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i do about 95% of the exercises listed on the website, but i split them up into two weeks! there's no way i could possibly workout the same muscle group doing that many sets on a single day! :eek:

just do what i do and spread out his one week session into two or more weeks.
 
I took something called Oxy Elite Pro. Is to accelerate your metabolism, loose weight, reduce your appetite.
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So... what ever you take, read the ingredients and do a research. Do not take anything to accelerate the metabolism. People do not noticed as I didn't but look at how they work and go to Wikipedia and look fro hyperthyroidism

So basically you took stuff that you hadn't properly researched, and after it went wrong you attributed its effects to all supplements. For the record, protein shakes are completely safe. They're not some miracle formula, they are pretty similar to powdered milk.

Next time just make sure you know what you are taking, and don't take stuff unless you actually need it in the first place.
 
Don't confuse getting beefy and/or 'healthy' with lifting foolishly heavy.

You can certainly build a great physique without a heavy plan like that. That's way to much for most people, and even then unless you're really prepared for it.

Lift heavy, eat more. It doesn't mean abuse your your body. Your body needs - literally requires - time to recover. And depending on your body type also has bearing on your workout plan.

If you're lifting just to look like Josef you're probly not doing it for the right reason and might injure yourself by pushing beyond the correct limit. Working out on and off for 8 or 10 years isn't the same as being consistent for a few.

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just wanted to say that the guy in the pic has a muscle definition that is clearly not achievable w/ just diet & exercise alone. ;)
 
You never know if you don't try. It sounds stubborn but I'm still considering of trying it, pretty positive about it. Currently my workout plan doesn't excite me at all.

What was your workout routine before? Just curious

For the record I think the routine is fine if your body can handle the intensity (Serge Nubret's routine was twice as long as that one). Thing is high volume is usually reserved for competitive body builders or experienced lifters (AKA guys with years of training, not 6 months).

My routine is 5-7 exercises per day 5 days/wk, 3 sets each, and I lift to hit muscle failure around the 7th or 8th rep. I got a chest day, back day, arms/shoulders, leg day, and core day. I try to keep a rhythm going so I'll drop weight between sets to minimize rest time. I'm also in cutting mode so I'm on a ketodiet. The way my body is right now, if I did a 30+ set high rep session, I'd probably tear something or shock my central nervous system.
 
For the record I think the routine is fine if your body can handle the intensity (Serge Nubret's routine was twice as long as that one). Thing is high volume is usually reserved for competitive body builders or experienced lifters (AKA guys with years of training, not 6 months).

That's what I tried to tell him. The routine isn't bad, but it's more than likely that it is far too advanced for him at this point, and try as he might he won't be able to keep it up or do all the sets correctly.
 
That's what I tried to tell him. The routine isn't bad, but it's more than likely that it is far too advanced for him at this point, and try as he might he won't be able to keep it up or do all the sets correctly.

6 months of intense training isn't enough? Maybe, maybe not. I think... I will still have to try it out, if it won't work out then I guess it just...won't.
 
So basically you took stuff that you hadn't properly researched, and after it went wrong you attributed its effects to all supplements. For the record, protein shakes are completely safe. They're not some miracle formula, they are pretty similar to powdered milk.

Next time just make sure you know what you are taking, and don't take stuff unless you actually need it in the first place.

Kid, you have a very bad attitude problem, if you suffer from anxiety or some sort of borderline personality disorder deal with it somewhere else.
 
6 months of intense training isn't enough? Maybe, maybe not. I think... I will still have to try it out, if it won't work out then I guess it just...won't.

I'd say its not enough. Of course I have no idea what condition you are actually in, but in terms of fitness and such, 6 monthes isn't much time at all.

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Kid, you have a very bad attitude problem, if you suffer from anxiety or some sort of borderline personality disorder deal with it somewhere else.

lol. I have no attitude problems at all, simply clearing up some wrong information for the benefit of others. Thanks for your concern though.
 
6 months of intense training isn't enough? Maybe, maybe not. I think... I will still have to try it out, if it won't work out then I guess it just...won't.

Within a few months you will find yourself having very little to negative increase in weights lifted, most likely a cold that won't leave, constant fatigue and an overall bad shape. This is common and happens to most people who want to become buff but haven't acquired enough knowledge, so they take someone else's program and crash and burn since they a) are not prepared and b) don't allow their bodies enough energy or recovery. Worst case scenario, you'll injure yourself.

My best advice to you would be to lay off the dreams of "intense" training for now. If you want to eat, sleep, live training, knowledge is where you need to start. Get to know your body, increase steadily and find out what works for you. Learn to do the exercises properly before trying to add huge weights.

