while MacOS does not. That is how Windows can be infected so easily... it's not just that more people make viruses for Windows, it's that Windows is so insecure... And so, that's just another reason scammers target Windows.

 

[reco2011]

Fine, if you are afraid to see my reasons for this, I will copy and past them here in list format...

1. Windows LOVES to continue to store your passwords in PLAIN SITE, in a random file, whereas MacOSX encrypts passwords.

2. As for viruses or malware, you pretty much have to intentionally download malicious software and run it in order for a Mac to be affected. As for Windows, simply browsing the web can do harm.

3.Windows allows applications to modify system files and registry, while MacOS does not. That is how Windows can be infected so easily... it's not just that more people make viruses for Windows, it's that Windows is so insecure... And so, that's just another reason scammers target Windows.

You are completely unqualified to discuss this topic. My advice is to refrain from discussing subjects you are so unqualified to.

 

[Altemose]

You are completely unqualified to discuss this topic. My advice is to refrain from discussing subjects you are so unqualified to.

In your expert opinion, what is the plus side of the use of the Windows registry?

 

[reco2011]

In your expert opinion, what is the plus side of the use of the Windows registry?

Irrelevant. You said there are problems with it. I asked you what those problems are. So far you've provided no explanation to support your claim.

 

[Altemose]

Irrelevant. You said there are problems with it. I asked you what those problems are. So far you've provided no explanation to support your claim.

I am asking what pluses you see to the use of the registry in Windows. The reasons that I personally dislike the Windows registry is that it is an achilles heel of the whole OS. If there is any sort of corruption to the registry (which happens more often than you think), there is a grave risk of serious damage to the stability and reliability of Windows as a whole. The fact that it is a huge collection of keys and values makes it a prime target for malicious programmers (virus makers).

Just for the record, I do not dislike Windows by any fashion. I work on Windows 7 Professional most every day and actually ran it on my MBP for a while. I also have many Windows machines around running XP Professional, 7 Professional, and Windows 10 Preview.

 

[reco2011]

I am asking what pluses you see to the use of the registry in Windows. The reasons that I personally dislike the Windows registry is that it is an achilles heel of the whole OS. If there is any sort of corruption to the registry (which happens more often than you think), there is a grave risk of serious damage to the stability and reliability of Windows as a whole. The fact that it is a huge collection of keys and values makes it a prime target for malicious programmers (virus makers).

What you have described is not a weakness in the registry. Corruption can exist in many forms. The kernel could become corrupt. System configuration files, plain text or binary, can become corrupt. Bad entries can cause a system to fail to boot or be unstable. None of this is unique to the registry itself. In fact the registry is transactional in nature making corruption less likely than a flat text file.

As for the advantageous I am not arguing for (or against) the registry. I merely asked what you believe its faults are. So far you haven't provided anything specific to the registry.

There are billions of systems deployed with the registry. I imagine if there were any serious shortcomings they would have been identified by now. Problems with the registry are not common. You're likely to experience a hard drive failure before a registry failure. Programs putting bad data into the registry are likely to be more of a problem. But that's not a weakness of the registry itself. I could just as easily put bad entries into the "/etc/system" file on older Solaris systems and cause a failure to boot / unstable system.

 

[Gamer9430]

Ok... Forgot to write this earlier, but I didn't get a chance to find the computer somewhere in our large school, so I didn't get the model number. However, I will be bringing it home tomorrow because I have computer club. So once I'm on my way home, I'll post an update with what model, how much ram, what graffic's card is in it, and other stuff inside the computer. I also expect (and hope) that I get an apple keyboard and mouse with it. Also, I don't need it, but I wouldn't mind getting a nice monitor with it, lol. But all shal be answered tomorrow at around 3:30ish.

Also, does anyone have some popcorn, this Mac Vs. Windows fight is getting good.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

You are completely unqualified to discuss this topic. My advice is to refrain from discussing subjects you are so unqualified to.

Oh? Then to mimic what you asked me when I, earlier, explained concepts w/o giving reasons: Why is it that I am unqualified to discuss how insecure Windows is?

You haven't told me why it is that what I have just said is incorrect information. Do you not agree that Windows is extra-susceptible due to these faults? Do you not agree that these faults even exist? Do you doubt the fact that Windows allows its registry to be touched by ANY program? Do you doubt the fact that Windows doesn't really encrypt valuable passwords and instead stores them in plain site?

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Ok... Forgot to write this earlier, but I didn't get a chance to find the computer somewhere in our large school, so I didn't get the model number. However, I will be bringing it home tomorrow because I have computer club. So once I'm on my way home, I'll post an update with what model, how much ram, what graffic's card is in it, and other stuff inside the computer. I also expect (and hope) that I get an apple keyboard and mouse with it. Also, I don't need it, but I wouldn't mind getting a nice monitor with it, lol. But all shal be answered tomorrow at around 3:30ish.

Also, does anyone have some popcorn, this Mac Vs. Windows fight is getting good.

Would you like shards of glass with your popcorn? xD This argument sure is becoming a PANE.

 

[SuperPolli]

Maybe, But Probably Not

I think that while it could be a collector's item somewhere down the road it won't be all that great. Not as great for example as my iMac G3, or an original Macintosh, or a G4 Cube, to name a few. I do love old Macs (As a matter of fact I'm picking up an Early 2008 Black MacBook two days from now) and I've owned and still own multiple PowerPC Macs. However, I don't think that the PowerMac G5 has the cosmetic appeal to become a collector's item.

