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They can start up giving at least more than 5GB if iCloud storage for users to start off with...
So you only care when you can spread FUD without anyone questioning it, but the second we question your fud and show that you're wrong,
you don't care anymore?
Why should anyone take you seriously? ever?
Wrong. Look at all those Chinese phone suppliers - they all run Android (that comes with all the drivers and other stuff) minus the Google apps. So no google play, or gmail or whatever. They can install them if they have an agreement with Google, or install the amazon web store or any other 3rd party one.
We have Android running here in the office on various platforms, all built from the open sources.
So if you don't need or want the google apps then you're all set to go with a fully functioning Android system.
How's that for a chocolate fireguard!
We have Android running here in the office on various platforms, all built from the open sources.
So if you don't need or want the google apps then you're all set to go with a fully functioning Android system.
How's that for a chocolate fireguard!
I see the pedants are in town...
Knock it off, seriously - life's too short guys.
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I like how you edited in that bolded part a few minutes after making the initial post. Shows us how much you really don't care.
Oh, right,, ask buddy boy who actually buys a phone anywhere but in China what Android means to them, and then start cooking some new batch cookies...
For everyone in the west buying a phone, Android is linked at the hip with Google; OEM are slaves to Google's pile pile of IP/dung. They basically screwed themselves over. They know they can't sell one phone without Google's stuff on it unless they fork their own and have no apps at all, and have to rewrite all the other software.
Google is basically a pariah in China and there was little China specific apps, so they didn't care to go their own way.
Android without Google is basically just another Unix variant; nothing really to get excited about.
and what has all that ranting got to do with Android not being open source? You don't like Android. fine. The point is that for anyone who wants to use Android can. You can build h/w, build the OS and away you go.
yes it doesn't come with the Google stuff , but then there are a lot of markets that don't want the google bits
yes it doesn't come with the Google stuff , but then there are a lot of markets that don't want the google bits
I have to say that the new features of Google Now are actually quite good. I would really like to see Apple implement something similar to Google Now on iOS.
Look I didn't say other companies were blameless, but there is a difference between reading my email for spam and reading it with the intent of selling me something. The problem with Google is that they make it very difficult to opt out, or even know if you have done so successfully. I shouldn't have to make any changes to my browser to not be tracked and monitored. Google has identified many of these behaviors and found ways to get around them. Track behaviors at the level of an individual webpage, by becoming an ISP, a telocom, a storage company. I shouldn't have to know that my ISP is really an advertising company. Theses things should be so far disconnected they never meet.
Just like how people got upset with how Microsoft dominated the desktop, it's the way Google gets their I normative that I dislike.
I don't have a problem with paying to view a website. I don't have a problem with ads. But don't like the idea that what I buy in a retail store with my phone, and the books I read to influence the ads I get on a website I've never been to before.
Why is it that you aren't as upset about their business practices? You shouldn't have to justify privacy.
Can someone explain how Google Photos works?
Main question is does it backup all the photos on your device, or does it sync all the photos on the device?
In other words, if you backup all the photos on your phone, and then delete them from the phone, are they still on google photos?
Main question is does it backup all the photos on your device, or does it sync all the photos on the device?
In other words, if you backup all the photos on your phone, and then delete them from the phone, are they still on google photos?
Yes, it is a backup service. When you install the app, it backs up all the photos from your Camera Roll. If you delete a photo from the Camera Roll, it will not delete it from Google Photos. You have to open the Google Photos app to commence back-up.
There's also a Mac Google Photos application, in which you can specify what photos folders you want backed up (including iPhoto Library). Google Photos can also be integrated with Google Drive, so if you have Google Drive installed on your Mac, you can see all the photos in a folder that have been backed up from your iPhone (for example).
Thanks!
Didn't want to play around with it until I knew for sure.
I think there were other services I looked at that were more of a sync service (I think), which was useless since I wanted to offload photos from my device.
Once you upload it on Google.. it will be never deleted... you just dont see it.
You know, these last few threads about Google were very eye-opening. I already knew about ISPs knowing quite bit about you (arguably more because you have to use your name and other info to have the internet turned on) and while I disliked Google for what I felt was low quality software and hardware, I did have a twinge of mistrust of Google since they do make a good chunk of money via targeted ads compared to MS and Apple that do software and hardware for money.
Now I see that when you think about it, MS clearly is checking on us if they disallow nude pictures on OneDrive. Amazon has data on us if they can give us other items to look at. I can see what a lot of people here are saying, and it does seem silly to single Google out. That said, I still find most of Google puts out to not be for me at all, but that goes to show, if you don't like something, don't use it.
Now I see that when you think about it, MS clearly is checking on us if they disallow nude pictures on OneDrive. Amazon has data on us if they can give us other items to look at. I can see what a lot of people here are saying, and it does seem silly to single Google out. That said, I still find most of Google puts out to not be for me at all, but that goes to show, if you don't like something, don't use it.
Well, then why use Android at all. What the hell is the point of that? I'd rather use whatever other Unix that's as far from them as possible and not really on them for anything. Fork it away, far far away and never ever deal with Google should be the plan if you have an inkling to use it.
For 99% in the west Google and Android are linked; and Google wants it that way and makes it a living hell of OEM's that try to get away. It's a really bad deal for anyone in the Internet of things to get involved with Android because there is already a big history of OEM getting nothing in return but red ink from this involvement.
They may not see the backend deal they're getting into right away that will involve Google getting a hold of all their sensor data, but there is no point for Google to code these things if that's not part of their plan.
