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My first phone was a startac, it absolutely had texting…

This was my model (although mine said Ameritech) and it did not have texting capabilities.
 
The problems start if you want to send a photo, add additional people to your conversation, forward content, insert a voice note, have a private end-to-end encrypted conversation, or anything else that's standard on most modern messaging apps. SMS can do none of these things.
Use modern messaging apps, prob;em solved. Apple doesnt have to re write iMessages for all of their products.
 
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As an Apple user myself, I'm not going to get Android any time soon. I can't see any reason why I would root for Apple on this one. There are zero disadvantages for us as Apple users for Apple to adopt RCS. iMessage would still live on as a proprietary stack at the top of it all, RCS as the fallback option and SMS as a last resort. This will provide us with much better cross-platform compatibility when messaging people that are not using iOS. Why wouldn't we want this?
Not sure of it is worth investing resources in implementing this. RCS is only supported by a very small number of providers worldwide. Why invest in RCS when the SMS fallback is on every network.
This seems to be a US only discussion and thus affects around 4.25% of the world population.
 
Apple would never adopt RCS because iMessage is literally the only reason people even continue to buy iPhones. From a feature perspective Android offers much more. Apple relies on making people feel afraid to leave rather than creating a better product.

If apple ever adds RCS, watch their sales go way down. That's what apple is afraid of the most. They can't compete so they trap people in.
 
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I remember Apple keynotes where Emojis were presented as a new key feature. Focus is clear. RC my S. What is it anyway? Well, never mind.
 
Poor my bank account. Poor stagnation of the industry. Poor inability to connect across platforms.

Hopefully Apple’s reign is coming to an end. We need a company with energy to spur innovation on. Apple’s sole focus is retaining its profit margins.

It won’t come to an end if folk are too lazy to move to another platform, will it?
 
But in Europe we tend to travel over borders....a lot! And data roaming as part of your plan is common but SMS roaming usually is not. So SMSs can cost a lot!
Fair point. I’m searching the sim minefield at the moment as I’m heading over there at the end of the month (4 countries).
 
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Apple would never adopt RCS because iMessage is literally the only reason people even continue to buy iPhones. From a feature perspective Android offers much more. Apple relies on making people feel afraid to leave rather than creating a better product.

If apple ever adds RCS, watch their sales go way down. That's what apple is afraid of the most. They can't compete so they trap people in.
Considering your first sentence is so laughably false, I'm not even going to bother with the rest
 
Fair point. I’m searching the sim minefield at the moment as I’m heading over there at the end of the month (4 countries).
If you have a recent phone supporting eSIMs then how about using something like Airalo. They have data packs for Europe so you might cover all your needs and it will keep your main SIM active as well ......
.....that is unless you need SMS as that is not included. No green bubbles 😈.
 
‘The bad experience you deal with when texting android users is because they’re android users!’
 
Here's the issue: many people outside the USA are using WhatsApp and WeChat as their messaging services. And both are cross-platform messaging services, avoiding the RCS versus iMessage fight.
Yep, I hardly understood what’s this topic about when all my messaging goes via 3rd party applications as it goes on PC.

Last time I run out of mobile data and tried to send SMS, iPhone failed to do that without Internet access. Isn’t iMessage supposed to work over cellphone SMS?
 
I just wish I didn’t have to use WhatsApp.

I also have a friend that uses iMessage with me, but will send pictures and videos via WhatsApp. Which cracks me up but annoys me to the core 😆
 
If you have a recent phone supporting eSIMs then how about using something like Airalo. They have data packs for Europe so you might cover all your needs and it will keep your main SIM active as well ......
.....that is unless you need SMS as that is not included. No green bubbles 😈.
I do (12Pro). Thanks. Didn’t want to ask, but wanted to ask 😃
 
Ok enough is enough, I have to standup and help Google out: if you guys want blue bubbles, here is the hexa CSS code: #0000ff. You're welcome.
 
The carriers will have to push Apple to do RCS if they want it. Apple isn't going to support it just because Google wants to whine about it. If the carriers deprecated SMS and said that they would discontinue support then Apple would switch to RCS.
As said by someone else above this is so old hat. The only ones that use the message app in my world are my bank and my dentist. Everyone i know uses WhatsApp. Agree that RCS is far superior to SMS but neither is relevant to me. We all know that Apple always adopt the "Not invented here" mode.
 
Here's the issue: many people outside the USA are using WhatsApp and WeChat as their messaging services. And both are cross-platform messaging services, avoiding the RCS versus iMessage fight.
This is the actual competition. WhatsApp/WeChat might have a larger user base than iMessage (actually using iMessage, not the ones auto-enabled by Apple).
 
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