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iPhone 15 Pro Going back to a Max

callen_v1 said:
I can go 10 hrs without access to an outlet. Even if I did have an outlet, why would I want to carry around a power brick and cable in my back pocket?
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If only there was a way to conveniently charge your phone without an outlet.

Paradoxally said:
A phone in 2023 needs to have all day battery life. This is something I will never compromise on. The only option Apple offers for my usage is the Pro Max, so that's the only one I will buy.
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An iPhone battery can charge 50% in about 30 mins. If you're a heavy user, then I'm almost certain you're either at work, in an office, in a car, or your phone is sitting on a table, at some point throughout the day. Taking 10-15 minutes to put the phone on a dock, charger, wireless pad, or attaching a MagSafe battery certainly wouldn't kill you.

I just find it funny how people will justify spending $1000+ upgrading a phone, just to get an hour more screen on time, but will scoff at the idea of simply topping the phone up during the day. Again, literally 10-15 minutes of charging could be the difference between a phone lasting all day or not.

If you have time to post on MacRumors during the day, then you have time to charge your phone. And you could actually do both of those things at the same time.
 
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I was so torn between pro and max this year. I really wanted the max but decided the pro would fit my hands better and I was worried it would still be very unwieldy and heavy like the 14pm. I’ve since felt the 15PM in person and wow they have done an amazing job streamlining it, making it less heavy and so on. So while I am loving my pro sometimes I feel wistful for the max!
 
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I have gone from an iPhone 12 pro max to an iPhone 15 pro and I am delighted.

The phone feels very light and agile, I don't regret it at all. In addition, the screen of the NO MAX gives me the feeling that they are of higher quality.
 
Asiatic Black Hebrew said:
If only there was a way to conveniently charge your phone without an outlet.


An iPhone battery can charge 50% in about 30 mins. If you're a heavy user, then I'm almost certain you're either at work, in an office, in a car, or your phone is sitting on a table, at some point throughout the day. Taking 10-15 minutes to put the phone on a dock, charger, wireless pad, or attaching a MagSafe battery certainly wouldn't kill you.

I just find it funny how people will justify spending $1000+ upgrading a phone, just to get an hour more screen on time, but will scoff at the idea of simply topping the phone up during the day. Again, literally 10-15 minutes of charging could be the difference between a phone lasting all day or not.

If you have time to post on MacRumors during the day, then you have time to charge your phone. And you could actually do both of those things at the same time.
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Lmao I know it's crazy.

Also, wireless charging pads around your house are great. You just place your phone down on it while you do something else and then pick it up and it has a small boost of battery.

that's just doing the bare minimum too. Actually using a fast charger would be ideal since you get max juice for a tiny amount of time.
 
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Motionblurrr said:
Lmao I know it's crazy.

Also, wireless charging pads around your house are great. You just place your phone down on it while you do something else and then pick it up and it has a small boost of battery.

that's just doing the bare minimum too. Actually using a fast charger would be ideal since you get max juice for a tiny amount of time.
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Exactly. I've lost count of all the different charging options we have now, but people still act like they have to manually spin a turbine to charge their phones. It really just boils down to laziness. There's no other explanation.

"I'm too busy to charge my phone" they say, as they browse social media & post on MacRumors for hours each day.
 
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Asiatic Black Hebrew said:
I just find it funny how people will justify spending $1000+ upgrading a phone, just to get an hour more screen on time, but will scoff at the idea of simply topping the phone up during the day. Again, literally 10-15 minutes of charging could be the difference between a phone lasting all day or not.
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The whole point of spending $1000+ for a large Pro Max phone is exactly to not have to charge it until I have to sleep. My 14 Pro Max can do this flawlessly. If the 15 Pro Max can't because of overheating, then that's another issue.

Long gone are the days where I have to top up during the day unless I'm outdoors taking photos for hours in a hot environment.
 
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Paradoxally said:
The whole point of spending $1000+ for a large Pro Max phone is exactly to not have to charge it until I have to sleep. My 14 Pro Max can do this flawlessly. If the 15 Pro Max can't because of overheating, then that's another issue.

Long gone are the days where I have to top up during the day unless I'm outdoors taking photos for hours in a hot environment.
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My point was there are options for those complaining about the battery. The original poster I quoted said that his wife regularly complained when her battery died. Instead of simply charging her phone for a few minutes during the day, she would rather let it die & then complain about it. Apparently it's Apple's fault that her battery died. That seems to be the attitude many here have & it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It reeks of entitlement & is essentially this community in microcosm.

Refusing to charge a phone simply because you don't think you should have to, is an extremely silly reason. The suggestion of spending $50 on a MagSafe battery is usually met with hostility, but the justification to spend $1200 on the latest iPhone with 45 mins more screen on time than the previous model, seems to be the option people would rather go with. To each his own, I suppose.
 
