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Gmail Push in Mail App

haruhiko said:
Solution: Install the Gmail app and it will send push notifications to you when you get new mails.
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Thats what I do. I still use the stock mail app set to retrieve email hourly but also have the Gmail app installed to make sound when email arrives. A little delay waiting for the mail app to load is annoying but ok.

Keep in mind that the gmail app may have better abilities to download email in the background once IOS7 launches.


As for why Gmail doesn't do push, it's to give Android users a boost above iPhone users in functionality because google has an interest in encouraging Android.
 
Just tried iOS7b6 on my iPhone 5, and setting up my Google Apps account as Exchange worked! :eek:

Is this just a b6 bug, or did Google decide to allow ActiveSync connections again?

Edit: after further testing, it seems that it does NOT in fact work. The EAS account no longer errors out, but is only able to fetch/manual - no push. :mad:
 
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mavis said:
Just tried iOS7b6 on my iPhone 5, and setting up my Google Apps account as Exchange worked! :eek:

Is this just a b6 bug, or did Google decide to allow ActiveSync connections again?
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This does indeed work!
 
hey guys, regarding gmail push and those using it before google disabled it, didn't google say that any devices already using exchange and google push would continue to be able to use it?

I know when iOS 7 initially came out people were having push issues with gmail because apple was now sending software info rather than hardware serial number to identify the device, and thus google saw it as a new device and we couldn't get push. but with beta 3 or 4 apple went back to the old methodology of identifying via hardware, so our devices again should have appeared to google to be already using exchange.

Now thats what technically was supposed to happen. but well, i haven't been getting gmail push and it seems most of you aren't either. i thought it was just me.

anybody know wants going on and how to reconcile the two? i.e. our devices should be getting push based on what google said. but we are not.
 
MorphMan said:
Thats what I do. I still use the stock mail app set to retrieve email hourly but also have the Gmail app installed to make sound when email arrives. A little delay waiting for the mail app to load is annoying but ok.

Keep in mind that the gmail app may have better abilities to download email in the background once IOS7 launches.


As for why Gmail doesn't do push, it's to give Android users a boost above iPhone users in functionality because google has an interest in encouraging Android.
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Also the app can display ads but the native Mail app does not.
 
mirzank said:
I know when iOS 7 initially came out people were having push issues with gmail because apple was now sending software info rather than hardware serial number to identify the device, and thus google saw it as a new device and we couldn't get push. but with beta 3 or 4 apple went back to the old methodology of identifying via hardware, so our devices again should have appeared to google to be already using exchange.
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I thought about that too, but in my case I actually discovered that they were deprecating support for Exchange for new devices back in February, when I had my iPhone 5 replaced and the new one didn't work properly. So in my case, the device I'm using iOS7 on never actually had functioning ActiveSync support from Google. But it works now! :confused:

I'm afraid to actually start relying on it, though - I'd hate to revert to Gmail Exchange just to see support vanish in a few days/weeks.
 
aDRock1154 said:
Isn't push supported for all Google Apps accounts or am I thinking of something else?

EDIT: Google Apps is a paid service, yes?
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That's what I thought. I remember when Google announced dropping exchange sync they did say paid domain support would continue.
 
whsbuss said:
That's what I thought. I remember when Google announced dropping exchange sync they did say paid domain support would continue.
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Yep, that's what I thought about too. I wasn't sure if Google Apps for Business was the same thing...
 
omgwut said:
Someone said Google doesn't want to support push anymore. I don't understand, why would a service provider like them not want to support push? Is there a better alternative standard to adopt to perform the same function of instantaneous email retrieval?

Instead of installing Gmail and having a redundant email app on my iPhone I just set messages to my Gmail address to forward to my iCloud inbox, so I can get them to push that way. Works just fine!
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Google wants you to buy an Android device, it's why they are gimping things on rival platforms.

Just look at how they are messing Microsoft around with the YouTube app for Windows Phone for example, it's appalling.

The only way to get EAS working on a new iOS device is by paying a subscription for Google Apps.
 
