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GM to Remove CarPlay from All Future Vehicles, Including Gas Cars [Updated]
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I think they can monetize this -- aside from the subscription fees they plan to charge after 5 years. Looking not that far in the future, as the cars become more self driving, the passengers will be a captured audience for ads and consumption. GM wants to isolate the passengers from any competition while they are in the car. Imagine if you have sole access to consumers for ~40 minutes per day, while they are separated from being able to go anywhere or engage in any other media.
There is nothing in the CarPlay except while streaming Music it categorises the tracks conveniently. This is not a big thing but Car companies are made to pay very heavy licensing fee for Apple which is why one after the other leaving Car Play. People won’t be able to see CarPlay in most of the cars sooner or later.
You know what's funny, pages of pages of people stating they'll not buy a car that doesn't have carplay, when I'd say imo, most of the car buying public that isn't part of MacRumors, won't care. Someone who needs a car, is going to buy the brand they trust most, and not base it on whether their iPhone automatically connects and uses apple apps.
Second point, car manufactoreres are more and more relying on data collection as a revenue source, so its not surprising more and more companies are leaving apple behind
Second point, car manufactoreres are more and more relying on data collection as a revenue source, so its not surprising more and more companies are leaving apple behind
Apple should just buy GM lock stock and barrel and dump this crappy new infotainment system. Total market cap is only $65B. Much less than what Apple has already spent on developing the non-existent Apple Car.
General Motors began phasing out support for CarPlay in its electric vehicles back in 2023, leading to complaints from iPhone users, but the company has no plans to back down.
In fact, GM is going further and plans to remove CarPlay from all future gas vehicles, too. In an interview with The Verge, GM CEO Mary Barra said that the company opted to prioritize its platform for EVs, but the change will eventually expand across the entire GM portfolio.
When asked if users should expect that new gas cars will not support "smartphone projection" for CarPlay or Android Auto, Barra said "I think that's the right expectation. Yes."
GM Chief Product Officer Sterling Anderson suggested that GM's decision to embrace its own system is a "very Jobsian approach to things" that he likened to phasing out the disk drive.
Anderson said that GM's in-house infotainment option offers a "much more immersive environment" and can "do so many more things" than CarPlay.
In EVs, General Motors transitioned to an infotainment system that it previously called "Ultifi." GM said that eliminating Apple CarPlay gave it access to direct integrations and information that it needed for its electric vehicle line, plus the company claimed that an in-house unified solution was the better option for consumers.
Starting with the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ, GM is rolling out a centralized vehicle computing system that it says will overhaul how GM vehicles are built and how they can be updated over time. GM will share software across its portfolio, including all electric and gas-powered vehicles produced by its GMC, Chevrolet, Buick, and Cadillac brands.
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Personally I would never consider buying a GM, irrespective of whether the vehicle offered CarPlay. But I also wouldn't denigrate someone that would...because why would I care which car someone else wants to drive?
CarPlay has always been an optional interface that the consumer is free to completely disregard, and carmakers always offer their own interface as primary . . . so it's not entirely obvious to me how it is apparently the anti-"sheep" who would applaud a carmaker's efforts to deny customers that choice in order to essentially force them into using their proprietary interface.
No, they don't want you use systems they can't get your data or sell you subs.
Making a better entertainment system than Apple does is for sure possible. Do I trust GM to do it? Nope.
I’ll be removing GM from my next car shopping list.
General Motors began phasing out support for CarPlay in its electric vehicles back in 2023, leading to complaints from iPhone users, but the company has no plans to back down.
In fact, GM is going further and plans to remove CarPlay from all future gas vehicles, too. In an interview with The Verge, GM CEO Mary Barra said that the company opted to prioritize its platform for EVs, but the change will eventually expand across the entire GM portfolio.
When asked if users should expect that new gas cars will not support "smartphone projection" for CarPlay or Android Auto, Barra said "I think that's the right expectation. Yes."