 

[Gamer9430]

I think that while it could be a collector's item somewhere down the road it won't be all that great. Not as great for example as my iMac G3, or an original Macintosh, or a G4 Cube, to name a few. I do love old Macs (As a matter of fact I'm picking up an Early 2008 Black MacBook two days from now) and I've owned and still own multiple PowerPC Macs. However, I don't think that the PowerMac G5 has the cosmetic appeal to become a collector's item.

Thank you very much!

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Would you like shards of glass with your popcorn? xD This argument sure is becoming a PANE.

I see what you did there, lol! I would join in, but I don't think I want to get CUT up in the cross-fire...

(Any one? No? Ok... )

 

[Gamer9430]

Finally!

I got it!!! It is a PowerMac G5 A1047 with the two G5 processors. Now i need support. How do I reset the passwords without having a setup disc? It is locked with a retired teacher's account and I can't get passed the login screen.

And damn, this thing is MASSIVE!

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ok... i found that it is running os x 10.4.11, and i think the battery might be dead because it thinks the time and date is December 31, 1969...

 

[Jessica Lares]

ok... i found that it is running os x 10.4.11, and i think the battery might be dead because it thinks the time and date is December 31, 1969...

That'll change once you connect it to wifi. Mine has that issue too.

 

[PowerMac G4 MDD]

Thank you very much!

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I see what you did there, lol! I would join in, but I don't think I want to get CUT up in the cross-fire...

(Any one? No? Ok... )

You should join in though! I am sure you could help us Win dows arguments up there. ^^^ Oh man, I got to stop doing this xD ...now let's see, control+alt+del... okay, let me fish through the list and find what it is I am supposed to stop.

 

[Gamer9430]

You should join in though! I am sure you could help us Win dows arguments up there. ^^^ Oh man, I got to stop doing this xD ...now let's see, control+alt+del... okay, let me fish through the list and find what it is I am supposed to stop.

lolololololol

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That'll change once you connect it to wifi. Mine has that issue too.

yes... it did fix it

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ok... so i made a user by making it run setup again... so i'm in the process of deleting the old users and then i'll see from there.

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oh and lastly, the model is PowerMac7,3 with 2 CPUs running at 2.3 Ghz, 2 GB of Memory, 232.89 GB HDD, ATI Raedon 9600, and strangely no AirPort Card...

 

[Altemose]

lolololololol

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yes... it did fix it

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ok... so i made a user by making it run setup again... so i'm in the process of deleting the old users and then i'll see from there.

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oh and lastly, the model is PowerMac7,3 with 2 CPUs running at 2.3 Ghz, 2 GB of Memory, 232.89 GB HDD, ATI Raedon 9600, and strangely no AirPort Card...

Unless there is a reason to really keep the existing install, I highly recommend you get a disk and wipe it fresh.

 

[Gamer9430]

Unless there is a reason to really keep the existing install, I highly recommend you get a disk and wipe it fresh.

where would i get a disc?

 

[Jessica Lares]

Just for the record, I have never had any problems with Windows. No viruses, spyware, etc. And when I did, it was because the hardware was going bad to begin with. I have more issues with my Macs. They get too hot, they don't respond, among other things.

I wouldn't expect an AirPort card. At least in my school we had just gotten T1 lines. Ethernet cables are a must because they give more control. The photo teacher was always disconnecting them because people weren't doing their work.

 

[Gamer9430]

Just for the record, I have never had any problems with Windows. No viruses, spyware, etc. And when I did, it was because the hardware was going bad to begin with. I have more issues with my Macs. They get too hot, they don't respond, among other things.

I wouldn't expect an AirPort card. At least in my school we had just gotten T1 lines. Ethernet cables are a must because they give more control. The photo teacher was always disconnecting them because people weren't doing their work.

do you know where i can get an AirPort card?

 

[bunnspecial]

Mac7,3 with 2 CPUs running at 2.3 Ghz, 2 GB of Memory, 232.89 GB HDD, ATI Raedon 9600, and strangely no AirPort Card...

Fortunately, the airport card is easy and cheap on those(it's a different story on the late '05s). You need an Airport Extreme card. The last one I bought was about $6 including shipping.

This is the one I bought

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131277916564?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

The difficult part is that you need an external antenna-these are expensive and not so easy to find. I made do by shoving a piece of 24 gauge wire in the antenna port(some folks use a safety pin or other similar arrangement).

I'd look into at least doubling the memory. You should have 8 slots, so can get a good amount of memory even using the relatively inexpensive 512mb sticks. Just be sure your memory sticks are always paired.

Depending on what the specs of the HDD currently in it are, you may benefit from a newer 7200rpm drive. I'd certainly look into at least popping a second drive in it.

 

[Jessica Lares]

do you know where i can get an AirPort card?

eBay is your best bet.

Sometimes you won't need an antenna. I did fine without one anyway.

 

[Gamer9430]

Fortunately, the airport card is easy and cheap on those(it's a different story on the late '05s). You need an Airport Extreme card. The last one I bought was about $6 including shipping.

This is the one I bought

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131277916564?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

The difficult part is that you need an external antenna-these are expensive and not so easy to find. I made do by shoving a piece of 24 gauge wire in the antenna port(some folks use a safety pin or other similar arrangement).

I'd look into at least doubling the memory. You should have 8 slots, so can get a good amount of memory even using the relatively inexpensive 512mb sticks. Just be sure your memory sticks are always paired.

Depending on what the specs of the HDD currently in it are, you may benefit from a newer 7200rpm drive. I'd certainly look into at least popping a second drive in it.

Thanks! Also, I put in 2 256mb cards that i had lying around. I'll most likely buy the airport card, and i definitely need a new hard drive, this one is WAYYYY TOO LLLLOOOOOUUUUDDDD! I get that its about to be 10 years old, but it needs a new one. I'll try and get it from my tech coordinator and put it in.