Not that rare, Newegg has 5 pages of ExpressCard adapters for sale: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=expresscard&Page=2
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Not that rare, Newegg has 5 pages of ExpressCard adapters for sale: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=expresscard&Page=2
I meant as in accessories and peripherals that "doesn't work with anything else". (my bad)
fat chance...if anything it'll be a GNU/linux/chrome monstrosity like it or not almost everyone relies on GNU at some point so linux + GNU + chrome so this is all over blown another linux yaaay
Except MS didn't have to. The customers wanted XP, not Linux. Oh and if you really believe that MS can still 'scare' the OEMs after two industrial strength anti-competition rulings from the US DoJ and the EU, one of them around favourable price fixing, then you have quite the imagination.
From minuscule (2.2%) to tiny (4.5%).
I mean "To fix firmly or securely". In this case the position that Windows holds in the marketplace as the preferred choice.
Appropriation, as I mention, is in the context of social constructionism. The attached link gives a reasonably good definition:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...rYGfCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4
Essentially it's the use of and identification with tools, in this case computers and operating systems.
No need. An 'opinion' is a statement that may be backed up with evidence but cannot be proved by that evidence. Your quoted statement about MS using scare tactics to influence the netbook market is opinion. On the other hand the statement is not a sound argument as this premise is wrong.
Going after netbook makes sense but how about those ONE LAPTOP PER CHILD notebooks out there?
http://laptop.org/
http://laptop.org/
In this case, less is more. No Gnome or KDE. Pick a single audio system that actually works, and have the Chrome browser use it. Get the update system to silently update the kernel and Chrome when necessary/possible. (What else can you strip out so that it "boots in seconds"?)
You don't have to worry about updating apps, or even installing apps, because you're only visiting websites, and they update whenever they do -- just like they do now. Features on Google's apps appear from time to time.
Many people don't care about their privacy; which may be a bad thing, but there it is. It's not whether all the power users would want to run a stripped-down OS on their computer, but rather whether people would want to buy a $200 netbook if all they do is "surf the web", which is constantly becoming a richer experience.
FU google
I signed up for a gmail account last year. Used it all the time. It was great. One day, they cancel my account. I'm not spammer. There was no reason for it. I tried submitting their forms/whatever to get my account reinstated. I even tried calling them, but there is no way to talk to a human being there.
Never got a response. Never got my account reinstated. Never got all my email back.
google can go f#%$ itself.
I signed up for a gmail account last year. Used it all the time. It was great. One day, they cancel my account. I'm not spammer. There was no reason for it. I tried submitting their forms/whatever to get my account reinstated. I even tried calling them, but there is no way to talk to a human being there.
Never got a response. Never got my account reinstated. Never got all my email back.
google can go f#%$ itself.
We'll see. So in the event of 7 replacing XP on netbooks according to your statement of familiarity a more significant amount of users will be switching?
Source?
You're comparing apples to oranges on that definition...
Sociological Appropriation, defined by James J. Sosnoski, is "the assimilation of concepts into a governing framework...[the] arrogation, confiscation, [or] seizure of concepts."
Again, I fail to see how that applies here.
What about the other arguments? Attacking only one argument is fine, point taken, but try the other. Manufacturers *did* modify the distros to the point that people didn't use them, then say people didn't want Linux.
PS. Using the same premise of familiarity, noone would switch from XP to Vista, XP to 7, or even 3.x to 95/97/98
fat chance...if anything it'll be a GNU/linux/chrome monstrosity like it or not almost everyone relies on GNU at some point so linux + GNU + chrome so this is all over blown another linux yaaay
It is more significant than the technology though. The vision that Chrome OS is pursuing - a full-blown, standards-compliant, browser-based world - means a hell of a lot. That's a huge, huge power transfer away from the desktop monopolists (read: Microsoft), and onto the rest of the world.
Some people are touting Google having the Midas Touch.
Increasingly, I see them as a very successful search innovator & provider which is struggling to define their future beyond search. X craft to the moon, solar energy on the roof, Android, whatever. In some ways it is the problem Yahoo has - where to next...
I don't see this as either a threat to Apple nor a stimulus for Apple to go some new way.
