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Seriously, who gives a crap? Anyone remotely interested in this dinosaur "rock" band bought the albums or CDs long ago. This is dumb. Almost as dumb as calling a gimped Internet tablet "magical".
 
I mean sure I know people who don't like the beatles but they all acknowlage that they were a great band, never have I seen so many people with such misinformed hate. It's is a new low for this forum.


As disclosure, I love the Beatles, but come on...hate? That word is so overused nowadays that it has lost all meaning.
 
Is anyone else really surprised by the performance of the Box Set? It's the #11 album on all of iTunes right now, beating all but 3 of The Beatles' own studio albums!
That's quite something considering it costs $150.

Yes, I certainly am. I didn't figure that many people would pop for $150.00. It just show the "legs" that the boys music still has. I think it's great to see. This is going to expose their music to a lot more people. Sure, everybody has heard of them, but being able to preview the songs right on your computer,phone or tablet and buy them on the spot, is going to really take things to a whole other level.

Successful sales or not Apple are going to be remembered for this day as way over hyped way under delivered. It's a big red X for Apple.

Nonsense. I find it amazing that so many people are freaking out because Apple made a big deal out of landing The Beatles. OMG, they took over the whole front page of apple.com! They told us it was going to be an unforgettable day! The jerks!

What did you expect them to do? Just issue a press release: "Oh, by the way, The Beatles are now on iTunes. We didn't want to make too big of a deal over this, after all, they broke up 40 years ago. We just thought we should let you know. You probably don't care, if you did, you probably already have their music."

I was a huge major coup for them to finally pull this off. They have been working of this deal for years. Of course they are going to make a big deal over it. If I was Steve, I would have done even more.
 
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I don't tink anyone is saying they don't want The Beatles in the iTunes Store. More music the better. It's just the way Apple went about it. We didn't need this way over hyped lack luster event. Especially don't need The Beatles over taking the whole Apple home page. I thought Apple sold computers and software and are not a record label.
 
I don't tink anyone is saying they don't want The Beatles in the iTunes Store. More music the better. It's just the way Apple went about it. We didn't need this way over hyped lack luster event. Especially don't need The Beatles over taking the whole Apple home page. I thought Apple sold computers and software and are not a record label.

If you consider a webpage change and some catchy words an event then yeah sure.
 
I'd say that's because people who listen to the Beatles are a bit more sophisticated than Ke$ha fans and can actually appreciate an album in its entirety. Not to mention the number of good songs on a Beatles album is much higher than the number of "good" songs on a Ke$ha album. Most albums today are mostly filler.

You're right Ke$ha doesn't top the albums, iTS US has #1 and #2 albums Rihanna and Glee, Beatles start at #7 but have a lot in close succession.

I call BS.

They held out on digital distribution so they could sell the re-issued box set on CD and Vinyl. Now that they have milked everything they can out of those markets they are finally selling on iTunes.

Maybe, but the CD sets were released 14 months ago.
 
I don't tink anyone is saying they don't want The Beatles in the iTunes Store. More music the better. It's just the way Apple went about it. We didn't need this way over hyped lack luster event. Especially don't need The Beatles over taking the whole Apple home page. I thought Apple sold computers and software and are not a record label.

The ONLY people who overhyped the event are the people who are now butt hurt that the announcement wasn't about something else.

"OMG this is GOnNA BE ABouT tEH cloUD iTUNEZ!!!one!11!! This event is gonna be hugezorz!!!1"
:rolleyes:
 
Could this exclusivity result in an anti-trust law suit?

Nope. There are things like this all the time. Not to mention that there's no monopoly since you can already buy it on CD.

who cares.... !

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^^ I guess that answers your question? Not to mention the sales numbers...


I think the amount of negatives to positives should paint you a clear picture.

You actually think the ratings on MR mean ANYTHING? :rolleyes:


Some serious hating going on about all this, seems like from all over the web this was a huge failure for Apple.

Let's see, lots of sales and some whining from fanboys who wanted Powerbook G5/xMac/cloud iTunes/A Pony. Yeah, that sure is a failure.

If someone doesn't like the beatles, that's their prerogative. But trying to spin personal taste into a company's "failure" just comes off as whining and trolling.
 
The Joke Is On Apple

Right now Amazon is selling the brand new remastered Beatles CD's for $7.99 apiece. Free shipping for orders over $25 and no sales tax. So, after all the years of hype and negotiations, Apple just got blown out of the water. It will take a few seconds to import each CD into your library, but for $5 bucks per album, that's a no-brainer. The red and blue compilation albums are $12.99 at Amazon vs. $19.99 on iTunes.
 
Billboard reports that the multi-year holdup in bringing The Beatles to iTunes was in large part a result of squabbling between record label EMI and Beatles holding company Apple Corps, neither of which had the sole power to reach a deal for digital distribution of Beatles content.

On the other side, Apple Corps' Jeff Jones, who took over the reigns of the company in 2007, has also been credited with bringing a fresh willingness to negotiate to the table.
Side note: Another reason this is a pretty big deal is that it (for now at least) resolves decades of sparring between the two corporations. The genuinely bad blood between Apple Computer and the Beatle's label started long before the iTunes store was even a glimmer in SJ's eye, with multiple big, rancorous and long-lasting trademark disputes.

