This is essentially the reason why iPhones uses green/blue bubbles for the sender.
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Google Again Criticizes Apple for Not Adopting RCS for Messages App: 'Their Texting is Stuck in the 1990s'
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You should be more specific. You can already do that with third party apps, and with emails.
All Google wants is to create a messaging duopoly and they want Apple to help them do it by adopting RCS and working seamlessly with Google Messages.
Basically Google is a massive failure in the messaging area with over a dozen failed attempts to create a viable platform, and after all that failure they expect Apple to bail them out.
Basically Google is a massive failure in the messaging area with over a dozen failed attempts to create a viable platform, and after all that failure they expect Apple to bail them out.
Whilst google is stuck in the Cold War mentality that would shame the KGB
The comments on here are comical. RCS was not developed by Google and isn't in competition with iMessage. It's just a development on the SMS standard of communication. Google and many others have simply adopted it.. I mean RTFA.
It's a bit like shooting yourself in the foot to spite yourself lol. I get apple loves it's closed garden but at this point I think it's just pushing people away.
It's a bit like shooting yourself in the foot to spite yourself lol. I get apple loves it's closed garden but at this point I think it's just pushing people away.
Genuine question here, what is terrible about it.. I mean tell me one way it would actually make anything worse for apple users.
Personally I can think of several ways it would benefit them.
People like me who use Android do so because of the freedom it offers and the way it integrates so nicely into Windows. Why would anyone compromise on that just for a messaging service?
This.
Many of these comments are just hard to read because they are so naive and full of undigested brand loyalty to Apple.
Guys they are not adopting it because they want to push their iMessage lock in as long as they can. This is not innovation and not progress.
The side effect, however comically is, that they are giving Google their own iMessage, as RCS will effectively become the low key alternative to installing new apps on Android. I think what Apple are doing is making wrong extrapolations from the US market to the world.
Just so you know, text bubble on iPhones have always been green prior to the introduction of iMessage.
Nice try. Try harder.
Ok, let wait until 2023 and see if Google still trumpet this figure and assess if we see any trend. Or do you have the trend data?
You seem very impartial calling out Apple on their refusal to adopt RCS.
Maybe educate me how, if Apple implemented the RCS Universal Profile (which is the standard as published by the GSMA), will it benefit me, an iPhone user, when my service provider does not support RCS? In fact none of the service provider in my part of the world implements/supports RCS.
I don't even use the iPhone built-in Messages apps (and that means not using iMessage) except when receiving SMS OTP and spam messages .... sigh. How is Apple locking me in with iMessage? I have no problem sending texts, high quality pictures and videos to my friends using Android phones.
I guess I am now defending Apple due to my undigested brand loyalty to Apple?
Getting away from apple vs google vs meta vs telcos...
I'd like to see some sort of (E2E) messaging standard work - it's irritating seeing messaging products being unable to talk to each other.
Email - although by default unencrypted - is ubiquitous and is not going away soon because it's a universally supported standard.
I'm not sure why Apple keep on seeing iMessage as one of the key things that keep people using iPhones.
(I would guess that TC is keen on iMessage as (allegedly) Memojis will be used heavily in the upcoming Apple VR headset
).
In the UK - where I am - pretty much most people use WhatsApp for cross-device messaging (I don't because I don't trust Meta).
iMessage just isn't a culturally significant thing here that signals that you have a certain level of disposable income (which I think that it might be in the USA?).
So if Apple's strategy is to use iMessage to 'lock people into iPhone' for the most part, this has failed.
I'd like to see some sort of (E2E) messaging standard work - it's irritating seeing messaging products being unable to talk to each other.
Email - although by default unencrypted - is ubiquitous and is not going away soon because it's a universally supported standard.
I'm not sure why Apple keep on seeing iMessage as one of the key things that keep people using iPhones.
(I would guess that TC is keen on iMessage as (allegedly) Memojis will be used heavily in the upcoming Apple VR headset
).In the UK - where I am - pretty much most people use WhatsApp for cross-device messaging (I don't because I don't trust Meta).
iMessage just isn't a culturally significant thing here that signals that you have a certain level of disposable income (which I think that it might be in the USA?).
So if Apple's strategy is to use iMessage to 'lock people into iPhone' for the most part, this has failed.
Agreed.
Here again is Apple improving on an old industry standard and now the industry has caught up and pushing the easer to follow suit so it has validation lol.
That said I have to agree going with RCS as a base standard yet keeping iMessage.
We’ve all seen how great BlackBerry’s BBM was in its heyday along with PIN 2 PIN messaging. We all remember how quickly that fell and how annoying it got to receive PIN or BBM messages from people unknown and in the personal data space and that really became terrible spam.
I’m now seeing this with iMessage even though when I initiate and receive iMessages using my cellular provides text number. See attached.
“iMessage will be left behind. The world is embracing RCS. iMessage will become another FireWire”
Omg. FireWire 400 was widely adopted as industry standard to transfer HD handy am acídelos for PC/Mac editing. FW800 as hard drive companies for max also used it as a standard. Each lasting close to 7+yrs.
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This time I agree with Google. RCS implementation could simplify the default texting app for ALL smartphones. It can be future proof and platform-agnostic.
So as long as RCS isn't created by Google (along with tons of craps made it to killedbygoogle.com) then I want it on my iPhone.
So as long as RCS isn't created by Google (along with tons of craps made it to killedbygoogle.com) then I want it on my iPhone.
Didn't think I needed to specifically mention that I was talking about the native messaging app.
Apple doesn't control the protocol, try again. All Apple can do is utilize it in their messaging environment. They can't change it, modify it, or otherwise hamper it from progressing.
Or better yet just get WhatsApp, LINE or WeChat (depending on the location of the people you communicate with).
Outside the USA, that is. Because even in Canada, Mexico and other countries that are also part of North America people do use those five major messaging apps you mentioned. Just not in the USA.
Because the only phone OS there is other than Android is Apple’s iOS. It’s a duopoly, there are really no other options.
That’s besides the point. That poster is stating the carriers only support the version of RCS that goes through Google’s own servers, not implementation at the carrier level.
They're starting to but it's really slow because it costs money to implement and then they have to figure out how to recoup that expenditure through the protocol. Once all the carriers support and implement vanilla RCS, then you'll see Apple switch over. There's no point in switching over now because no one is using vanilla RCS consistently.