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Google and Amazon Bid for The Beatles' Catalog as EMI and Apple Corps Squabbled

mmccaskill said:
Could this exclusivity result in an anti-trust law suit?
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Of course not. Apple and Amazon are competing. Apple just managed to get an exclusive deal to gain a competitive advantage (and yes, it is legal to beat your competitors. It's not legal to prevent them from competing). Amazon is free to offer an exclusive deal say to the Rolling Stones or to whatever band they choose to offer such a deal. "Music by the Beatles available from a download store" is not a market. Not even "Music by the Beatles" is a market, and if it was, then Apple and Amazon would still be competing in the market.
 
How do you people rate a positive or negative on a story? I can't find that button anywhere.
EDIT: Found it, it's right there, I don't know what was going on.

Warbrain said:
No. Walmart and Target sign exclusives on music all the time. Remember when you could only buy Garth Brooks from one store? Essentially same thing.
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I forgot about that. Didn't Walmart own all rights to Garth Brooks music?

I don't think there's a problem with limited time exclusives.

callme said:
In your opinion, which no one cares about!

It was a big deal, just look at the sales already.
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None of the top 10 singles or albums on iTunes are Beatles. Sadly, Ke$ha still beat them.
 
Bruce Lee said:
I think the amount of negatives to positives should paint you a clear picture.
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Not around here. The negatives are routinely misused on this site (though in which direction varies depending on who you ask and on how they think negatives should be picked).

No, the negative votes on anything Beatle-related is a result of their hissy fit when Steve Jobs didn't announce what they wanted yesterday (which also varied depending on the person). So from now on it's negative, negative, negative any time the Beatles get mentioned.

Meanwhile back in reality world, people are buying Beatles songs and albums like crazy. Shows you that what is said here is not necessarily a reflection of reality. Merely geeks throwing hissy fits.
 
JeffDM said:
I forgot about that. Didn't Walmart own all rights to Garth Brooks music?

I don't think there's a problem with limited time exclusives.
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I thought Kmart had Garth Brooks. It was the only one that came to my head. AC/DC just did Walmart last year or so if I recall. And it's been rumored the iTunes deal is a limited time exclusive that extends into next year.
 
JTVPRO said:
Maybe because the article is about the behind the scenes deal for a popular band. I doubt that most Beatles fans care about "the dealings", as long as the music is available.

This type of story is belongs in a Beatles fan forum or on the super market tabloid. That why some takes the time to say "Who Cares".

My opinion.
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As it directly concerns Apple I was interested to read about it.
I'm sure there are other stories on here that would bore the pants of me but you will probably be wetting yours about them. The difference is that I don't come here saying "Who cares". It's called being polite and tolerant of other people.

Everything is not about you and what you want to read, there are other people in existence.
 
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Bruce Lee said:
callme said:
In your opinion, which no one cares about!

It was a big deal, just look at the sales already.
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I think the amount of negatives to positives should paint you a clear picture.
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Big LOL. Your comparing actual sales with the few hundred rumblings of Internet forum nerds? Sorry to tell you this, but the only real picture here that matters are the sales that this has been generating, and top charts means yesterday mattered.

Keep going on analyzing the negative/positive meters on forums then :D
 
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NebulaClash said:
Bruce Lee said:
I think the amount of negatives to positives should paint you a clear picture.
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Not around here. The negatives are routinely misused on this site (though in which direction varies depending on who you ask and on how they think negatives should be picked).

No, the negative votes on anything Beatle-related is a result of their hissy fit when Steve Jobs didn't announce what they wanted yesterday (which also varied depending on the person). So from now on it's negative, negative, negative any time the Beatles get mentioned.

Meanwhile back in reality world, people are buying Beatles songs and albums like crazy. Shows you that what is said here is not necessarily a reflection of reality. Merely geeks throwing hissy fits.
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It seems to happen everytime apple says anything official. The kids are never satisfied This was such a long battle im happy to see it on iTunes. What did you expect form an announcement regarding itunes?
 
There really needs to be 3 choices to rate the story. Positive, negative or indifferent. I like the Beatles, understand their place in music history and their rather large influence on many bands that came after them, but the overall story for me was ho hum. It wasn't a negative, but it also wasn't really a positive, more like just another day.

I do find it funny when people talking about hating the Beatles but liking X and not realizing X was probably influenced in part by the Beatles.
 
Some serious hating going on about all this, seems like from all over the web this was a huge failure for Apple.
 