Increasingly, I see them as a very successful search innovator & provider which is struggling to define their future beyond search. X craft to the moon, solar energy on the roof, Android, whatever. In some ways it is the problem Yahoo has - where to next...
I don't see this as either a threat to Apple nor a stimulus for Apple to go some new way.
Snow Leopard: 29$ for Leopard Users. Did I read somewhere that Windows 7 Ultimate could cost a purchases $349.00?
No. At least not in US dollars. ( http://www.amazon.ca/GLC-00181-Micr...d_t=1401&pf_rd_p=482313331&pf_rd_i=1000394501 )
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I doubt it since XP already has over 90% of the current netbook market. The game's already over.
Gartner's and IDC's sales stats by quarter for the years 2006-2008.
Nope, that is the definition I mean.
The point is that you're assuming the modifications were the reason for the failure rather than the OS - or more specifically the lack of user familiarity with the OS - itself. That's where appropriation comes in - if you get used to something you tend to dislike the alternatives.
There is nothing crippled about the versions of Windows, they are selling to different groups of customers. Apple doesn't have as broad a range of customers and therefore doesn't need to sell different versions of its operating system. Windows is far from the only OS to have different editions, look at Redhat, SuSe etc. Snow Leopard only costs $29 to existing Leopard users, in this way it is also "crippled", if I was a Tiger user I would have to pay the full wodge.
But I can see you are plainly clueless. You are arguing points with statistics gleaned from inaccurate websites and twisting the information presented to your own pig headed ends. You ignore any arguments I put forward and instead bang the same drum about "Microsoft having to justify the upgrade costs", despite the fact that they are offering discounted prices just as Apple are. There is a list of upgraded features in Windows 7 if you would bother to read it, but even if you did you would say "Big deal those aren't necessary". If I showed the same feature set and told you it was Apple you would sing its praises from the rooftops.
Apple have dropped support for a large portion of their user base but this will be justified by you as "progress" while you criticise Microsoft for changing driver models in Vista. Vista isn't bad either to begin with, as I said it has bad PR that is all. If you bothered to give other operating systems even a glimmer of a chance you would see that pointing and clicking are pretty simple no matter what OS you use.
You mention Grand Central and OpenCL, despite these being supported on only Apple's latest hardware. Microsoft has its own multi core engine which will be available on XP, Vista and Windows 7, so lets take Grand Central out of the equation. OpenCL while nice, is not going to be of any great use on the typical 9400M that Apple products tend to use, and if you want to purchase a graphics card that will be useful you have to pay Apple over the odds for the same hardware that was available on Windows machines 6 months before.
If I sound like I am a Windows fanboy its only because there is no other choice. No-one else is providing an operating system to run on as many machines as Windows does and with the same user friendliness. Don't you dare say "Windows isn't user friendly" because thats simply juvenile schoolgirl prejudice. If you allowed your brain even half a moment's break from your Apple-centric bollocks you would see that Windows UI is ahead of the competition, and by competition I mean Linux not OSX. Linux quite often requires command line to configure, and by default looks plain compared to Vista's transparent windows.
Truth is its Apple that makes me a Windows fanboy. They have the only viable alternative to Windows and yet they hide away in their 4-5% market share and make snide little adverts that mock Windows for having the balls to support more than a limited set of hardware. Apple hasn't got the balls to come out and say "We will take Microsoft at their own game." because if they did that they would lose the treasured stability and security that they charge over the odds for. If Apple played Microsoft at their own game they would probably lose. Its like an exclusive country club sneering at all the oiks outside. Such a bunch of snobs.
Full versions, yes. Somehow people kept saying that we should compare OS X with the Home Premium, "Upgrade" edition.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fa...names_its_prices_for.html?wprss=fasterforward
PS.Differences lie in the Upgrade version requires a prior version of Windows.
I'm not saying it wont shift power I'm just saying don't fool yourself it will be a) no more than a linux distro or b) a crappy java implementation running on a linux kernel like android. Either way any adoption will be a result of the google name...not it's own merits IMHO
Where did you get the "Snow Leopard only costs $29 to existing Leopard users, if I was a Tiger user I would have to pay the full wodge."? Might I ask the source of that?
