In the case of GM, it gets them (they think) subscription revenue.
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GM to Remove CarPlay from All Future Vehicles, Including Gas Cars [Updated]
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If your system is actually better then you don’t need to stop users using CarPlay or Android auto etc.. just let them have all 3. If yours is so good no one will use the others. Restricting customers from things is normally a sign that you can’t compete. I have a hard time believing that something that’s a car company is going to outdo two of the best software engineering companies in the world.. but hey.. I’m willing to see what they got lol! History isn’t favourable to car company made systems, which is why CarPlay exists in the first place!
I’ve removed GM vehicles from my list of vehicles I would consider. That’s after owning 4 Yukon Denalis. Close to $300,000 of GM sales that won’t continue. Elderly CEO’s like Mary Barra should not make decisions about the tech used in their vehicles. My 4 year old granddaughter likes the GM interface. She thinks it’s a cartoon.
The thing is, we KNOW that whatever solution they engineer will be, in the main, mediocre at best.
I genuinely thought we saw the end of car manufacturers thinking they can do software, clearly not!
When I had a Tesla, which is among the best in car software experiences, I STILL missed my Google Maps, Apple Music etc and to be fair to them they slowly solved that by adding all those apps themselves, but I still would prefer access to CarPlay and Android auto in a Tesla.
Stupid move by GM, some software company has given the GM board one hell of a sales pitch on what they can deliver 🤣😅
I genuinely thought we saw the end of car manufacturers thinking they can do software, clearly not!
When I had a Tesla, which is among the best in car software experiences, I STILL missed my Google Maps, Apple Music etc and to be fair to them they slowly solved that by adding all those apps themselves, but I still would prefer access to CarPlay and Android auto in a Tesla.
Stupid move by GM, some software company has given the GM board one hell of a sales pitch on what they can deliver 🤣😅
I drive a Tesla and do not want Apple Carplay at all. I'd rather them improve the tesla UI functionality, I do not want to see my phone UI in my car.
This is coming from someone who used to only buy cars that had carplay. Once the in-car system becomes good enough, you don't miss it.
This is coming from someone who used to only buy cars that had carplay. Once the in-car system becomes good enough, you don't miss it.
I don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want the option of CarPlay, it’s more functionality and another tool. The Tesla UI is pretty good sure, buts it’s navigation is limited (I ran it side by side with Waze and Google maps and Tesla maps was always slower to spot traffic and reroute), the messaging systems are poor or non existent, and the Apple apps it does have lack polished to those pushed through CarPlay.
I purchased a new 2025 Corvette earlier this year and in the survey Chevy requested, I told them that I would never consider a Chevy or GM vehicle if it did not have CarPlay. It is a 100% requirement. I guess when I purchased my next ‘Vette’ it better have CarPlay or no way. I have owned a Corvette since the late 1960’s.
Because then the car manufacturer is less incentivized to improve their own internal OS if the could just rely on CarPlay.
My logic is basically
If the Car OS sucks, then I want CarPlay
If the Car OS is good, then I don't care/need CarPlay
If GM is saying that they will get to the point where the OS is good, then that's fine and I don't care that much.
Don't forget not wanting to pay for the subscription fee to the car manufacturer to enable "advanced features" like integration with Chamberlain's MyQ garage openers. If you have not noticed, car manufacturers have removed the HomeLink buttons in most new cars and now want you to "subscribe" to get integration with MyQ. If using CarPlay pre-iOS-26 you could open your garage from the dashboard screen and the control would automatically show up as you approached the house. In iOS 26 it is even better since you have the widget screen you switch to and just add the Apple Home widgets to that and you can open multiple garage doors and even make sure your front door is locked as you are pulling out of the driveway.
But without CarPlay you are back to clipping a garage opener on your visor or paying their exorbitant subscription fee.
I don't really get this logic....