GM Chief Product Officer Sterling Anderson suggested that GM's decision to embrace its own system is a "very Jobsian approach to things" that he likened to phasing out the disk drive.
Anderson said that GM's in-house infotainment option offers a "much more immersive environment" and can "do so many more things" than CarPlay.
In EVs, General Motors transitioned to an infotainment system that it previously called "Ultifi." GM said that eliminating Apple CarPlay gave it access to direct integrations and information that it needed for its electric vehicle line, plus the company claimed that an in-house unified solution was the better option for consumers.
Starting with the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ, GM is rolling out a centralized vehicle computing system that it says will overhaul how GM vehicles are built and how they can be updated over time. GM will share software across its portfolio, including all electric and gas-powered vehicles produced by its GMC, Chevrolet, Buick, and Cadillac brands.
Article Link: GM to Remove CarPlay from All Future Vehicles, Including Gas Cars
This is why.
I own a Chevy, and the amount services behind the a subscription is surprising. This is for a 2021 truck, I believe there's even more locked behind a paywall in newer trucks. There's also been articles in how car manufacturers are using data collection to supplement their income
This post won’t get many upvotes here, but is probably the most logical take on this thread.
I expect a car to be around for many years, so I think regular CarPlay (and Android Auto) should be provided if for no other reason, to have the ability to use nav and other connected services long after manufacturers drop support, or mobile technology in the vehicle sunsets. It should be really good for the handful of functions the phone does well, and not much more. I wish Apple would improve it to make it more useful without physical interaction, but unfortunately that requires a more capable Siri. Ultra is an entirely different situation, and offers little if any upside to the auto manufacturers. The massive shrinking of the list of automakers supposedly supporting Ultra between the original announcement and now is pretty significant.
I agree with you about car buying in general, especially looking at the big, worldwide picture. For every person commenting about CarPlay (myself included) in a tech forum, there are 100 others for whom phone connectivity doesn’t even make their top 5 criteria when buying a car. It’s almost a “1st world problems” kind of thing.
So, while I think regular CarPlay should be offered, I also think it’s a little rich to complain when an automaker is trying to control the entire hardware-software stack for user experience purposes when that is precisely what Apple has done from the start.
I have never seen standard car software that's been good. They are often slow, buggy and over complicated to use and navigate.
I will not buy a car that doesn't come with CarPlay included. It is a deal breaker for me and all my family feel the same.
I will not buy a car that doesn't come with CarPlay included. It is a deal breaker for me and all my family feel the same.
In Mexico, many subcompacts, compacts, and light trucks are offered at a trim level without CarPlay. We bought Suzuki Jimnys that are only imported at the premium GLX level.
I like many people have limited options financially when it comes to buying vehicles, and the lack of carplay is down the priority list.
for example, I get more truck with a chevy colorado, then I do with a Toyota Tacoma dollar for dollar. The Taco, has a stellar reputation, but the price points were such (when I bought my truck) that I'd be paying significantly more for the Taco. Instead, I got a near top of the line Colorado for several thousands less then the Tacoma. Plus the chevy dealership was willing to negotiate, the toyota said, the sticker is what you pay - no movement.
My point is when it comes to vehicles, and extremely expensive purchase, people value quality, features, and their comfort level, i.e., I've always bought brand x, and they've been solid, so I'll keep buying brand x.
I said this earlier for most of the car buying public, car play, isn't something that will drive (pun intended) to (or away) to a particular car maker.
Or that they don’t nickel and dime charge you. Toyota connect comes to mind. Navigation software. Etc. Yep screw that. CarPlay and android is a must for me. And GM? I don’t buy American made cars. Lifetime of lemons and bad times. Been there done that multiple times.
Thank goodness GM are so useless that they don’t even sell cars in New Zealand and I won’t have to bother ignoring them 
GM also decided to stop making sedans. No Malibu (sedan) and no CarPlay equals no sale.
Plus, why don't they make a HYBRID?
Plus, why don't they make a HYBRID?
No CarPlay then no GM for our household.