As with all Mac OS X discs, they contain the FULL version of the thing. You can install, wipe, and install again, unlike "Upgrade" discs where you are supposed to have XP or Vista installed then "upgrade".(I've pointed that out in my previous post and the one before that.)
Then list it. No major kernel changes, mostly superficial. Microsoft haven't entirely rewritten the core of the system. Yes, they redid the explorer.exe, but so did Apple with the Finder. Anything else worth mentioning that would really be that major that I would've missed by going through the Wikipedia article of 7's features?
I'd say the same about you and Microsoft but I thought I'd be polite. Call me whatever you want, but you're just as clueless as you sound.
Difference: PHASING OUT.
*facepalm*
Please. Read. PowerPC's phasing out started in Tiger. Yes, you don't get the "classic" environment anymore. That's "phased out" too.
PS. The devs were given time to expect this to happen and rewrite everything. Vista? Nope. You wake up one morning and your drivers don't work with the current version of Windows anymore...
Multi-core engine? Humph, fine. Tick. OpenCL? Yes. It actually made just because of the integrated chipsets, and need a better, more efficient way of processing graphics. Major rewrite of kernel in 7? Nope. -.- And no, not always the "hardware that was available on Windows machines 6 months before".
Thus 7 shouldn't charge nearly 2 times more than Mac OS X. Esp. for an "upgrade version"
PS. Vista's Multi-core engine goes unnoticed by the community because of the amount of bloat that's in the operating system itself that makes the OS slower than XP.
"Windows isn't user friendly". I've said it. Compared to OS X. Yes, I know how to do stuff, and I know how to efficiently use the UNIX command prompt, but I'd say that Windows has a really inconsistent user interface, and could be vastly improved. I'll continue on my MacBook for the meanwhile.
Oh, damn. You too? Please. Apple's niche is, by definition, small, but not tiny. They have fallen in the early 90s and would need the "snide" adverts, as you put it, to pick back up. Now Apple isn't taking Microsoft full on because their niche is exactly that; a niche. For people who would be willing to pay for quality computers. Now maybe chrome will fill the gap if anyone else is tired of Microsoft.
PS. Your paragraph, with minor changes, sums up my situation too:
Er... huh?
I use both Windows and OS X daily. I think Windows is far less user-friendly than OS X. It's not 'juvenile schoolgirl prejudice'. It's based on my 10+ years of experience.
Still, it's just my opinion. Obviously, you have an opinion, too.
Bunch of snobs? LOL.
yeah right, a user unfriendly OS can hold 95% of marketshare. almost 1 billion users.
I guess they are all so much smarter than mac users then, they can master a unfriendly OS and do great stuff like all those fancy softwares, fancy movies, everything... etc.
absurd rhetoric need to stop, those type of personal judgment obviously hold no water when migrated to the masses.
yeah, pay $400 tax for a computer, and glad OS costs $29. How ironic..
Why not? Do you think that cellphones (regular phones) are user friendly? What is their market share?
I also don't understand what the problem is with Apple limiting its software to a certain hardware set. BMW doesn't sell it's engines to GM... why does Apple have to sell its software to other (often sub-par) hardware vendors?
Not if they have no choice— as indicated by the post I replied to
Well I can use it, but using Windows is far less efficient when it comes to me...
I agree. But when people start pointing fingers at us and yell "look at you stupid bastards you paid so much extra for a computer (look below)" or "Macs can't do s***" it's natural for us to defend why we bought Apple stuff——Or rather, why we didn't buy Windows...
I suppose hackint0sh didn't come across your mind?
PS. You must've missed quite a bit of my post. There are those who are willing to pay for quality, and there are those who don't. That's why Apple serves a niche instead of racing to the bottom.
@Windywoo
Would the W3Counter stats be more accurate?
http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
Humph. Around the same... ~88%.
This one has a more diverse sample because it itself provides services to websites that subscribes to them... Meaning that sites are not "picked"... Regardless 27% of visitors are American—but guess what? Americans *are* more active...
Would the W3Counter stats be more accurate?
http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
Humph. Around the same... ~88%.
This one has a more diverse sample because it itself provides services to websites that subscribes to them... Meaning that sites are not "picked"... Regardless 27% of visitors are American—but guess what? Americans *are* more active...