Getting the Asus EEE Transformer over the iPad 2.

[mcdj]

Every few days it's the same story...

"I returned the iPad for the Motorizmus Zombio Plus Intense!".

"iPad killer is here! BFD PADIMUS PRIME! It runs Sherbert and has Flash ads for wallpaper!"

A week later, those people often come back to post they returned the doodad of the hour and bought another iPad. But by then a whole new crop of Robocop OS toys come out, each purported to be better than last week's crop.

Eventually 90% of them will be forgotten, like so many pebbles bouncing off the windshield of the Mack truck that is the iPad.

Not even a giant fanboy here, just an observer.

 

[qtx43]

One thing I keep noticing is that Android Market has a decidedly Cydia-like feel to it. A ton of system utilities there.

Actually, that kind of surprises me. While Android will obviously get most of the anti-apple people who want to tweak it, I'd still think they'd be swamped by the number of people who just use it as a phone, and download a few real applications.

 

[WoodrowCall]

Actually, that kind of surprises me. While Android will obviously get most of the anti-apple people who want to tweak it, I'd still think they'd be swamped by the number of people who just use it as a phone, and download a few real applications.

It seems like most of the great Apps for Android are illegal or infringing on copyrights. I just hung out with a friend of mine who has a Xoom, and his favorite apps were a TV-streaming app (unlicensed) and a wifi app for his rooted Droid X. That's great for him, but I don't see the mass market appeal for that kind of thing. To me, I want my device to work...without rooting it, granting superuser permissions, and without a super-laggy homescreen with a bunch of stupid widgets that just drain the battery.

 

[62tele]

I am thinking of buying a Commodore 64.

 

[chiefpavvy]

Enjoy the vast numbers of native Apps available

What are they up to now, 12?

 

[fertilized-egg]

but I don't see the mass market appeal for that kind of thing.

Depends on which mass market you are referring to. A good example is DivX. Look at the list of DivX certified phones here: http://www.divx.com/en/electronics/categories/mobile-phones

You'll see the vasy majority of DivX cetified phones are from the Korean makers such as LG, Samsung and Sky. It is mainly because the mass Korean market is run amok with pirated DivX movies and TV shows. A regular Korean consumer is much more likely to download a illegally distributed Divx movie of questionable copyright from a cloud disk service than buying it legally. Thus the Korean manufacturers have adapted their product strategy accordingly.

To me, I want my device to work...without rooting it, granting superuser permissions, and without a super-laggy homescreen with a bunch of stupid widgets that just drain the battery.

One thing I just thought of is how OSX has a separate blind screen dedicated to widgets. Perhaps that could be something that can satisfy the widget naysayers and widget supporters. (personally i never use widgets on my mobile devices)

 

[DeathChill]

I know it's off-topic, but man does every Android device maker need to work on how to show off their products in stores.

I went to look at the Xoom and noticed the Nexus S and Atrix, so I stopped to take a look. Both had an animated background on that made switching between home screens take a small lag hit. That's just silly to present your product in a way that makes it seem like that.

The Xoom suffered from the same fate as both the Nexus S and Atrix in regards to the background. However, the annoying thing is that they don't preload it with any applications to actually test anything. The iPad and iPhone both contain loads of applications to play with, which helps you see why the platform is so interesting. When I played with the phones and Xoom I found nothing to do besides check out how Flash worked on the Xoom (it worked choppily on one site, I tried Canabalt but I couldn't figure out how to make the keyboard come out to actually start the game).

 

[MrWillie]

I am thinking of buying a Commodore 64.

Yea, me too!

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx

Been watching that sight for a while, and it's finally here. C64 with a terabyte hard drive.

 

[lilcosco08]

Your point was that you are trolling on a board dedicated to users of a device you apparently hate because you have nothing better to waste your time on?

Since when is comparing 2 devices trolling? When did he say he hated the iPad? Quit getting so defensive and move on. Geez.

Some people need to stop drinking the kool aid

 

[Homertherat]

Since when is comparing 2 devices trolling? When did he say he hated the iPad? Quit getting so defensive and move on. Geez.

Some people need to stop drinking the kool aid

Seems to me that the OP wasn't trying to compare the 2 at all, but more of an "In your face, I'm getting this". Some of his later comments led me to believe that he was trolling.

Perhaps he wasn't trolling, but he's not doing a very good job of discussing if that is indeed his purpose.

 

[TheWheelMan]

It seems like most of the great Apps for Android are illegal or infringing on copyrights. I just hung out with a friend of mine who has a Xoom, and his favorite apps were a TV-streaming app (unlicensed) and a wifi app for his rooted Droid X. That's great for him, but I don't see the mass market appeal for that kind of thing. To me, I want my device to work...without rooting it, granting superuser permissions, and without a super-laggy homescreen with a bunch of stupid widgets that just drain the battery.

That's the problem with an open source OS, and why it'll never get the same kind of support as "canned" OS's like iOS, Windows, etc. Open source OS's are for hardware geeks and hackers who want to have ultimate control over their devices and do whatever they want with them. They will never have the best UI for the average user (proven over and over again), they will never work smoothly on the cross-platform lineup of devices (too generically structured), and they will never provide the kind of security and control over media that all the major media producers will want. People can hate on the iOS App Store all they want, but at least when you download an app from Apple, you can at least expect it to be safe (and legal) to run. No one is really certifying Android apps, unless I'm not understanding correctly?

 

[fertilized-egg]

Seems to me that the OP wasn't trying to compare the 2 at all, but more of an "In your face, I'm getting this". Some of his later comments led me to believe that he was trolling.

Perhaps he wasn't trolling, but he's not doing a very good job of discussing if that is indeed his purpose.

That is the problem with threads like this. More often than not, eventually it degenerates into "all you Apple koolaid drinkers are so defensive" type of mockery and this forum still is a Apple fan forum mostly so one expect people to be defensive about Apple products and it just becomes a huge flame war. This is why I keep thinking we should really have a separate subforum dedicated to that kind of comparison war.

 

[Alaerian]

I don't get why it's so damn hard for people to not degenerate every conversation into a "my toys are better than your toys" argument. If I want a iPad, fine! If you want a Xoom, fine! Who the hell cares what everyone else uses as long as they're happy and it works?

Seriously, people. Do you not have better things to do than this crap?

 

[qtx43]

I don't get why it's so damn hard for people to not degenerate every conversation into a "my toys are better than your toys" argument. If I want a iPad, fine! If you want a Xoom, fine! Who the hell cares what everyone else uses as long as they're happy and it works?

Seriously, people. Do you not have better things to do than this crap?

Since "my toys are better than your toys" was the whole premise of this thread, there was no degenerating going on. Personally I looked to see if there was somebody had a good reason for liking the Transformer, but instead found a guy who is becoming addicted to getting multiple new tablets and whose sig calls apple fanboys nazis. If I feel like responding, I will; Maybe you would have ignored the thread... oh wait, you didn't. Seriously, don't have have better things to do than tell me what I'm allowed to comment on?