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GM to Remove CarPlay from All Future Vehicles, Including Gas Cars [Updated]

This is particularly funny, because I used to own a Chevy Volt and largely loved the vehicle, but I hated the infotainment system so much I swore I would never buy another vehicle without CarPlay to fall back on.

That opinion has not changed—no CarPlay, no sale. Period—I do not trust any car maker to maintain their software to a reasonable degree in the long term, the computer driving it WILL eventually be archaic long before the rest of the car is, and their maps are guaranteed to be worse than what Apple or Google can put on the same screen.
 
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Downundermac said:
Yawn. Used to be a GM guy and have owned a couple of rusty Fords, but the heyday of US and European automobile makers is over. Late model grey import JDM Toyota’s and aftermarket Apple CarPlay units suit our household budget perfectly. The model names sometimes vary according to region, but they are generally extremely reliable, and the parts chain is global and plentiful.
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Except for the CarPlay reference, your post seems straight out of the 1980s. The more things change, the more they stay the same…
 
Hey GM ... you almost had me with the Lyriq and Optiq.
No CarPlay guarantees I'll never buy one.

Anderson, you're no Steve Jobs. I don't give a crap if your apps are "better" and more "immersive." I need to access my phone and the data on it while I drive. You're cutting me off from that, so your cars are a complete non-starter.
 
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alexjohnson said:
No to what? Why it's selling? It is built on the same platform: this is not a secret.
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No in that it's not a re-badge of the same vehicle. Re-badging the same vehicle was popular in the 90s and 00s, for example, Dodge/Mitsubishi, Ford/Mazda, Isuzu/Honda, Chrysler/Mitsubishi.

Other than the battery and some powertrains being the same, your article states clearly that they're not the same manufacturer, the frames are different, they share no exterior body panels, and the interiors are completely different.
 
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imlynxy said:
... any car, but not audi please, reliability sucks, just got rid of two junks and got 2 Lexuses
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Hard to say. I’ve had good luck with my Audi that I bought 2 years ago to replace an aging Honda. I had 2 VWs before the Honda. The first was unreliable while the second was bulletproof.
 
triptolemus said:
No in that it's not a re-badge of the same vehicle. Re-badging the same vehicle was popular in the 90s and 00s, for example, Dodge/Mitsubishi, Ford/Mazda, Isuzu/Honda, Chrysler/Mitsubishi.

Other than the battery and some powertrains being the same, your article states clearly that they're not the same manufacturer, the frames are different, they share no exterior body panels, and the interiors are completely different.
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Yes. Rebadging was common in the 1980s and 1990s. Ford Taurus and Mercury Sable were virtually identical, for instance. Same with the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Firebird.

Same platforms is different. The Audi Q3 shares a platform with the VW Tiguan but they are distinct vehicles with different bodies and transmissions.
 
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triptolemus said:
No in that it's not a re-badge of the same vehicle. Re-badging the same vehicle was popular in the 90s and 00s, for example, Dodge/Mitsubishi, Ford/Mazda, Isuzu/Honda, Chrysler/Mitsubishi.

Other than the battery and some powertrains being the same, your article states clearly that they're not the same manufacturer, the frames are different, they share no exterior body panels, and the interiors are completely different.
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Because it's not the 90s. "Rebadged" is perhaps not to be taken literally, but your point "other than the battery and powertrains…": I mean…!

But fine, the chrome is different, and maybe (?) that's material in the same way that some people are really invested in Kia vs. Hyundai, or even GMC vs. Chevy. I am not invested in the answer, but I think a casual reader would relate to "rebadged" and not just think Holden vs. Chevy or Vauxhall vs. Opel or the other things where the badges on the front and steering wheel are the only differences: but that's because car plants have somewhat moved on!
 
KPOM said:
Yes. Rebadging was common in the 1980s and 1990s. Ford Taurus and Mercury Sable were virtually identical, for instance. Same with the Chevy Cavalier and Pontiac Firebird.

Same platforms is different. The Audi Q3 shares a platform with the VW Tiguan but they are distinct vehicles with different bodies and transmissions.
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…but the examples are not. They have the same battery and powertrain. They pull the same bhp. I get your point and it is not literally the case of a rebadge, but the driving experience is going to be as near as dammit identical. YMMV! (Except it won't between these vehicles! :) )
 
jaytv111 said:
They have Bluetooth and if you’ve used Bluetooth in a car with an iPhone before it’s the same as that.

Which means you can see messages, you can compose messages, but it might also be buggy and flake out. You can also use Siri to dictate messages but Siri may also suck, lol. And for your app, you start it and control it on your phone or you use the playback controls (play/pause/next/previous). Sometimes they have the track name which may tell you what lesson you’re on if the app does it properly. Or it might not.

I mean, it works, maybe if Siri is good enough it won’t be a huge degradation (so that kind of falls on Apple for Siri not being too great), but Carplay has always allowed a better app experience (more control, ability to see versus just dictate, etc). It sucks to lose that.
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That's a very fair answer. Based on your response, we can expect GM cars to have some integration with our phones, but in a way that is probably inferior to the more direct experience CarPlay provides, and which may involve interacting directly with the phone while driving to achieve particular tasks. Doesn't sound like GM is pushing a great experience.
 
I'll just add a big NOPE. Just wait for GM AI.

Eventually the car will write its own police report in an accident, erratic driving, sudden stops, starts, didn't use blinker and changed lane, etc., etc. That should be fun. As a good driver that doesn't bug me... but man I see some pissed off people when their pickup truck tells on them.
 
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andiwm2003 said:
I hate Carplay in my Jeep. It's intrusive and i don't use it. But as soon as a passenger plugs in their iPhone it starts automatically with carplay and plays their music. If I mute the music then every time the passenger swips or touches the screen it unmutes and starts playing music again. WTF? Carplay is totally useless, has not a sing;le feature I ever use and I still can't deactivate it for good. Apple is great on hardware and the OS, but they should
stay away from software solutions please.
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You can buy a charging only cable that will not activate CarPlay.
 
Get used to it, folks. Once one domino drops, the rest are going with it. CarPlay is on borrowed time. Why would automakers keep supporting it, out of charity? Apple’s not paying them a dime. And spare me the dramatic threats from the MacRumors die-hards who swear they’ll “never buy a car without CarPlay.” Automakers won’t even notice you’re gone. The other 99.9% of consumers don’t care who makes the interface if it lights up, plays music, and looks shiny, they’re happy.
 
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