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Tinkerbellaa22 said:
I'm waiting.

I backed up my 15 Pro today with the intention of returning it but I can't seem to let it go. The size is perfect and just what I need.

Coming from a 12 Pro Max and all the other plus/max sizes before that I was secretly hoping I'd hate it and it would be my excuse to get a 15 PM but nope.... I don't think I'll go back to a Max again.
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I upgraded from a 13PM to a 15PM. for the last 9months or so (having used it since launch), I've been convincing myself that I would downsize my next phone because the 13PM whilst an amazing phone, was too heavy for me, and I had a XS Max before it.

I have no regrets going pro max again - it feels great in hand and the weight difference is noticeable and very welcome. I'm sooooo happy that I didn't downsize because the only downsize was weight for me and now that's been sorted, it's truly an awesome phone and no battery issues here
 
Most people that switch over to the big phone just accept that it's not going to be as one handed friendly. Once you accept that, you never think about going smaller again. Bask in the glory of using a big screen with a big battery life!

If however it's so much of an inconvenience and you go back to the small one, then you gotta accept your battery won't last as long. Start attaching more chargers around you and plug it in often to top off.
 
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I think the bad battery life is a software bug. Last few days I had terrible battery life on my new iPhone 15 Pro. Today I rebooted the phone and my battery life is SIGNIFICANTLY better since then and the phone runs much cooler. Maybe try that out before returning the phone.

I hope Apple puts out a software fix because iOS 17 seems buggy in that regard.
 
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Yeah I'm happy with the 15 Pro... so glad
th1nk said:
I think the bad battery life is a software bug. Last few days I had terrible battery life on my new iPhone 15 Pro. Today I rebooted the phone and my battery life is SIGNIFICANTLY better since then and the phone runs much cooler. Maybe try that out before returning the phone.

I hope Apple puts out a software fix because iOS 17 seems buggy in that regard.
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I wiped my entire phone (15 Pro) and then restored it again - battery life is better and doesn't heat up anymore so I also think it's a software thing.

However I noticed that I had background app refresh on so that's off now and I had the Daily Mail and XE.com widget which I've got rid of.
 
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th1nk said:
I think the bad battery life is a software bug. Last few days I had terrible battery life on my new iPhone 15 Pro. Today I rebooted the phone and my battery life is SIGNIFICANTLY better since then and the phone runs much cooler. Maybe try that out before returning the phone.

I hope Apple puts out a software fix because iOS 17 seems buggy in that regard.
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I agree. Anytime there is a major IOS update it seems you read more about battery issues for a while even on older phones. I also think most people restore backups onto these new phones instead of a fresh install which requires a lot of reindexing of your data. I’ve read a few sites say up to a week.

Here’s a thread where people with other non-15 phones who upgraded to 17 are having battery drain issues.


That isn’t the only one either.

I love the form factor of the regular pro. I’ll admit the 15PM is so light I couldn’t really tell the difference between it and the 15P but it is still too big in my hand and with a case, too bulky in my pocket. The 15P feels great for single hand use, easy to pocket.

I’ll use the 15P and see if the rumors pan out on the 16 having an in between option 6.3” which I think would be perfect.
 
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I posted above and I'm still on the fence too. Have any of you considered going with a 15 Plus? I've been going back and forth between returning my 15P, trying to find find a 15PM and going with a 15 Plus. I would hate to lose the 15P's always on display and better camera but I've already turned off the AOD to try and get better battery from my 15P. And I was totally happy with my previous phone's camera (11) so the 15 Plus would definitely be a step up, even if it's not as good as 15P or 15PM. And from what I've seen (and this could be wrong), it seems like the 15 Max has the best battery life of all four new phones.
 
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80s Fan said:
I posted above and I'm still on the fence too. Have any of you considered going with a 15 Max? I've been going back and forth between returning my 15P, trying to find find a 15PM and going with a 15 Max. I would hate to lose the 15P's always on display and better camera but I've already turned off the AOD to try and get better battery from my 15P. And I was totally happy with my previous phone's camera (11) so the 15 Max would definitely be a step, even if it's not as good as 15P or 15PM. And from what I've seen (and this could be wrong), it seems like the 15 Max has the best battery life of all four new phones.
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I think there are a lot of people in the same boat as you. IMO, the only reason to go with the PM over the Plus would be the camera. If you are not concerned about the camera, the lighter weight and battery on the Plus outweigh the other factors.
 