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This is suck
 
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BlackMangoTree said:
Some serious hating going on about all this, seems like from all over the web this was a huge failure for Apple.
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No, successful sales does not mean big failure.
 
I can see there is little interest in the Beatles music on iTunes:

iTunes UK Album Chart - Beatles Albums in positions 7, 8, 12, 18, 26, 27, 29, 33 (The £125 box set), 38, 43, 48, 53, 58, 77, 78 and 80. That is all their albums.

They also hold 55 positions in the top 200 singles chart.

No one must be interested.
 
Warbrain said:
I thought Kmart had Garth Brooks. It was the only one that came to my head. AC/DC just did Walmart last year or so if I recall. And it's been rumored the iTunes deal is a limited time exclusive that extends into next year.
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Apparently it's Walmart:
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001018037

NebulaClash said:
Not around here. The negatives are routinely misused on this site (though in which direction varies depending on who you ask and on how they think negatives should be picked).
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I agree, internet polls are a gameable system and there's no way to discern the reason for picking which option.

Meanwhile back in reality world, people are buying Beatles songs and albums like crazy. Shows you that what is said here is not necessarily a reflection of reality. Merely geeks throwing hissy fits.
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They're not _that_ high on the iTunes US charts though. The top song is at #17, the next song is down the list a bit more, #25, then #32. A good showing, but not the chart-topping gangbusters I thought it would be.
 
Icaras said:
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No, successful sales does not mean big failure.
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Successful sales or not Apple are going to be remembered for this day as way over hyped way under delivered. It's a big red X for Apple.
 
BlackMangoTree said:
Some serious hating going on about all this, seems like from all over the web this was a huge failure for Apple.
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Sort of typical, really. The anti-Apple folks will use any excuse to pretend Apple failed at something. The Apple fans will use any excuse to vent that they are not getting iEternalLife from the company. The Web then publishes these thoughts and amplifies them. Those who just read the propaganda then believe it.

Meanwhile Apple goes from success to success in the real world while the haters stamp and fuss and rant to no real effect.
 
callme said:
As it directly concerns Apple I was interested to read about it.
I'm sure there are other stories on here that would bore the pants of me but you will probably be wetting yours about them. The difference is that I don't come here saying "Who cares". It's called being polite and tolerant of other people.

Everything is not about you and what you want to read, there are other people in existence.
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That's exactly right. I don't care about the news on google docs, but I didn't feel the need to go in and tell everyone "who cares."

We understand people have an opinion, but there's no need to go around telling everyone what it is. Some opinions are best kept to one's self. Especially when it's as lacking in substance as, "who cares." :rolleyes:

And judging by the sales, a lot of people care. $150 box set at number 11? :eek: So much for the everyone who wants the Beatles already has them argument.
 
BlackMangoTree said:
Some serious hating going on about all this, seems like from all over the web this was a huge failure for Apple.
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MacRumors said:
The Beatles are currently making a strong showing in Apple's lists of top iTunes Store sellers, with over 60 of the group's songs currently ranked on the Top 200 Songs list and all 17 of the album/box set releases ranking among the top 50 albums.
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Obviously a huge failure. :rolleyes:
 
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BlackMangoTree said:
Icaras said:
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No, successful sales does not mean big failure.
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Successful sales or not Apple are going to be remembered for this day as way over hyped way under delivered. It's a big red X for Apple.
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You said it. This day definitely will be remembered, just like they said it would.
 
Bruce Lee said:
Possibly the biggest anti-climax in the history of mankind.
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Uh huh. "The Beatles are currently making a strong showing in Apple's lists of top iTunes Store sellers, with over 60 of the group's songs currently ranked on the Top 200 Songs list and all 17 of the album/box set releases ranking among the top 50 albums."

Yeah, you are so NOT a clueless loser.
 
JeffDM said:
They're not _that_ high on the iTunes US charts though. The top song is at #17, the next song is down the list a bit more, #25, then #32. A good showing, but not the chart-topping gangbusters I thought it would be.
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I'd say that's because people who listen to the Beatles are a bit more sophisticated than Ke$ha fans and can actually appreciate an album in its entirety. Not to mention the number of good songs on a Beatles album is much higher than the number of "good" songs on a Ke$ha album. Most albums today are mostly filler.
 
I call BS.

They held out on digital distribution so they could sell the re-issued box set on CD and Vinyl. Now that they have milked everything they can out of those markets they are finally selling on iTunes.
 
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