Time to double down Tim. We need phones twice as thin for twice the money. That will definitely be the innovation that will cause to come customers crawling back.
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Google Again Surpasses Apple as Most Valuable Company in the World
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https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/12/apple-most-valuable-brand-2016-forbes/
I'll just leave this here...
I'll just leave this here...
I get sad about Apple when I see Elon Musk's work.
Apple, go and mingle in the corner with Nokia & Blackberry. You have a lot in common to reminisce about.
Honestly not at all surprising. I hope Apple can pull a rabbit out of its hat and actually wow people again. The only reason I moved from the 6 to 6S was for 2GB RAM, 3D touch is useless for me and I forget about it 99% of the time. Siri is just awful and has rightfully earned a disabled setting on my device. Maps, well maps is garbage and has been for awhile. Apple Music is still a hot mess with the UI and does random things I don't quite understand.
I'm not saying Apple has lost their magic, but at the price point they want to sell everything at there are plenty of competitors who could start wooing customers away. I know it happened for me with my macbook.
I'm not saying Apple has lost their magic, but at the price point they want to sell everything at there are plenty of competitors who could start wooing customers away. I know it happened for me with my macbook.
not suprised given the products they have announced lately, and if the iPhone 7 rumours are true , things are going to get a lot worse before they improve.
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That made me lol......but.....a few more years like this and it's spot on.
Approx $50 per share in cash, plus physical assets, plus projected quarterly profit still at $10+ billion per quarter. Oh, and a decent dividend, and buy-back program in place.
Based on this, the share price is approaching it's floor.
And that's using its historically low ratios (P/E, etc). Use Google's, Amazon's, or any of the other companies of that size (heck, use the P/E of the big oil companies) and Apple is undervalued by about 50%.
Having said that, I agree that the magic has faded. In the end, a computer/phone/etc is just a tool. Up until recently, the best tool (for me) has been the one built by Apple. Recently however, this isn't necessarily the case.
Based on this, the share price is approaching it's floor.
And that's using its historically low ratios (P/E, etc). Use Google's, Amazon's, or any of the other companies of that size (heck, use the P/E of the big oil companies) and Apple is undervalued by about 50%.
Having said that, I agree that the magic has faded. In the end, a computer/phone/etc is just a tool. Up until recently, the best tool (for me) has been the one built by Apple. Recently however, this isn't necessarily the case.
It had nothing to with being able to predict the market or being rich. Your response to his post shows you have no idea what your talking about. He was referring to stock/share appreciation and market value. Try not to troll Macrumors.
Why would anybody care about who is number 1?
Give them an attaboy award or show #1 with another finger?
Most value, least taxes paid, most slave laborers, biggest tax evaders , best human rights abusers etc.etc.
(Just mentioning a few things posters think Apple leads)
All man made concepts of evaluation.
Me myself personally, as they say , don't have one penny more from this.
I'd think differently (Like Apple wants me to) if I had stock.
Until I do, let them go to work and figure out how to improve.
Give them an attaboy award or show #1 with another finger?
Most value, least taxes paid, most slave laborers, biggest tax evaders , best human rights abusers etc.etc.
(Just mentioning a few things posters think Apple leads)
All man made concepts of evaluation.
Me myself personally, as they say , don't have one penny more from this.
I'd think differently (Like Apple wants me to) if I had stock.
Until I do, let them go to work and figure out how to improve.
It'll probably make the iphone 0.1 mm thicker so that's a no go.
Lol Apple still makes more in a single quarter from iPhone than Google ever has Android, in all the years it's been available combined. In fact, I believe Google makes more from ad impressions on iOS than it makes from lisencing Android.
And with all the extremely lackluster rumors about the iPhone 7 in Sept '16 - seems the 2017 iPhone is getting more hype lately - Updates for the watch seemed to have come to a complete standstill...I kind of wonder if us original Apple Watch buyers will even get a new update before the AW2? The unimpressive latest MacBook - this trend will continue. iTunes, Apple Music overhauls...No idea what the heck is happening with Apple!
Man. Everyone hates everyone and everything in these forums...
Shrinking a laptop into a hand held computer is definitely what lead to the Newton, the iPod, the iPhone and iPad. But it took someone with more than a few tricks to figure out the Newton sucked and should be simplified to only play music to later fund the projects to make that hand held computer more capable. What does a moving mechanical industrial consumer product have to do with a computer other than the computer that lives within it? What will they call it?
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Cart?The funny thing is, Apple actually holds their value in cash and assets right now. This wouldn't even include brand value, future revenue etc. The market simply wants Apple to fail, ridiculous. They are completely undervalued
Apple 2015: 233 billion in revenue.
Google 2015: 74.54 billion in revenue. (Although I see Alphabet at 74.99, so not sure if that should be added together, or one was before the name change?)
Wall Street - They are worth the same.
Google 2015: 74.54 billion in revenue. (Although I see Alphabet at 74.99, so not sure if that should be added together, or one was before the name change?)
Wall Street - They are worth the same.
Don't forget split screen, wacom stylus support, waterproof, amoled, microsd, mouse support, and a file manager too is included with android devices especially samsungs...the iphone practically has a long way to catch up
Symbian RIP, could multi-task, before Android existed. So not new. Nokia may have had wireless charging in their windows phone before any Android phones ( need to confirm ).
File mangers are not new to smartphones, Symbian had this before Android - again, before Android existed.
A feature isn't an innovation if it already existed previously.
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Apparently a LOT of people here when it's Apple in the #1 slot of any (positive connotation) list.
Let them slip to #2 or below though and the list is nonsense, the measurements are flawed, and a wide variety of moving the goalpost redirection ("but who makes the most profit from a single model of phone" and "who has the most cash in the bank," etc).
Patent system is fine when it's working for Apple, broken when it's working against.
And so on. You've been in this community long enough to know the drill.
MacRumors will never report when Apple goes ahead again. MacRumors just reports bad news about Apple constantly.
I'm sure there is probably something a little more complex going on. Given this is revenue and not profit you cannot compare the numbers since Apple would obviously have much lower profit off those numbers given they are a hardware company while Google is a services company.
We didn't say all of those were innovations but at least android offers it....it's quite a long list