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I'm in a similar position, I had a 13PM which I loved but struggled with the size of it in my pocket. Decided I would down size and got the 15P, the battery life is so much worse and I do find myself missing the larger screen. I have a 15PM on order but I might persist with the 15P as the size is much more manageable. Can't bring myself to cancel the 15PM order yet - 9th - 16th October window for delivery
 
I honestly don’t mind the reduced battery performance coming from a 14 Pro Max to a 15 Pro. I’ve been on the fence of returning as well but for other reasons. Interesting enough, thought that I would miss the screen size because of movies and TV shows but ultimately, the size and weight of the 15 Pro have been an advantage.

I’m curious to know from 15PM users if the new weight of the phone is a big difference from the 14PM.
 
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Asiatic Black Hebrew said:
You don't even have to put it down. You can literally pop a MagSafe battery on & go about your day. But that simple task seems to be equivalent to manual labor for many posters.
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You’re assuming that everybody who has battery issues has a case that works with MagSafe. I enjoyed the form factor of my 12 Pro but it’s really nice to me to have the max and simply not have to think about battery near as much now. I always have chargers near me unless I’m out and about. Sometimes I’m out and about long enough that battery becomes an issue on the smaller phone. I used an otterbox on that one and MagSafe simply was not an option. I ran out of battery on the subway when I visited NYC. That sucked. It’s not so cut and dry that folks who complain about battery are simply lazy and no other reason. There are times when a larger battery is nice to have, plain and simple.

For the record, I don’t think most folks are spending an entire $1200+ on a new phone ONLY for better battery. Most of them are probably going to buy either a $1000 or $1200 phone regardless (because they want to upgrade to the new model), and are simply opting to spend the extra on the Max vs the non-Max because of the battery/camera/whatever else they want that the Max offers.

Apple sells both sizes because folks want both, and they both have their pros and cons. This is my first time owning a Max and I love it.
 
BLtheP said:
You’re assuming that everybody who has battery issues has a case that works with MagSafe. I enjoyed the form factor of my 12 Pro but it’s really nice to me to have the max and simply not have to think about battery near as much now. I always have chargers near me unless I’m out and about. Sometimes I’m out and about long enough that battery becomes an issue on the smaller phone. I used an otterbox on that one and MagSafe simply was not an option. I ran out of battery on the subway when I visited NYC. That sucked. It’s not so cut and dry that folks who complain about battery are simply lazy and no other reason. There are times when a larger battery is nice to have, plain and simple.

For the record, I don’t think most folks are spending an entire $1200+ on a new phone ONLY for better battery. Most of them are probably going to buy either a $1000 or $1200 phone regardless (because they want to upgrade to the new model), and are simply opting to spend the extra on the Max vs the non-Max because of the battery/camera/whatever else they want that the Max offers.

Apple sells both sizes because folks want both, and they both have their pros and cons. This is my first time owning a Max and I love it.
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I'm not assuming everybody has a case compatible with MagSafe. I'm assuming that someone on a subway with a dying phone would do the sensible thing & simply remove the case to allow the phone to charge, or use one of the four or five other available ways to charge it prior to it dying. A phone doesn't just suddenly die. It's something that you are well aware is coming long ahead of time. The phone quite literally gives you a countdown to it happening.

Apparently, removing your case to charge your dying phone for ten minutes during your ride, wasn't something you were willing to do for whatever reason. That was a personal choice which had some unfortunate consequences. Your case may not have been MagSafe, but your phone certainly was. You were not a victim in that situation. It was 100% self inflicted. A battery dying is something that is totally avoidable, yet people still continue to act as if there's nothing they can do.

I have no issue with people buying a Pro Max, I own one myself. If that phone gets you through the day, then great. What I have an issue with is this victim mentality people have when it comes to charging their phones. Every post I see regarding this topic, people make themselves sound completely helpless, as if there was absolutely nothing they could've done to prevent it. I just find it extremely bizarre. There are people who are even complaining about the Pro Max screen on time. If you are using your phone for eight hours each day, yet supposedly can't find fifteen minutes to charge it, then I'm sorry, that is laziness.
 
tekksan said:
I agree. Anytime there is a major IOS update it seems you read more about battery issues for a while even on older phones. I also think most people restore backups onto these new phones instead of a fresh install which requires a lot of reindexing of your data. I’ve read a few sites say up to a week.

Here’s a thread where people with other non-15 phones who upgraded to 17 are having battery drain issues.


That isn’t the only one either.

I love the form factor of the regular pro. I’ll admit the 15PM is so light I couldn’t really tell the difference between it and the 15P but it is still too big in my hand and with a case, too bulky in my pocket. The 15P feels great for single hand use, easy to pocket.

I’ll use the 15P and see if the rumors pan out on the 16 having an in between option 6.3” which I think would be perfect.
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I will cry actual tears if they announce a 16 pro in 6.3 next year... ACTUAL TEARS.
 
If you think any iPhone is heavy, you might need a gym membership.

edit: autocorrect got me!
 
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