So everyone gets heated up because Google is Evil and mines data, thats their business and they dont hide it.
Yet some mistruths are pumped out, for example, you can turn off personal based adds in Android as easy as flicking a switch, yes you will still get adds they just wont be linked.
You can use adblock or various other services to stop seeing adds on ya desktop so theres plenty of options if you are the tin foil hat wearing kind of persons
Has anyone turned up at my door and stated " Hi MR B, age xx, sexual preference ab, likes leather whips and lush bathbombs." nope never, so whats the issue.
I suspect most people on this forum sends emails, yet i bet less than .5% even use a encrypted service. Emails are not encrypted take your favourite email client then right click and select "view source" or similar, its good old plain text, anyone with the right tools can get at and peek at it, So an algorithim looks at keywords to build a profile ? again so what.
What do i gain, Ads that actually i do take a peek at because they interest me, Google now service which can tell me so much and save me time, upto date info that is presented to me rather than me having to go find it in exchange for what, some data and a vague profile about who i am as a human.
If your that paranoid i would suggest one thing, stay off the net, you are tracked from the moment you step online.
And no matter how much you may detest Google, i bet you dont realise that probably a large percentage of the sites you visit are being analysed by google
in the background by "google analytics" which is setup by the website owners, that tracks, in links out links time spent on pages, how you navigate websites and in effect build up a deep level analysis of how people uses their services
But it seems odd that people also choose to criticise google but hold beloved to Apple.
One quick look on their updated privacy policy page states the following:
"We also use personal information to help us create, develop, operate, deliver, and improve our products, services, content and advertising, and for loss prevention and anti-fraud purposes."
"We may collect information regarding customer activities on our website, iCloud services, and iTunes Store and from our other products and services. This information is aggregated and used to help us provide more useful information to our customers and to understand which parts of our website, products, and services are of most interest. Aggregated data is considered non‑personal information for the purposes of this Privacy Policy"
"We may collect and store details of how you use our services, including search queries. This information may be used to improve the relevancy of results provided by our services. Except in limited instances to ensure quality of our services over the Internet, such information will not be associated with your IP address"
Not very different just wrapped up in nicely written terminology
But in all honesty all these services pose a little risk, and for what your spending why not Just get a Synology Nas drive, and set up your own personal cloud, that way you pay once, have large amounts of storage and am in control of the data you provide. Job Done
Yet some mistruths are pumped out, for example, you can turn off personal based adds in Android as easy as flicking a switch, yes you will still get adds they just wont be linked.
You can use adblock or various other services to stop seeing adds on ya desktop so theres plenty of options if you are the tin foil hat wearing kind of persons
Has anyone turned up at my door and stated " Hi MR B, age xx, sexual preference ab, likes leather whips and lush bathbombs." nope never, so whats the issue.
I suspect most people on this forum sends emails, yet i bet less than .5% even use a encrypted service. Emails are not encrypted take your favourite email client then right click and select "view source" or similar, its good old plain text, anyone with the right tools can get at and peek at it, So an algorithim looks at keywords to build a profile ? again so what.
What do i gain, Ads that actually i do take a peek at because they interest me, Google now service which can tell me so much and save me time, upto date info that is presented to me rather than me having to go find it in exchange for what, some data and a vague profile about who i am as a human.
If your that paranoid i would suggest one thing, stay off the net, you are tracked from the moment you step online.
And no matter how much you may detest Google, i bet you dont realise that probably a large percentage of the sites you visit are being analysed by google
in the background by "google analytics" which is setup by the website owners, that tracks, in links out links time spent on pages, how you navigate websites and in effect build up a deep level analysis of how people uses their services
But it seems odd that people also choose to criticise google but hold beloved to Apple.
One quick look on their updated privacy policy page states the following:
"We also use personal information to help us create, develop, operate, deliver, and improve our products, services, content and advertising, and for loss prevention and anti-fraud purposes."
"We may collect information regarding customer activities on our website, iCloud services, and iTunes Store and from our other products and services. This information is aggregated and used to help us provide more useful information to our customers and to understand which parts of our website, products, and services are of most interest. Aggregated data is considered non‑personal information for the purposes of this Privacy Policy"
"We may collect and store details of how you use our services, including search queries. This information may be used to improve the relevancy of results provided by our services. Except in limited instances to ensure quality of our services over the Internet, such information will not be associated with your IP address"
Not very different just wrapped up in nicely written terminology
But in all honesty all these services pose a little risk, and for what your spending why not Just get a Synology Nas drive, and set up your own personal cloud, that way you pay once, have large amounts of storage and am in control of the data you provide. Job Done
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I read a very interesting article on this yesterday. It said that, where we are headed with data mining is individualized marketing AND PRICING - a market of one. This means, for example, based on the fact that you just uploaded pictures of your new car, and based on customer reviews of its stereo, when you go to Crutchfield.com your prices could be high than mine since they perceive your desire to be greater.
Let me see if I have this correct. Microsoft unveiled software that determines a persons age from a photo. Do you think there is a big room with "circus midway age guessers" employed to guess the age of the person in the photo? The same with nude photos? Geez. Buy a clue.
Not at all what I'm saying, as big as they are they don't have the resources or the time for that but they do have software that is used to scan OneDrive for child porn and just nudity in general. Which I would still consider looking at our cloud service. Maybe they use the same PhotoDNA software for that stupid "guess your age" software.
Pfft... Apple makes plenty of money off you and your habits, don't be blind.