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Godzilla (2014)

Huntn said:
I need to watch this.

update: It was funny and valid! :)

I was watching Pacific Rim and after seeing the new Godzilla realized how closely related it is to The Godzilla mythos if not in story specifics, in theme and feeling.
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And it looks like we are going to see Pacific Rim 2 and possible Pacific Rim 3! Not to mention Godzilla 2!!!
 
rhett7660 said:
And it looks like we are going to see Pacific Rim 2 and possible Pacific Rim 3! Not to mention Godzilla 2!!!
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Pacific Rim is one of those movies I initially disliked, but it's growing on me. :) Rememberbing back on early attempts at CGI, it is now going places I never imagined with high degrees of photo realism. The obvious challenge left is a digital person, that you can't tell is digital. They have all ready done it with animals.
 
Huntn said:
Pacific Rim is one of those movies I initially disliked, but it's growing on me. :) Remembering back on early attempts at CGI, it is now going places I never imagined with high degrees of photo realism. The obvious challenge left is a digital person, that you can't tell is digital. They have all ready done it with animals.
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Once they get the human down, that is going to open up a whole new world of CGI!!!!! I remember when Final Fantasy came out and there was talk and grumblings from some of those in Hollywood about them being replaced.
 
Huntn said:
Pacific Rim is one of those movies I initially disliked, but it's growing on me. :) Rememberbing back on early attempts at CGI, it is now going places I never imagined with high degrees of photo realism. The obvious challenge left is a digital person, that you can't tell is digital. They have all ready done it with animals.
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Can you suggest a movie where the photorealism is so good that you can't tell the animal is CGI? I personally haven't come across one yet, but I am also pretty efficient at spotting moving CGI.
 
T'hain Esh Kelch said:
Can you suggest a movie where the photorealism is so good that you can't tell the animal is CGI? I personally haven't come across one yet, but I am also pretty efficient at spotting moving CGI.
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Avatar?
Hell Boy?
Jurassic Park?

I have a feeling you will be able to spot any and all, but the fact they are pretty darn real looking.
 
T'hain Esh Kelch said:
Can you suggest a movie where the photorealism is so good that you can't tell the animal is CGI? I personally haven't come across one yet, but I am also pretty efficient at spotting moving CGI.
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There is a long list of such movies. Although not totally CGI, how about an old one Mouse Hunt (1997)? Then there is Life of Pi and the mouse in The Green Mile.

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rhett7660 said:
Avatar?
Hell Boy?
Jurassic Park?

I have a feeling you will be able to spot any and all, but the fact they are pretty darn real looking.
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We know there are no dinos, but if you did not know that, the CGI dinos in JP and the animals in Avatar for all intents and purposes were photo realistic.
 
rhett7660 said:
Right, but they still did 3D work on a good chunk of the dinosaurs no?
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Yes, but the point is that they wisely kept it out of shots where its weaknesses... especially at that time... would be obvious.

Now the recent planet of the apes movies are an example of truly exceptional CGI.
 
You can't find a better bigger lizard than the 1998 Godzilla, although they used rain a lot to mask it. :)

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Freshened up my avatar. :p
 
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rhett7660 said:
Wait, are we talking about Godzilla or women!?!?!?! :cool::D
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Well, that Godzilla 2000 movie (or whatever it was) where Godzilla dispatches "Zilla" with one blast, that was biased artistic license, lol. The 1998 Godzilla versus traditional Godzilla would have been like Mohammed Ali dancing around Joe Frasier or Prince Martell leaping around The Mountain. :)

If I have one complaint about the 1998 version is that he did not use his plasma breath enough and it should have been blue (nuclear based) instead of red (fire).
 
Huntn said:
Well, that Godzilla 2000 movie (or whatever it was) where Godzilla dispatches "Zilla" with one blast, that was biased artistic license, lol. The 1998 Godzilla versus traditional Godzilla would have been like Mohammed Ali dancing around Joe Frasier or Prince Martell leaping around The Mountain. :)

If I have one complaint about the 1998 version is that he did not use his plasma breath enough and it should have been blue (nuclear based) instead of red (fire).
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She didn't use atomic breath at all. They just vaguely eluded to it when she blew over those cars and the gas in them caught fire.
 
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APlotdevice said:
She didn't use atomic breath at all. They just vaguely eluded to it when she blew over those cars and the gas in them caught fire.
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I'll have to watch that again, thinking it was fire coming out of its mouth. The lack of such breath was a significant omission. Plus the 1998 version was not nearly mean enough and too sympathetic. I was feeling sorry for it at the end. And to honor the mythos, it should be too tough/wiley to kill with human technology.

I feel that if they had just given it atomic breath and it had kicked the crap out of NYC because of the audacity of the human race, and had not died at the end, it would have better been accepted as Godzilla, instead of a remake of the Beast From 20000 Fathoms. :D
 
Huntn said:
I'll have to watch that again, thinking it was fire coming out of its mouth. The lack of such breath was a significant omission. Plus the 1998 version was not nearly mean enough and too sympathetic. I was feeling sorry for it at the end. And to honor the mythos, it should be too tough/wiley to kill with human technology.

I feel that if they had just given it atomic breath and it had kicked the crap out of NYC because of the audacity of the human race, and had not died at the end, it would have better been accepted as Godzilla, instead of a remake of the Beast From 20000 Fathoms. :D
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Well technically the first Gojira was killed with human technology in the first movie... though they were using a weapon of unimaginable power. (its creator having sacrificed himself to ensure that the weapon would never be used again)
 
APlotdevice said:
Well technically the first Gojira was killed with human technology in the first movie... though they were using a weapon of unimaginable power. (its creator having sacrificed himself to ensure that the weapon would never be used again)
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There is no confusing me for a Godzilla expert. :)
 
Watched this again and just blah. This had truer Ga-zillra mythos, but from a story telling perspective, 1998 was a better movie. Wondering why they stole 2001 A Space Odyssey tension music during the parachute jump into SF. And mediocre music. :confused:

If you want a Kaiju story, my reccomendation would be Pacific Rim featuring highly dynamic action.

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Huntn said:
Watched this again and just blah. This had truer Ga-zillra mythos, but from a story telling perspective, 1998 was a better movie. Wondering why they stole 2001 A Space Odyssey tension music during the parachute jump into SF. And mediocre music. :confused:

If you want a Kaiju story, my reccomendation would be Pacific Rim featuring highly dynamic action.

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I digged the action in Pacific Rim, I just didn't like the characters. I was actually hoping some or all of them would bit the dust during the duration of the film. With the exception of Ron Perlman's character. For some reason he had/hit the right mark for his character! The others, blah. But then again the real characters where the big, bad, mean, giant, people killing monsters! And the those other robots who fight them!
 
rhett7660 said:
I digged the action in Pacific Rim, I just didn't like the characters. I was actually hoping some or all of them would bit the dust during the duration of the film. With the exception of Ron Perlman's character. For some reason he had/hit the right mark for his character! The others, blah. But then again the real characters where the big, bad, mean, giant, people killing monsters! And the those other robots who fight them!
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In contrast I like all of the characters, especially the bikering scientists. :):)
 
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