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Google Again Criticizes Apple for Not Adopting RCS for Messages App: 'Their Texting is Stuck in the 1990s'

Kar98 said:
It is indeed a thing where pseudo RCS is routed through Google servers instead of the carriers'. Kind of like iMessage...
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Not if Apple implements support just for the Universal Profile. Meaning ... features that Google RCS adds on top would not be supported by iOS in such a scenario ... I'm an advocate of RCS replacing SMS ... Google RCS fails to do so because it has exclusive features (open but still exclusive)... basically fragmenting RCS before its even thing.
 
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jole said:
WhatsApp is clever in how it cripples part of the functionality unless you give it access to a set of iOS APIs. This pushes most users to give access to all their address book and photos to Meta. With that Meta has access to most address books and photos in the world.
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A valid point about the address book, although WhatsApp claims that they only store cryptographic hashes of phone numbers on their servers, not the phone numbers themselves.

But as for photos, that's not how photo sharing works on iOS and WhatsApp. Only photos you actually take within WhatsApp, or select from your photo library, are actually transmitted beyond your phone. The app is certainly not trawling through and uploading your entire photo library, and it would be pretty obvious if it was. Further, WhatsApp claims that conversations and photos are end-to-end encrypted, so WhatsApp can't even see the photos you do send.
 
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DrJR said:
I’m apple, my wife is android, and we have no issue arguing about what is for dinner. I don’t see the ^&*( problem
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The problems start if you want to send a photo, add additional people to your conversation, forward content, insert a voice note, have a private end-to-end encrypted conversation, or anything else that's standard on most modern messaging apps. SMS can do none of these things.
 
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If Apple were really caring about their customer they would adopt RCS.
No downside to users.

But they are not an non profit org so unfortunately they don’t have a reason to implement it. People won’t leave Apple for that.
 
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It’s a mess. Most of my friends are on messenger. A part of my family on iMessage, some on messenger, the older one on sms.

I forgot, when I’m travelling, everybody is on what’s app.

Fml.
 
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TigerNike23 said:
Heck I don’t remember SMS in the 90’s. In the early 90’s, my dad went from a bag phone with a pager to a car phone to a Motorola StarTAC. None of those devices had text capacity.

My mother had a car phone then later a StarTAC.

My sister and I were stuck using payphones.
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My first phone was a startac, it absolutely had texting…
 
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Unregistered 4U said:
Do you believe that the EU would be pleased to hand over all messaging in EU countries to Googles “Google RCS” solution? Actually, they’re handing over cell phone OS control to Apple and Google, so maybe so?

And, if they’re pushing for non-EU company solutions anyway, why not WhatsApp? Already way more popular in the EU by far than Google RCS.
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RCS is a messaging standard. Like Html is a protocol for websites or xmpp would be another protocol for exchanging messages.

Nothing is given to Google. Are there more people like you who claim that Apple is under attack while not understanding what they are talking about?
 
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iMessage will be left behind. The world is embracing RCS. iMessage will become another FireWire
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FireWire became thunderbolt which is now usb C. So apple usually sets the bar then everything else catches up. iMessage and high quality attachments like photos and videos has been the gold standard for ages. Messenger still only send photos in a compress resolution. Nothing native. iMessage is still better than any other messaging service app. Android was still using SMS as the standard messaging app not that long ago.
 
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Two huge corporations fighting for a larger piece of the pie. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't think any of this is really done for the benefit of the customers. I think SMS should have stayed like that. Just for short text messages. Everyone else are better served by cross platform services like WhatsApp. Apple in the past (when it was convenient for Apple to gain market share) embraced standards and accused larger corporations of not embracing those standards. It is just a corporate strategy. As a customer I would prefer to see cross platform compatibility and standards. Corporations usually hate standards, because they thrive in differentiation from competitors. All in all I can live with the blue and green.
 
ThatGuyInLa said:
192 years and we've come full circle. We wanted a way forward from the telegraph. Then Phones. Then video phones! Then mobile phones! Then mobile video phones! Now all we want is the that damn telegraph machine in our pocket. It's all we care about. It took nearly 200 years to realize the first method was the best method.
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I have said this to so many people who prefer texting to voice calling or FaceTime. Pointing out that they are essentially saying the telegraph was superior.
 
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Flood4 said:
If Apple were really caring about their customer they would adopt RCS.
No downside to users.

But they are not an non profit org so unfortunately they don’t have a reason to implement it. People won’t leave Apple for that.
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The downside is that a major competitor is currently in the driver’s seat of RCS. Not only has Google implemented RCS but I understand that they have extended it. Outside the USA the carrier support is not there. And finally, Google ignored RCS for years to implement proprietary messaging platforms that they eventually abandoned. The only difference for Apple is that iMessage was successful. What happens if Google steers RCS in a direction to undermine Apple or if Google abandons RCS and steers users to another proprietary measaging service.
 
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so people using Android OS are complaining that messaging experience is poor when they are messaging people with iPhones.
They could use What's App, WeChat, Signal, telegram but they don't want to use cross platform apps.
But they want Apple to re write iMessages app using RCS protocol for iPhone, MacOS, Watch, iPad.
Why are people so entitled ?

I use iPhone and Mac, when i want to chat with people that don't use iPhone i use What's App.
 
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dk001 said:
Sad thing is RCS works every bit as good as iMessage.
Be better to see these groups work together.
On a global scale iMessage is second rate.
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may be RCS is good but why should Apple re write iMessages app for MacOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch ?
If iMessages is second rate then don't use it, no one is forcing you to use it.
people have options, What's App, WeChat, Signal, Telegram, Google Chat.
 
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I’m with Google on this occasion. Apple needs to rethink their position on this. Not least because they compromise their own users by encouraging them to use a vintage messaging protocol when communicating with people who have the temerity to not own an Apple device. It’s not like iMessage is even that good. Try using it reliably on an iPad over wired ethernet…a total ****show. Also it’s insecure if you use iCloud backup because the non-e2e backup contains the encryption keys to your messages. Genius 🙄
 
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