History of trademark disputes between Apple Corps and Apple Computer

1978–1981

In 1978, Apple Corps, the Beatles-founded holding company and owner of their record label, Apple Records, filed a lawsuit against Apple Computer for trademark infringement. The suit was settled in 1981 with an undisclosed amount being paid to Apple Corps. This amount had been estimated to be US$50–US$250 million, but was later revealed to be US$80,000.[1] As a condition of the settlement, Apple Computer agreed not to enter the music business, and Apple Corps agreed not to enter the computer business.[2][3]

1986–1989

In 1986, Apple Computer added MIDI and audio-recording capabilities to its computers, including the advanced 5503 sound chip from famous synthesizer maker Ensoniq into the Apple IIGS line. In 1989, this led Apple Corps to sue again, claiming violation of the 1981 settlement agreement.[2] The outcome of this litigation effectively spelled the end of any further development of the highly profitable Apple II line, all forays at the time by Apple Computer into the multimedia field in parallel with the Amiga, and any future advanced built-in musical hardware in the Macintosh line.[citation needed]

1991

In 1991, another settlement involving payment of around US$26.5 million to Apple Corps was reached.[4] This time[clarification needed], an Apple employee named Jim Reekes had included a sampled system sound called Chimes to the Macintosh operating system (the sound was later renamed to sosumi, to be read phonetically as “so sue me”). Outlined in the settlement was each company’s respective trademark rights to the term “Apple”. Apple Corps held the right to use Apple on any “creative works whose principal content is music”, while Apple Computer held the right to use Apple on “goods or services...used to reproduce, run, play or otherwise deliver such content”, but not on content distributed on physical media.[5] In other words, Apple Computer agreed that it would not package, sell or distribute physical music materials.

2003–2006

In September 2003, Apple Corps sued Apple Computer again, this time for breach of contract, in using the Apple logo in the creation and operation of Apple Computer’s iTunes Music Store, which Apple Corps contended was a violation of the previous agreement....​

Until....

On 5 February 2007, Apple Inc. and Apple Corps announced a settlement of their trademark dispute under which Apple Inc. will own all of the trademarks related to “Apple” and will license certain of those trademarks back to Apple Corps for their continued use. The settlement ends the ongoing trademark lawsuit between the companies, with each party bearing its own legal costs, and Apple Inc. will continue using its name and logos on iTunes. The settlement includes terms that are confidential, although newspaper accounts at the time stated that Apple Computer was buying out Apple Corps' trademark rights for a total of $500 million U.S.​

So... ...only the fact that both sides were beginning to look forward by then to how both could make a slug of money from getting the Beatles on iTunes probably avoided another big suit from "Apple Corp" when Apple Computer became (no similarity here!) "Apple, Inc." :cool:
 
Yep no one cares on this internet forum but look at the sales already. Its certainly been a good move for Apple and Apple. The £125 box set is 31st in the album chart, thats amazing!

So maybe you don't care but a hell of a lot of other people obviously care.
 
The Sales Speak for Themselves

For those who think "nobody cares." keep in mind that two or three of the Beatles albums are in the top 10 on iTunes already. And the remastered CD's that were released last year were among the top sellers for the year.

What passes for "music" in today's market, like the recycled rap junk and the high octave wailing that gets played on the radio is pretty sick. One only wonders what will happen when kiddie pop and junk music lose their appeal completely. Will artists go back to things like harmony and melody?

We can only hope!
 
I don't tink anyone is saying they don't want The Beatles in the iTunes Store. More music the better. It's just the way Apple went about it. We didn't need this way over hyped lack luster event. Especially don't need The Beatles over taking the whole Apple home page. I thought Apple sold computers and software and are not a record label.

Overhype? 1 day of hype? Get over it and play with your junky Apple products :D
 
Now we know the reason for the announcement:

Apple wanted to rub it in Google and Amazon's face about getting the rights.
 
For those who think "nobody cares." keep in mind that two or three of the Beatles albums are in the top 10 on iTunes already. And the remastered CD's that were released last year were among the top sellers for the year.

What passes for "music" in today's market, like the recycled rap junk and the high octave wailing that gets played on the radio is pretty sick. One only wonders what will happen when kiddie pop and junk music lose their appeal completely. Will artists go back to things like harmony and melody?

We can only hope!

I would love the beatles to get a number 1 single or album!
 
Right now Amazon is selling the brand new remastered Beatles CD's for $7.99 apiece. Free shipping for orders over $25 and no sales tax. So, after all the years of hype and negotiations, Apple just got blown out of the water. It will take a few seconds to import each CD into your library, but for $5 bucks per album, that's a no-brainer. The red and blue compilation albums are $12.99 at Amazon vs. $19.99 on iTunes.

Yer the joke is really on Apple, just have a look at the album charts. The $149 box set is number 11 and the beatles have 9 albums in the top 20.;)
 
For those who think "nobody cares." keep in mind that two or three of the Beatles albums are in the top 10 on iTunes already. And the remastered CD's that were released last year were among the top sellers for the year.

What passes for "music" in today's market, like the recycled rap junk and the high octave wailing that gets played on the radio is pretty sick. One only wonders what will happen when kiddie pop and junk music lose their appeal completely. Will artists go back to things like harmony and melody?

We can only hope!

old people said the same thing about the beatles and every new band and form of music in the last 50 years

when the kids become old people they hate their kids' music and the previous crap music becomes art
 
Yeah right, that's why the Beatles songs are ranked so high in iTunes... because nobody cares.

Trusting the billboard ratings from the same company who sells the songs to begin with. Hurray honesty!
 
Sucker born every minute

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One only wonders what will happen when kiddie pop and junk music lose their appeal completely.
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Sorry. Won't ever happen. There may not be anything new in the music business any more, but there will always be a new audience.

The Beatles' hits are 40+ years old, but they still sound fresh. Why? Because current recording artists are still copying them.
 
Trusting the billboard ratings from the same company who sells the songs to begin with. Hurray honesty!

Surely they would be top if the figures were being fiddled and the uk charts aren't quite as impressive as the us. We're not talking about Amazon here ;)
 
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