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Gold Apple Watch Buyers to Get Special Purchasing Experience With 30 Minute Appointments

ugahairydawgs said:
Stereotypes don't just pop up out of thin air. Obviously there are exceptions, but the universe of high wage earning jobs in the restaurant service industry is small. Very small.

People who make a lot of $$ that can't manage it well doesn't disprove the original point.
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You're missing the point. What I was saying had nothing to do with servers making a great deal of money. My problem with the elitist thinking of people here about servers is they act like as long a someone has a job that appears to pay low wages that person must not have money.

People can acquire money from multiple resources and may be working as a server as to not dig into that money every month to pay bills constantly. Many people have a large savings and work basic jobs. To stereotype someone as being too poor to buy an AppleWatch just because they are a server is elitist.

And for some people here to have the nerve to say that the server has no right buying an expensive watch, blah blah blah....people can do whatever the hell they want their money and I'm willing to bet many servers have more savings than many of the high and mighty elitist-thinking people here. I honestly think some of the people here with higher-paying jobs saying such things are jealous because they don't have any disposable funds to buy such nice things. Maybe they are too far in their own debt?
 
HenryDJP said:
You're missing the point. What I was saying had nothing to do with servers making a great deal of money. My problem with the elitist thinking of people here about servers is they act like as long a someone has a job that appears to pay low wages that person must not have money.

People can acquire money from multiple resources and may be working as a server as to not dig into that money every month to pay bills constantly. Many people have a large savings and work basic jobs. To stereotype someone as being too poor to buy an AppleWatch just because they are a server is elitist.

And for some people here to have the nerve to say that the server has no right buying an expensive watch, blah blah blah....people can do whatever the hell they want their money and I'm willing to bet many servers have more savings than many of the high and mighty elitist-thinking people here. I honestly think some of the people here with higher-paying jobs saying such things are jealous because they don't have any disposable funds to buy such nice things. Maybe they are too far in their own debt?
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Agreed. Can't believe some of the things people are saying on this thread. Many people of various incomes are both smart AND dumb with their finances. But it's not our place to pass judgment and assume, and it's not apples responsibility to decide for them.

As you said, you can be making 200k a year, but if you are spending 250k, you're worse off financially then someone making 30k and managing their debt.
 
StarManta said:
> server in a restaurant

> is considering buying a $700 smartwatch

Sure thing, Apple. Sure. Thing.
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I know some servers that can rake in that much in one night. Granted it'll more than likely be a weekend night, but servers have the potential to make money in densely populated wealthier areas.
 
What seems ironic to me is that for the people who have $10k + to spend on a watch, this isn't such a big purchase decision. It's the customers with considerable less means who are going to scrimp and save who this product will mean the most to.
 
This Lee character is a poor case study to train Apple employees in how to approach the customer. I don't think many people realize that this persona of Lee is likely based on the demographics of Silicon Valley rather than, say, the east coast for example.

This fashion crap is getting out of hand and Apple needs to get their priorities straight. They still have not revealed how the watches will be upgraded or updated for the value of money that's being spent on.
 
steve-p said:
What I take from this thread is that if, as some people claim, someone waiting tables can make $100K+ a year, there's something seriously messed up with the gratuity culture in the USA.
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It's not really that hard to fathom. But you're right there is something seriously messed up with a system where servers get paid $2 an hour and have to essentially beg for tips to survive, and even after those tips are given as gifts for good service, they have to pay tax on it too!

In many countries servers are paid a livable wage so they don't have to rely on gifts from customers.

All that said, tips are based typically on a percentage of the bill. So if you work in a high end restaurant in a major city and a couple is spending a few hundred dollars on their meal, it's pretty obvious that their tips are going to be pretty substantial compared to a Hooters in Tennessee.

That said, they are not going to hire any old idiot to work in such a place. Servers in high end establishments are expected to know a lot more about the food and wines being sold, and are probably expected to up sell stuff.

I remember eating in a high end restaurant in San Francisco and they up sold things like adding caviar or freshly grated truffles added to the dish table side. I doubt that happens by accident, I suspect that they are encouraged to sell these extravagant extras.

But, if you're a server in New York making $100K a year, you still have no health benefits, 401K and if you're sick you're making $0. Plus $100K in New York is like $40K in regular America.
 
Pilgrim1099 said:
This Lee character is a poor case study to train Apple employees in how to approach the customer. I don't think many people realize that this persona of Lee is likely based on the demographics of Silicon Valley rather than, say, the east coast for example.
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Perhaps the truly smart Apple salesperson should be asking Lee if he knows of any serving jobs open? ;)
 
Luscious said:
Hello Andriod. I used to swear by Apple. Not after this crap. Talk about a company that's out of touch with its customers. They better offer a great experience for people willing to pay more than ten grand for the watch because those of us with a brain will not only take a pass on the product and pricing but are laughing hysterically that they would attempt such a move in the first place.
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Why so angry? You can't afford one. You're not going to buy one. So what's with all the outrage with a company offering something they believe there is a market for?

Do you think Apple should call you for authorization on pricing before they sell anything? That way they will never sell a product you can't afford?

I used to own a VW GTi that cost me $25K. It didn't make me mad that they also made the Bugatti Veyron that costs a couple of million.

