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Google Again Criticizes Apple for Not Adopting RCS for Messages App: 'Their Texting is Stuck in the 1990s'
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If only google’s version of RCS was actually a legit base standard
Apple could implement RCS, but why should they? They'd be swapping one technology that their customer base don't use very often (because the people they text are using iPhones, so it goes through iMessage) for a different one that every phone manufacturer would have to implement.
Each time a change is introduced, iOS has to be updated, Android has to be updated etc. Samsung has to wait for the GM/RC build of Android in order to implement and test their own software.
What if Phone A cannot be updated anymore, and Phone B sends them a message using the latest format of RCS? What happens then?
It's a bag of hurt to support new standards. Apple created their own standard: iMessage. It works.
Each time a change is introduced, iOS has to be updated, Android has to be updated etc. Samsung has to wait for the GM/RC build of Android in order to implement and test their own software.
What if Phone A cannot be updated anymore, and Phone B sends them a message using the latest format of RCS? What happens then?
It's a bag of hurt to support new standards. Apple created their own standard: iMessage. It works.
Um, how long do you think that took? Seriously?
I actually think this is a reason for Apple to support RCS.
In Europe we use WhatsApp because we know it’s free to message someone. With iMessage there’s a risk of green bubbles and having to pay for picture or video message at a stupidly high price per message.
If I knew it would be free even if I sent a picture to an android user from the messages app it would mean I didn’t need to use WhatsApp at all.
The benefits that brings are worthwhile to me and Apple - WhatsApp doesn’t let me control things like messages - for example I can stop unknown numbers messaging my daughter with messages but can’t with WhatsApp.
The carrier’s version of RCS is useless, and Google’s version isnt the standard and relies on their relay servers to work in addition. That’s the core problem
If the carriers consistently supported a useful version of RCS as an upgrade to SMS I suspect Apple would adopt it even without a cudgel
Users would still not switch from WhatsApp / SnapChat.
Google is just wanting more market share, that's all.
No one cares about RCS. Or SMS. Or iMessage, for that matter. Hate to say it, but WhatsApp is king.
Does Apple have what it takes to be a leader in messaging again?
Does Apple have what it takes to be a leader in messaging again?
Dear Google
We're fine over here. You do you.
Besides, anything that differentiates the iPhone from whatever-the-hell you're currently using to mine your customer's data is what we call a "feature".
Sorry your green bubbles highlight just how much you suck, but not really.
"Sent from my iPhone"
We're fine over here. You do you.
Besides, anything that differentiates the iPhone from whatever-the-hell you're currently using to mine your customer's data is what we call a "feature".
Sorry your green bubbles highlight just how much you suck, but not really.
"Sent from my iPhone"
There's a switch in Settings > Messages > "Send as SMS". Turn that off and you won't get charged (but you also won't send the message - pretty sure iOS will give you options on what to do in that case).
To be fair, you should know that sending an SMS might be charged as part of your mobile plan. Most plans gift you unlimited SMS anyway these days.
Most users in Europe have long moved on to other messaging platforms. It boggles the mind people in the US still use SMS or that they think iMessage is in any way superior to other messaging platforms.
Ahhh the battle for standardization. Just wait a bit for EU law on cross compatibility of messaging apps to kick in. This will be interesting…
yes WhatsApp is kind outside of the United States, but that isn't a market that is what the battle is over.
Anytime Google pushes others to do something, we know there are some motives.
But at the same time, they keep dropping their services over the years.
But at the same time, they keep dropping their services over the years.
There’s always that one friend or family member that ruins everything by having Android. That’s the problem that needs to be fixed 🤌🏻🔥
We had texting in the 1990s and yes, that’s exactly how it worked. There was also predictive texting, T9, but I never figured that out.
Inside the US, WhatsApp is a joke. Nobody uses it, unless you have friends who live in foreign countries. It's not the solution, and it's a crappy one at that.
I don't. You recall Google started this smear campaign a long time ago, right?
They just started rolling out their beta of end-to-end encryption for group messages. That means every day from the day the previous smear campaign started until today, Google expected Apple to pretend that RCS was secure enough.
I have zero expectation RCS is actually up to par even today. Last I heard, Google's end-to-end encryption for one-on-one chats wasn't even part of the standard. It was an undocumented extension.
That's subjective - just like my experience of WA.
I bought a new phone and WA wouldn't restore my chats. I tried everything. I got in touch with WA and they said my phone number had never been used with WA before so there was nothing to restore. It definitely had. So I ignored the backups (that definitely existed) and tried to set it up as a new account using that number. It said it's already in use and would I like to restore? Didn't work either way, so I stopped using it altogether.
A lot of my friends don't use WA because it's just unreliable and buggy. YMMV.