My friend here is the stupid part. If your Corvette has a gas engine you get CarPlay. If it is electric then you don’t. Makes zero sense.
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GM Admits No Technical Reason CarPlay Couldn't Be in Future EVs
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My friend here is the stupid part. If your Corvette has a gas engine you get CarPlay. If it is electric then you don’t. Makes zero sense.
I agree.
I read an article recently that said GM estimates it will generate about $2B from subscriptions and services revenue. Apple generates over $80B from subscriptions and services.
Personally I don't see much difference between the two. Both companies want to generate additional revenue from their hardware customers and both do it via intentional technology roadblocks. Apple has tied iOS to the App Store in order to take a cut. There's no reason iOS can't be open like Android, Windows, macOS, etc. Locking it down was a decision on Apple's part in order to generate revenue. GM's decision is no different.
Personally I hate CarPlay, mostly because of the garbage Music interface. Search sucks. It's so much easier/faster to just grab my phone and find what I want to play.
Nope. The most expensive brand at GM is Cadillac. They have worked very hard to get their average customer age to go down, way down. And they have an internal study that shows that Cadillac customers have iPhones. 98 percent of them do.
I refused to consider Toyota as a possible replacement vehicle when they didn't offer CarPlay. I probably would have considered a 4Runner rather than holding on to my older car. We did just get my wife a new RAV4 Hybrid, but they also now support wireless CarPlay and we use it constantly.
I won't even look at a car without CarPlay at this point. I trust my phone a lot more than any built in system and I can pick and choose which mapping solution I want to use. It's gotten better but for rural addresses with a specific formatting Google Maps used to be useless, it just dropped you in the dead center of the road. I had to manually add all of my family's addresses to Google Maps so they could be found. Apple Maps knew how to find them from launch. Yes, there are still errors with Apple Maps, but it's getting better constantly and they're easy to report.
Slightly unrelated, but these all-screen UX (ESPECIALLY for HVAC controls) are a safety nightmare. Our company’s 2023 Ford Transit has all HVAC controls on screen and it’s such a safety hazard while in motion. The modal full screen graphics for the sake of full screen graphics when they could just be singular icons on screen are dangerous choices for the sake of pretty.
I will not be buying a vehicle without physical HVAC controls (nor without CarPlay).
I will not be buying a vehicle without physical HVAC controls (nor without CarPlay).
The more affluent purchase Apple devices, value privacy, and could less and freebie Android phones.
Apple doesn't charge manufacturers to include CarPlay.
Car I would never buy just got further down my never buy list.
Only because Tesla is pretty good at software, and consistent updates/improvements. GM gonna have to prove themselves here, and they have a tall hill to climb.
As the owner of 3 BMWs with CarPlay, I used to think this too. But then I spent a few years without it, driving my Tesla. But then, recently a week with a Toyota that had CarPlay. The 'going back' part was almost shocking.
I don't miss it. On a whole, it's a bit too "Fischer Price" for my liking. You can't pinch to zoom the map in the same way you can with an iPad's Maps app, or even Tesla's map. It is also rather limited in what you can choose to display, since it 'takes over' the entire UI. Don't get me wrong, I love Apple stuff and their software. But it's not the be-all, end-all. Especially since Tesla integrated Apple Music, and their messaging notification works just as well as CarPlay iMessage. After using both, I struggle to find an area where CarPlay is consistently better. Especially if you have a 7" CarPlay map vs. a 15" Tesla map with satellite overlay. Big difference in usability.
We should be clear about one thing. The Google system that GM uses is exactly the same one used in Volvo cars. Volvo has CarPlay.
Only car I would buy without CarPlay is a Tesla just due to its charging network. I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla does include CarPlay in future updates.
Once we figure out the next major advance in battery technology .... which is taking forever....Tesla may very well become the largest car manufacturer in the world and Americas legacy brands probably die. Once we have the next battery Ford is going to only make trucks, and most will stop making unprofitable cars they only currently do for govt regulations. Right now EV big vehicles suck because once you load them up or tow battery life is a joke. So if you want and EV ... why buy some massive Escalade laden with legacy designs?
If you ever find yourself asking "why would a company...?" the answer is always: money.
User experience is a pretty weak argument, regular users will want CarPlay or Android Auto so the user experience is.. poor.
User experience is a pretty weak argument, regular users will want CarPlay or Android Auto so the user experience is.. poor.
Unless I'm absolutely married to a car brand, I totally would not buy a car for lack of CarPlay.
After many painful years without it, Teslas now have the Apple Music app. While not quite CarPlay, it goes a long way.
Soon we'll have to pay NOT to see ads in the car.
Not looking at GM anyway. This just makes my decision that much more easy.
Having Car play is one of the deciding factors for me. I would like it to be there.
Even if they add it....That's just what I want. A car that sends all of my data to Google. No thanks.
Tesla is grossly overvalued and is unlikely to be putting anyone out of business. Heck, they may find themselves out of businesses.
Yeah, the “next-gen” CarPlay stuff enables communication with lots of other sensors/systems in the car, but communicating EV charge level specifically has been available to manufacturers for at least a year or 2 already. It’s frustrating that only Ford takes advantage of the API. I think I heard that BMW is going to any day now, but I might be misremembering.
My Hyundai Ioniq 5 has wired CarPlay only for some reason, which is kind of annoying, but I can live with it. For short trips when I don’t feel like fiddling with a cable I can still use Bluetooth & Siri for music/calls. But my big wishlist item for its future software updates is that they transmit battery info via the standard CarPlay APIs so that any routing app can use it without a weird OBDII dongle.
No Commodore 64 integration?!?! Forget it..