Steve121178 said:
Google wants you to buy an Android device, it's why they are gimping things on rival platforms.

Just look at how they are messing Microsoft around with the YouTube app for Windows Phone for example, it's appalling.

The only way to get EAS working on a new iOS device is by paying a subscription for Google Apps.
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Actually, it works on new iDevices using iOS7b6, which is why I posted earlier in the first place. ;)

Edit: after further testing, it seems that it does NOT in fact work. The EAS account no longer errors out, but is only able to fetch/manual - no push. :mad:
 
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Vegasryn said:
I have gmail fwd to my iCloud and have gmail account set to only send...so if its from someone that sent mail to my gmail, when I respond I tell it to use gmail.
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THe only downside to this is that when you check your messages on your iOS device, it doesn't sync to you mac on icloud.com mail. SO in other words, when I boot my mac (or visa versa) it still shows my old messages as unread... super frustrating.


Apparently this has been a problem with icloud (and its predecessors) since the stone age..
 
I have been using the Gmail App for about half a year now. Yes, it is slower to startup than the native mail app and took a while getting used to, but otherwise works very well. Here's why I switched:

I want push email for my Gmail account but Exchange Activesync push notifications uses quite a bit of data, even when the iphone is still connected to wifi. Exchange Activesync easily uses 1 - 2 MB of 3G data a day just pushing notifications! thats 30 - 60 MB a month just for push notification! What a waste! In comparison, the Gmail App uses Push-Imap (Imap Idle), and uses about 10 percent of that.

1 -2 MB per day of 3G data might not mean much to most of you, but if you have a small 3G data allotment, or if you are often in rural areas (i.e cottage country) where cell data signals are weak, you'll definitely appreciate Push-Imap over Exchange Activesync.

Push-imap is a much more efficient protocol. I have no issues that Google got rid of support for Exchange Activesync and started using Push-Imap. Now if Apple added support for Push-Imap in IOS7, I might consider going back to the native mail client.
 
mavis said:
I thought about that too, but in my case I actually discovered that they were deprecating support for Exchange for new devices back in February, when I had my iPhone 5 replaced and the new one didn't work properly. So in my case, the device I'm using iOS7 on never actually had functioning ActiveSync support from Google. But it works now! :confused:

I'm afraid to actually start relying on it, though - I'd hate to revert to Gmail Exchange just to see support vanish in a few days/weeks.
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lucky you!

i always configured gmail as exchange, but never used push notification because for some reason i just thought if i wasn't getting blackberry style push i'm ok with it just checking when i want it to. well now i actually need push and it won't work. i've had the same device, my 4s, since last year, so i should be getting push, but I'm not.
 
so i maybe have some decent news for those that had exchange enabled prior to gmail stopping it, and are using the same device.

I just checked on my phone and both my gmail and gmail for business account were added through the add account -> gmail option. I also had one additional config for each, which was set up with m.google.com through add -> exchange, and i only had calendar enabled for this.

Now I configured it this way from the beginning, back in the days of my pine 3g because thats how online guides suggested you do it.

Anyway so i enabled mail on both of those accounts configured on m.google.com and i am now getting push mail!

Only caveat is, that with my business account I get mail within seconds of sending myself a email. but on my gmail personal account it takes about 10-15 seconds. i tried a whole bunch of times. I am not sure why this discrepancy exists but for now i'm happy i have it working.
 
 
Rocko1 said:
Yes it does. They are rivals. :rolleyes:
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Please show me where Apple told google to stop supporting Push.

I'm sure Google isn't stupid enough to kill a service for the sole reason of making iPhone users pissed off. Google wants iPhone users to use their services.
 
apollo1444 said:
Why do people want push on the native mail app? is it really that hard to download a great free gmail app?
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Yes. I think the gmail app is awful.
I don't like the looks and I don't like that I get alerts for emails I have already read from my computer.
 
apollo1444 said:
Why do people want push on the native mail app? is it really that hard to download a great free gmail app?
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Call me crazy, but I hate the way non-native mail apps are forced to format their notifications. I'd rather not have push.
 
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