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That arrangement always seemed insanely anticompetitive to me, I was always shocked that the details of these payments-for-default-access was publicly known and done out in the open by these companies.
It’s monopolistic and anticompetitive sure, but pretty anodyne too no? I mean why aren’t they going after companies whose practices actually result in higher prices like T-Mobile’s acquisition of Sprint? Comcast anyone? There’s a HUGE difference to me in setting a default choice vs taking choice away.
 
This is very good news. There needs to be more competition, and these tech giants need taking down a peg or two (or three)
 
If the government prevailed against Google (anti trust), might it also prevail against Apple?

It could, if only Apple had a monopoly but they don't

iPhone - not close to a monopoly
Mac - not close to a monopoly
iPad - not close to a monopoly
Apple Watch, Apple TV, headphones, iCloud - not close to a monopoly

The only thing Apple has "monopolistic" control over is *checks notes* their own proprietary operating systems
 
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It was less than 5% of their revenue last quarter, it’s a chuck, but I think Apple will be ok.

That’s pure revenue in jeopardy which Google was using to keep Apple out of the general search business. Apple may now choose to enter it which will cost them billions annually.
 
Welp, there goes the deal with Coke and the NFL to have nothing but Coke vending machines in their stadiums. We use to call this business but now… 🤷🏼‍♂️
Does Coke have a monopoly in the soft drink market?
 
Yeah, Apple loses an easy $20B, and now I’m sure they’ll have to do a search engine ballot on first setup. If Apple was smart, they knew that gravy train was headed to dry dock someday and planned accordingly.

No, the court can't force Apple to do something because they're not party to the case.
Apple would be free to put Google Search as their default search engine if they wanted to.

Now, the court can ban Google from entering an agreement or paying Apple money.
 
That’s pure revenue in jeopardy which Google was using to keep Apple out of the general search business. Apple may now choose to enter it which will cost them billions annually.
Apple can’t enter the search game while simultaneously pretend it cares about privacy can it? I’m guessing that’s why they haven’t entered the market… they won’t be able to use the line about “you are the product” when a service is free which they’ve used for years to indirectly shame Google… if they enter search how will they still claim they care about your privacy?! Maybe there’s a play with Apple Intelligence powered search that they can charge for? But how big will that get vs free alternatives that trade on your privacy??
 
Most users would want to use Google search anyway, and it would be suicidal for Apple to meaningfully block that.

20 billions reasons a year suggests that most users would not, in fact, want to use Google search anyway if it were not the default but that they would likely be more or less fine with whatever search engine they used
 
I never understood why Google has been paying them so much in the first place. Maybe to detract Apple from developing a search engine of their own.
I saw it more as a "Google thinks they might be able to get away with not paying Apple anything, but they would rather not F around and find out" scenario. Enforcing the status quo was the safer bet all around.
 
Likewise, if people are satisfied with the search results, who is being harmed?
How would these people know any better when the choice has been made for them?

Would you say people were satisfied earning less than 1.0% on their savings accounts when many high-yield accounts were paying out over 5%?

82% of Americans Aren't Using High-Yield Savings Accounts


Or was it because they didn't know any better?


For the first time in years, banks are offering savings accounts that pay serious interest. But consumers aren’t doing much about it, a new survey finds.

Roughly one-fifth of Americans with savings accounts don’t know how much interest they’re getting, according to a quarterly Paths to Prosperity study by Santander US, part of the global bank Santander. Of those who do know their interest rate, most are earning less than 3%.

“There’s real opportunity for people here to better their financial health by being aware, and by being willing to take some action,” said Tim Wennes, CEO of Santander US.
 
But what if the remedy from the court is that Google can't pay anyone to be their default search engine?
The Sherman Act doesn't care about intention AFAIK.
Google could still just make donations to Mozilla to keep Firefox afloat as a figleaf competitor.
 
Apple’s services revenue about to see a big drop next year!
 
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20 billions reasons a year suggests that most users would not, in fact, want to use Google search anyway if it were not the default but that they would likely be more or less fine with whatever search engine they used
It “suggests”, but my very point is that I don’t find it very plausible.
 
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I saw it more as a "Google thinks they might be able to get away with not paying Apple anything, but they would rather not F around and find out" scenario. Enforcing the status quo was the safer bet all around.
Word no one wants to rock the gravy boat…
 
How would these people know any better when the choice has been made for them?

Would you say people were satisfied earning less than 1.0% on their savings accounts when many high-yield accounts were paying out over 5%?

82% of Americans Aren't Using High-Yield Savings Accounts


Or was it because they didn't know any better?


For the first time in years, banks are offering savings accounts that pay serious interest. But consumers aren’t doing much about it, a new survey finds.

Roughly one-fifth of Americans with savings accounts don’t know how much interest they’re getting, according to a quarterly Paths to Prosperity study by Santander US, part of the global bank Santander. Of those who do know their interest rate, most are earning less than 3%.

“There’s real opportunity for people here to better their financial health by being aware, and by being willing to take some action,” said Tim Wennes, CEO of Santander US.
False equivalency. What are Apple device users being denied here? They can change to a number of other search engines anytime they want - if they bothered. But not one works as well as Google.
 
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Welp, there goes the deal with Coke and the NFL to have nothing but Coke vending machines in their stadiums. We use to call this business but now… 🤷🏼‍♂️
🤣 Comparing one sports league and their partnering with Coke to...

Android smartphone default search engine? Google
iPhone default search engine? Google

Combined, that gives Google 99.71% marketshare for smartphone search in the U.S. if people keep the default search settings. Since 95% of users tend to keep the default settings, that explains why Google search is 95.05% of mobile search in the U.S.
 
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