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iPadCary said:
"Mr. Apple" himself, Woz, says this will fail.
He didn't say that about iPod.
He didn't say that about iPhone.
He didn't say that about iPad.
He is, however, saying it about AppleWatch.
I think that bears noting.
Could Woz be wrong? Sure he could. But I don't think he is ....
$18,000 for a $400 watch with $1500 worth of gold in it.
Jesus Christ ....
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Wasn't Woz really just the tech guy? I mean he's never really been the business mind behind Apple.

But you are in fact not correct, because in very recent interview with the Australian Financial Review it was reported that, "Wozniak said he plans to buy an Apple Sport Watch, the cheapest model available, when the watch arrives on the market on April 24."

Buying one one launch day is hardly a sign that he thinks its a failure.

What he said is that the watch needs to do something to justify a place on his wrist. Clearly he is going to see whether or not that's true. He also said he is excited to use it for Apple Pay.

So unless he is going around contradicting himself, seems like he is interested in the product, enough to spend his own cash checking one out.
 
joe613 said:
Apple why have you failed me? Failed us? I have $20,000 in the bank reserved for my Edition but you failed making me WANT IT.
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Dude, it's not even available yet. Why not wait and see it in real life before you get all bent out of shape about it.

My wedding band is 18K white gold, and it is scratch so easily, so why would I want a watch that could so easily get dinged?

I'm not a metallurgist, so I don't know exactly how hard it will be to reclaim the gold from this watch in the future. But I'm guessing you don't know either.

In any case, as I've said before, I really believe that the target audience for this watch is those for whom money is no object, and certain Asian and Middle Eastern countries where owning something gold has huge cultural significance.

I mentioned before, if you go jewelry shopping these days, wedding bands, necklaces, everything, they are all white gold or platinum. Yellow and rose gold just isn't as popular in the west as it used to be.

If Apple offered to lend me any Apple Watch on condition I could never sell it, I'd probably prefer the stainless one.
 
ZCT said:
Why so angry? You can't afford one. You're not going to buy one. So what's with all the outrage with a company offering something they believe there is a market for?

Do you think Apple should call you for authorization on pricing before they sell anything? That way they will never sell a product you can't afford?

I used to own a VW GTi that cost me $25K. It didn't make me mad that they also made the Bugatti Veyron that costs a couple of million.

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Wasn't Woz really just the tech guy? I mean he's never really been the business mind behind Apple.

But you are in fact not correct, because in very recent interview with the Australian Financial Review it was reported that, "Wozniak said he plans to buy an Apple Sport Watch, the cheapest model available, when the watch arrives on the market on April 24."

Buying one one launch day is hardly a sign that he thinks its a failure.

What he said is that the watch needs to do something to justify a place on his wrist. Clearly he is going to see whether or not that's true. He also said he is excited to use it for Apple Pay.

So unless he is going around contradicting himself, seems like he is interested in the product, enough to spend his own cash checking one out.
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The bolded, Apple considers themselves to be a premium brand (what random people think is kind of irrelevant) and they are offering premium products. Nothing the competitors wouldn't try, if they thought there might be a market for such products.
 
The "purchasing experience" should take as long as it takes for anyone buying anything. Apple is becoming more detached from reality every day.
 
OriginalClone said:
lol. You're naive or just ignorant.
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Wow, i really like how detailed and structured your argument was. It really made me think for a minute that maybe I could be wrong. Wait... nope, no it didnt. For one, as ive said before I have two cousins that work in opposite ends of the restaurant spectrum. Neither makes close to 100k, that holds equally true if they actually paid taxes. Not only that but as many others have stated, the stereotype exists for a reason.

Now thats not to say there arent one offs. Im sure there are a small percentage that do very well and can handle multiple high end tables at one time. Or those that work at extremely high end establishments where the final bill averages 1000+. What a lot of people arent taking into account is that 15% on your bill is split between bus boys, kitchen, and hosts/ess. Your entire tip doesnt go right in the servers pocket unless they are scumbags and they are stealing it.

Next time craft a better argument or do some research. :)
 
Pilgrim1099 said:
This Lee character is a poor case study to train Apple employees in how to approach the customer. I don't think many people realize that this persona of Lee is likely based on the demographics of Silicon Valley rather than, say, the east coast for example.

This fashion crap is getting out of hand and Apple needs to get their priorities straight. They still have not revealed how the watches will be upgraded or updated for the value of money that's being spent on.
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Why would they inform you of their business strategy for the watch? They don't for other products. They aren't selling you future generations of watches. They are selling you the first gen. Buy or don't buy.

Everyone is looking into the lee slide way to hard. It was probably to generate discussion in the training.

How have we gotten to the point where we are analyzing how apple trains it's staff. Again, buy or don't buy. That simple.
 
rdlink said:
Yes, I do. I have no reason to lie to you about someone else's money.

WTF? I make far more than $100K per year, and have done so for many years.
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Woah the cockiness is strong with this one. How about you refrain from throwing your salary figures out there huh. What I do like is youre consistent with your lying.

If you couldnt afford a million dollar car after 10 years of making "far more than 100k" then youre doing it wrong. Either that or "far more" means 101k to you.

Im not one to make personal attacks, because again, I really dont care about you. But dude you are either a pathological liar, or you are atrocious with financial management and feel you need to overcompensate for something. Either way, best of luck to you
 
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