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GM Says It's Nixing CarPlay to Make Drivers Safer
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At least be upfront about your reasoning, GM. Just come out and say it’s a money thing and to get more data out of your customers.
Hope your deposit wasn't too many hundreds. No dealer will accept an order without one.
Is this not just going to be “Android Automotive” (which is different from Android Auto…because reasons)? That’s what I had read previously. But I haven’t heard anything about Android Automotive lately, so maybe they nixed the name (too close to their other offering IMHO)? Or killed the project entirely?
And as for keeping their drivers safer, I can’t WAIT for, “You’re drifting into another lane. I can tell you which one for the low price of $99.99 a month, with several other bundles and options available, including…” as you’re trying to drive.
And as for keeping their drivers safer, I can’t WAIT for, “You’re drifting into another lane. I can tell you which one for the low price of $99.99 a month, with several other bundles and options available, including…” as you’re trying to drive.
It's difficult to claim it's a safety move if it is restricted to EVs only.
The simple solution is to not buy an EV, but that seems to be taking care of itself since GM has 92,000 of them sitting in lots that the cannot sell.
I know people are mad about GM nixing CarPlay, but it simply is not true that GM is struggling.
While I think most of GMs reasoning is absolute garbage... I will say I hate that Apple locks you out of the keypad while you're in a call and the car is moving. This forces you to pull your phone out and dial numbers on the phone itself if you're trying to navigate an IVR.
I appreciate when companies simplify my purchasing options. Within a year I’ll have to replace my car. All GM options won’t need to be considered. Thanks GM! [Saying this as a current owner of a GM vehicle. Not by choice, it was a hand-me-down.]
don't think I need any GM car that would not have CarPlay. its easier for me to have my phone work nicely with the car. if they think this is a good idea... lets see when they lose thousands of sales.
I hope you let him know that reason why. Let them take that back to their GM reps and pass the feedback up the chain. Canceled orders for new vehicles will be the one thing that might actually change their plan to discontinue CarPlay — after all, money talks.
Prior to the announcement earlier this year, I was hoping we’d finally get CarKey support from GM in a couple more years. This change is also upending my plans to replace my ICE in the next few years. I’m not sure what I’m going to do, but I won’t be buying any vehicle with Google spyware embedded, let alone no CarPlay.
" The map (with satellite of course) is ahead of CarPlay," I use Google Maps with CarPlay and they have satellite view. Use it all the time.
Yeah but that means you're using Google Maps. Which not everyone is comfortable relying upon.
They already used Android Automotive for years, and spoiler alert, it had Carplay and Android Auto (not to be confused with Android Automotive, different systems of course) built in. And another spoiler, their ICE cars will have Carplay and Android Auto, nothing’s changed for them. They claim they will phase out ICE cars by 2035 though so Carplay and Android Auto should be done by then. Except they aren’t meeting EV sales goals already so…
(Android Automotive is an operating system, eg like iOS or MacOS, while Android Auto is a screen projection software for Android like Carplay).
But they claim for EVs they will have a modified version of Android Automotive called Ultifi. They say they are working with Google to build and improve the new system. The main claim to fame is the EV routing feature which is important in EVs, that said plenty of EVs have Carplay and it doesn’t detract from the experience. They just want to extract more revenue from drivers, because you’d be tempted to not pay subscription money if you just used your phone, and tons of EV drivers aren’t even going to use EV routing if they don’t go on long road trips and don’t need to efficiently route through fast chargers.
As for driver assistance and paywalling, that’s not going to happen, the safety systems are included and don’t need subscriptions, but Supercruise does after 3 years (Supercruise being GM’s version of Tesla’s Autopilot), and you pay extra for Supercruise in the first place.
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I think Mary Barra and Co. are lying again.
If true, Mary Barra and Co. think their customers are stupid enough to believe this.
IMHO it is about improving their monetization of media services and customer tracking.
Lying to and insulting customers is hardly the path to customer loyalty.
New GM is very much like old GM.
If true, Mary Barra and Co. think their customers are stupid enough to believe this.
IMHO it is about improving their monetization of media services and customer tracking.
Lying to and insulting customers is hardly the path to customer loyalty.
New GM is very much like old GM.
Taking carplay away so I can use my phone in my hand won't make it more unsafe. GM you are full of it and our government better not bail them out ten years from now for GM poor business decision.
In other words, they couldn’t figure out how to make their system usable so they’re getting rid of it. In the process, they’re getting a rid of a lot of potential buyers, including me. I gave up on Toyota years ago when they insisted on keeping their disaster of an infotainment system. Maybe that’s changed by now. My wife’s Mini has a usable, if somewhat unintuitive system. Love the wireless CarPlay.
