I have not bought a GM car in decades. That trend will continue. Seriously, I love CarPlay and I can't imagine driving a car without it, especially considering that new vehicles have become so expensive. Lack of CarPlay in a new vehicle would be an absolute deal killer for me. The only (small) way I can get even with a large company like GM is to just not do business with it, period.
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GM to Remove CarPlay from All Future Vehicles, Including Gas Cars [Updated]
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Projection is far from useless. There are tons of applications that are available on Android Auto (not AAOS) and CarPlay that are never going to be supported on some of these in-car infotainment systems. This is a step backward.
They'll backtrack. It might take a couple years, but they survey the hell out of car buyers, and if "Lack of CarPlay" appears enough as a reason people aren't buying, they'll add it back.
Speaking of stuck in 2015, as we now back to the stupid “iOS is a toy” contrarian nonsense?
Sadly, if this works for GM, we will see other car brands follow suit. This is Apple and Google stepping on their turf and with CarPlay ultra, it’s Apple squeezing in even more.
Google is happy to partner with GM for the data collection, but I could see more and more car companies push back on CarPlay for their own dumb solutions full of subscriptions and data harvesting.
Sure, there’s a portion of the market that won’t buy anything without CarPlay, but there’s a very large portion of the market that doesn’t even know what that is, or buys GM fleet vehicles, etc etc.
The fact that this didn’t fail spectacularly when they made the change for just their EV’s is not a good sign and if GM pulls this off, so too will others.
Overall, I fear that Apple introducing CarPlay ultra might have been the straw the broke the camels back for these manufacturers. CarPlay was fine when they could sell it as a feature that lets you use maps or play music - but now Apple is wanting to control features that the auto makers want to charge for such as HUD, weather, seat controls, etc. these are all things they want to lock behind a paywall. Automakers don’t want to just be the body while Apple and Google monetize the brains of the car - they are pushing back.
Google is happy to partner with GM for the data collection, but I could see more and more car companies push back on CarPlay for their own dumb solutions full of subscriptions and data harvesting.
Sure, there’s a portion of the market that won’t buy anything without CarPlay, but there’s a very large portion of the market that doesn’t even know what that is, or buys GM fleet vehicles, etc etc.
The fact that this didn’t fail spectacularly when they made the change for just their EV’s is not a good sign and if GM pulls this off, so too will others.
Overall, I fear that Apple introducing CarPlay ultra might have been the straw the broke the camels back for these manufacturers. CarPlay was fine when they could sell it as a feature that lets you use maps or play music - but now Apple is wanting to control features that the auto makers want to charge for such as HUD, weather, seat controls, etc. these are all things they want to lock behind a paywall. Automakers don’t want to just be the body while Apple and Google monetize the brains of the car - they are pushing back.
Heres an example of shooting yourself in the foot. L.O.L.!!!!!! Idiots.
So you think because GM did it, others will follow? HAHAHAHAHA Okay
There's no technical reason they can't support CarPlay / AA as well as their own systems, letting people choose which they prefer.
While I don't buy cars often, I can assure you that GM won't be in consideration.
While I don't buy cars often, I can assure you that GM won't be in consideration.
I never really did have any interest in owning a GM car, and this not only solidifies that feeling but it also reminds me to avoid RENTING a GM car as well.
We just bought a new car and this was literally the only reason we didn't consider a single GM vehicle. Also, the idea that this is "Jobsian" is insane. Jobs was about creating the perfect experience by marrying hardware and software, but there's a reason the iPod wasn't also a toaster oven.
I’ve had three GMs in the past 5 years, still haven’t shot two of them. I wouldn’t have bought a single one without CarPlay. GM should be focusing on getting their engines to not blowing up instead of this. Onstar sucks and does nothing iPhone crash can’t do. Never-mind that when you do use Onstar it’s a foreign call center employee that has a barely passable understanding of English. And the theft prevention is worthless because of how easy it is to cut the wires.
Can’t imagine why the American car industry needs to be propped up by import controls and tariffs that force us all to pay significantly more for significantly less 🙄
And that's how to make yourself a manufacturer I'll never buy a car from.
Good thing GM doesn't have a car worth buying. Funny GM is comparing themselves to Jobs when a 117 year old company still hasn't figured out how to deliver a decent infotainment system. Keep dreaming Barra
This is a natural consequence of Apple's "secrecy above all else." Car manufacturers cannot count on Apple sharing their plans and working collaboratively, so they've developed their own solutions.
No, but because people use CarPlay, GM doesn’t get you to subscribe to their navigation, data streaming feature, etc. and can’t lock these behind a paywall - they also don’t get your valuable info to sell to data collectors.
Basically, this:
'Don’t Invade Our Systems': Automakers Warn Apple Over CarPlay Ultra
Apple's CarPlay Ultra would take Apple's software to your entire screen, including your A/C and speed. Car companies say no thanks.
insideevs.com
I dont like this. would not consider a proprietary system by a car manufacturer. Already got bit by proprietary problems with Lexus when their Enform system end of lifed all the apps that came with car. Only thing that saved utility for me was... CARPLAY.
i want the car to have software and a healthy suite of apps. but i like having carplay and use it now more.
i want the car to have software and a healthy suite of apps. but i like having carplay and use it now more.
Good example of how corporate yes man culture ends up making idiotic decisions.
And the example he used is even more insane—the disk drive was already deprecated, whereas the iPhone isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
Car rental companies will drop their gas cars when they do, I rent regularly and all vehicles have CarPlay, even the cheap compacts. Not that I’ve seen many GM rentals, mostly Nissan, Kia and VW, but still that’s one less buyer.