If I buy a smart TV -- even if it had the best the smart TV OS (e.g.: tvOS + built-in Xbox), I would *still* want HDMI ports to hook up something else (e.g.: Playstation or Switch or even a nice digital camera). Just because the built-in stuff is good does not mean its okay to be prevented from doing anything beyond what is built-in -- especially for the amount of money one spends on a new car.
He's probably thinking about removing the floppy drive, not the transition to SSD.
I have been saying this for years: The concept of "software-on-top-a-software" is stupid and disgrace for any vehicle manufacturer. If you are relying on CarPlay you are basically saying to your customers that you are incapable of creating intuitive and easy to use software in your vehicle that seamlessly sync with your iPhone the moment you open the driver's door.
Buy Tesla and you don't have to worry about that. Have been receiving regular updates to the software for 5 years now and works like a charm with iPhone. Gets connected to the vehicle when I open the door and don't have to do anything to use navigation, Spotify, answer calls, etc.
Love my Subaru Outback Wilderness with the 11.6” vertical CarPlay with wireless connection. It just works
GM is one of the last car companies I would trust to build a working computer software system. I had nothing but trouble with their normal electronics let alone their physical car itself.
Apple or Google has buildings full of the best software engineers on the planet who do software as their business. Trying to relegate your software to some middling GM engineers that weren’t good enough to be hired at Apple or Google and will be in over their head is stupid in my opinion.
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honestly, considering how buggy my chevy bolt has been (sensors going offline sporadically, door locks not working right, car not completing boot up and failing to go into gear, all until I disconnect and reconnect the 12v battery which is less than a year old) I think I'm just done with GM anyway.
They didn't fix a problem the customer had. they fixed a problem the shareholder thinks they had.
I'm more than halfway paid off on this thing. I wonder if the aptera will launch by then and be as cheap as they keep saying it will be.
They didn't fix a problem the customer had. they fixed a problem the shareholder thinks they had.
I'm more than halfway paid off on this thing. I wonder if the aptera will launch by then and be as cheap as they keep saying it will be.
Not only does CarPlay just work, but it also integrates your car with your iPhone and the rest of the Apple information ecosystem. When I'm driving, my directions and status show up on-screen on the dash and my Apple Watch blips my wrist to remind me of an upcoming turn.
Using CarPlay, if there are any changes in the Apple ecosystem, and Apple owns that and it just happens. Not so with a car's proprietary system - which will then necessarily have integration limitations and delays in any changes. Hey, how do drivers of pre-2015 GM cars feel about OnStar no longer functioning on their car as of January 2023 (because of reliance on 2G/3G)? Oh, but they can load an OnStar app on their smartphone and plug a special dongle into their OBD-II port. Sigh.
Do you want your car to be an extension of your personal information system ecosystem or your personal information system an extension of your car? I pick the former. Users tend to develop long-term habits around their chosen information ecosystem. For me that's Apple, for others Android, but for very few it's the brand of vehicle they drive.
- I want my information accessible on my dashboard, and don't want to have to clip my phone to a dashboard vent and be restricted to using its touch screen.
- I want my choice of nav apps and up-to-date maps without having to live within my vehicle manufacturer's update pricing and availability.
- I want to be able to say things like "Hey Siri, add the nearest Wegman's to the route this afternoon on the way to my sister's house. It'll be a 15 minute visit." because I need to pick up something for their dinner party - and have it do so and update when it reminds me to leave.
- I want Apple to understand integration opportunities like this and build it in (it probably will). GM will never do so.
My first Mac (1984) was manufactured after the last car I bought from GM was manufactured. I guess I'm not GM's target market.
I love my 23 GMC Sierra AT4X but the built in Google infotainment software is garbage. Depending on what phone I'm using I always run Carplay or Android Auto. I'm looking to move to a 3/4 ton next year and that will pretty much rule out the HD version of my truck and likely push me to an F250 and likely that the wife will look elsewhere when time to trade her Yukon Denali.