Training regimes are personal in a way that diets just aren't, so taking someone else's regime is in general a bad idea. Read about training, try different layouts, pick the exercises that work for you, create your own program. Don't forget to eat and sleep, and that rest is very important.

You'll grow in the meantime, and when you're ready, you'll be able to create a program like this of your own that will be much more effective since it's based on what you know about your own body, your CNS is prepared, tenders and whatever it's called are strong enough to handle the excessive training, and because you won't chock your system and fall into the over trained trap that so many are falling into in their dreams to become big.

For someone who has worked out for six months to go on this program sounds about as silly as doing nothing but drop sets to max.
 
That's what I tried to tell him. The routine isn't bad, but it's more than likely that it is far too advanced for him at this point, and try as he might he won't be able to keep it up or do all the sets correctly.

Well, I hope his body can handle it and he doesn't end up like this guy

Kid, you have a very bad attitude problem, if you suffer from anxiety or some sort of borderline personality disorder deal with it somewhere else.

He was telling you what you did, which was have a bad reaction to a fatburner and use it to preach to the board why they shouldn't take protein. That makes no sense because they have nothing to do with each other. Fatburners are for cutting. Protein is for recovery
 
What makes you think he came for advice ? Looks to me he came for validation. He's just not getting any.


Thread title: ...Am I ready?

I agree with you about what he really came for, but his choice of words is misleading.
 
Thread title: ...Am I ready?

I agree with you about what he really came for, but his choice of words is misleading.

True, but my opinion : He's ready. 6 months of hard training - I have never got so far but at my 4th and last month I did want something more harder and intense.
 
True, but my opinion : He's ready. 6 months of hard training - I have never got so far but at my 4th and last month I did want something more harder and intense.

Are you increasing your weight each week? If not, try it. It makes things pretty intense.
 
True, but my opinion : He's ready. 6 months of hard training - I have never got so far but at my 4th and last month I did want something more harder and intense.

I was just pointing out that he asked for advice and yet doesn't appear to be accepting it.

:)
 
Well, I've made the decision - Next Monday Vinecezor Rakich it is. I'll let you know how it goes.
 
Are you increasing your weight each week? If not, try it. It makes things pretty intense.

boss.king, what's your routine and diet like?

I've been cutting for 2 months on a ketodiet because it's summer and I always end up partying in vegas around this time. When I hit 9% BF, I'm gonna carb cycle.

The bodybuilder I admire most is Kane Sumabat. The guy's got the ripped but athletic look. He also does volume workouts but usually mixes it up

Well, I've made the decision - Next Monday Vinecezor Rakich it is. I'll let you know how it goes.

good luck man
 
boss.king, what's your routine and diet like?

I've been cutting for 2 months on a ketodiet because it's summer and I always end up partying in vegas around this time. When I hit 9% BF, I'm gonna carb cycle.

The bodybuilder I admire most is Kane Sumabat. The guy's got the ripped but athletic look. He also does volume workouts but usually mixes it up

I do a modified version of stronglifts, and I try to run about twice a week. I've only been doing it for a about 8 months though, I'm still quite a beginner in terms of weight. I've been on a mild bulk for the last 6 months and it's going quite nicely, but I might start cutting soon, I'd like to be a bit more defined for once.

I tend to change my mind quite a bit about what my goals are, which isn't really good, but the general idea is that I want to be bigger, stronger and healthier. Kane looks a bit to low-bf for me, my current goal body is something like this (not too extreme, but noticeably in shape):
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Am I the only one that's noticed that virtually all of this guys threads include a link to a product or service?

That said, anyone who thinks this fitness routine is "hardcore" — or any good for that matter — needs to have their head examined. Doing 20 sets of chest or bicep exercises for 2 hours in the gym while making silly faces in the mirror isn't hardcore, it's asinine. People seem to forget that before Arnold Schwarzenegger was the greatest bodybuilder in the world, he spent years competing as a powerlifter and an olympic lifter. A 110kg snatch is hardcore. A 310kg deadlift is hardcore. Bench pressing 200kg is hardcore. Spending 2 hours getting a pump on your 10 inch guns is decidedly not.
 
Well, I've made the decision - Next Monday Vinecezor Rakich it is. I'll let you know how it goes.

Obviously you were going to do this anyway but if you do decide to take any advice from this thread just remember to pace yourself, do every exercise with perfect form, and don't neglect your diet.
 
6 months of intense training isn't enough? Maybe, maybe not. I think... I will still have to try it out, if it won't work out then I guess it just...won't.

So how's your routine going so far OP? Have you managed to keep it up somehow?
 
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