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This is basically pointless. In the United Staes iOS has a majority share and iMessage is on by default. SMS automatically works and it’s free, so no one cares and you don’t have to think about it.

In Europe majority are on WhatsApp…
No really, have you ever tried to send a photo or video to an Android user via iMessage. You may think it works based on what you see in the app, but the Android user receives pixelated garbage. That's what needs to be fixed here.
 
I just use WhatsApp. Everyone has it on their phone. The only SMS texts I get are those "enter this code" ID verification texts. And the only people who ever send me Apple iMessages are Americans!

Almost no-one uses WhatsApp in Norway. I have never used it and I only know one person who has it.
 
All the *US* carriers can use RCS. The joy of SMS is that every carrier in the world supports it. I can text my mother-in-law and not care which country she’s in. Sorted.
 
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Poor my bank account. Poor stagnation of the industry. Poor inability to connect across platforms.

Hopefully Apple’s reign is coming to an end. We need a company with energy to spur innovation on. Apple’s sole focus is retaining its profit margins.

Please explain how not implementing RCS, something that doesn't even support E2EE without Google's proprietary extension, is an example of Apple "lagging behind competitors".
 
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Lots of people here are confused as to what Google is asking for... They aren't asking Apple to replace iMessage with RCS. They are asking Apple to replace SMS with RCS.

SMS is technology from the 90s. It sucks. RCS is a more modern version of SMS. It's a lot better.

Apple users will benefit in every conversation they have with their family/friends that don't have iPhones.
RCS is a halfbaked pile of trash. Apple is right in their to refusal to adopt it
 
iMessage will be left behind. The world is embracing RCS. iMessage will become another FireWire
Not likely given the installed user base, but the lack of an agreed upon common standard is a big drawback. For international messaging and where iOS is the smaller platform, there is no doubt iMessage is less useful and in many cases, for travelers, more expensive requiring an international plan if you are not on wifi when you need it.
 
That's great. But when my iPhone friends text me a multimedia file it looks like ass because it ends up being regular SMS regardless. So the iMessage benefit is useless. At least with RCS we could exchange files with comparable quality. That's the whole point.
Then get an iOS device and stop with the complaining. Apple is under no obligation to cater to those on Android
 
If the telegraph would have been instantaneous to the individual person you wanted to reach and didn't require morse code to decipher, there would have been no need for much of that.
I wonder if anyone, back then, attempted a mechanical computer that would allow the user to use a conventional typewriter style entry device and it converted the letters to Morse? Then did the reverse on the other side? Printing letters. I know nothing of that old tech. I could be speaking lunacy, or it was actually done at some point.
 
Funny. All over the entire world people are picking Apple iPhones just for this messaging that is supposedly stuck in the 90’s. Sounds like somebody is jealous.
No one is jealous. I am not sure you really understand what is going on. In terms cross platform compatibility, iMessage is light years behind. I travel internationally regularly for business and I can't even begin to fully communicate how much more difficult this makes messaging and the added expense.
 
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iOS users are generating revenue for Apple, when iOS users are happy with iPhones why would Apple spend money on making Android users happy ?
And who knows when Google will ditch RCS, they have tendency to dith products.
I am iOS user, i don't want RCS, i am happy with iMessages.
Amd Google is desperate now.
 
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No one cares about RCS. Or SMS. Or iMessage, for that matter. Hate to say it, but WhatsApp is king.

Does Apple have what it takes to be a leader in messaging again?
Depends on where, inside the US (Apple’s home market and still their largest single market), iPhones are now more common than all Android phones combined and iMessage is king. That’s why the blue/green bubble thing is such a part of US culture right now and the rest of the world is confused lol
 
iMessage will be left behind. The world is embracing RCS. iMessage will become another FireWire
we are OK with iMessages, Google can use RCS.
it took how many years for Google to create a decent messaging app ?
after how many iterations ?
they prbably ki;;ed 3 messaging apps in last 5 years.
 
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In Europe we use WhatsApp because we know it’s free to message someone. With iMessage there’s a risk of green bubbles and having to pay for picture or video message at a stupidly high price per message.
This becomes the telcos fault.

In Australia no one ever looks at sms cost or call costs. We pay for the data only as every plan has unlimited texts and calls.
 
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RCS is better all around than SMS. Why is everyone here being pro Apple when clearly apple is in the wrong?

Because Google is not asking everyone to use the standard and open RCS that the carriers are supporting. They are asking that everyone use their fork of it with their extensions that pass through their infrastructure. Do you think Google is just trying to be nice and make sure you have pretty videos and group texts with your android friends for no reason?
 
Google can't adopt Facetime or iMessage as Apple won't allow it. So, in this case, Apple needs to play nice with others. Steve Jobs even said that Facetime would be open source and that never materialized. People should be able to communicate on a unified standard and not keep others out because they won't want to buy their product.



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