How funny would it be if Googles operating system became better than windows, the company that made the pc for google only to be a search engine! TeeHee
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Most common distros can run the same applications. Linux apps are often cross-compatible.
That must be a pain when switching languages. I do miss just plugging in my mouse in Windows and getting back/forward without evey installing any third-party software.Speaking of keyboard shortcuts and systemwide commands... OS X doesn't have a standard for input devices when it comes to back/forward (browsers, Finder etc), right? I mean, if I plug a mouse with back/forward buttons into a Windows PC those buttons will just work in IE, Explorer etc without installing a driver.
I've been trying to get back/forward on my Logitech mouse to work in Safari, but apparently the only way to do it is to map the mouse buttons to key commands. The problem is, I'm using US English as the main UI language, but I have a Scandinavian keyboard. The key commands for back/forward in Safari are Command+bracket (L/R), but on a Scandinavian keyboard there are no dedicated bracket keys, you get those characters by pressing Alt+8 and Alt+9. However, Safari doesn't register Command+Alt+8 and Command+Alt+9 at all. When I use Swedish as the UI language, Safari has different key commands for back/forward (Alt+Command+Ö and Alt+Command+Ä), and I can map those to the mouse but they stop working when I switch back to English.
Then you'll get the Linux people that ask us how we live without package management and repositories.Ok that may be true, but the average user cannot install them. It's been awhile, but when I used Ubuntu, you could not simply download a .exe equivalent & launch a install. It was a real pain to do something simple like install the drivers for my HP 1018 printer.
7 is a big improvement in video drivers. I've put them through hell without any issues.Please explain what you mean by "driver model", since I have XP drivers that load in Vista.
I think that you're talking about major improvements in the display driver, changes that Nvidia was remarkedly slow to embrace.
I think Nvidia learned its lesson though - on the Nvidia website WHQL drivers for Windows 7 are already in the top level menu!
7 is a big improvement in video drivers. I've put them through hell without any issues.
I'm pretty sure everyone saw this coming...but I'm reluctant to place my data in the hands of such a rapidly expanding company...
How in the hell did this thread turn into a Vista versus Mac OS argument?
Are you saying that access to those symbols is difficult on a Mac? Are you kidding? You'd rather type and have to remember the rather cryptic Alt-0201 to get "É" than simply typing Option-E and having the OS place the accent over any compatible letter, upper or lowercase that you type afterward?
Speaking of keyboard shortcuts and systemwide commands... OS X doesn't have a standard for input devices when it comes to back/forward (browsers, Finder etc), right? I mean, if I plug a mouse with back/forward buttons into a Windows PC those buttons will just work in IE, Explorer etc without installing a driver.
I've been trying to get back/forward on my Logitech mouse to work in Safari, but apparently the only way to do it is to map the mouse buttons to key commands. The problem is, I'm using US English as the main UI language, but I have a Scandinavian keyboard. The key commands for back/forward in Safari are Command+bracket (L/R), but on a Scandinavian keyboard there are no dedicated bracket keys, you get those characters by pressing Alt+8 and Alt+9. However, Safari doesn't register Command+Alt+8 and Command+Alt+9 at all. When I use Swedish as the UI language, Safari has different key commands for back/forward (Alt+Command+Ö and Alt+Command+Ä), and I can map those to the mouse but they stop working when I switch back to English.
Yes, Jobs said so in a WSJ interview in 2007.
""The big secret about Apple, of course, is that Apple views itself as a software company ........ Apple's fundamentally a software company, and there's not a lot of us left and Microsoft's one of them."
I think it works like this: If someone criticizes Apple's software, the response is that Apple is primarily a hardware company. If someone criticizes Apple's hardware, the response is that Apple is primarily a software company. If someone criticizes both, the response is...
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A week ago it was, but it's been raining cats, dogs and the occasional elephant over the last couple of days so I wouldn't recommend Sweden at the moment. Part of the whole climate change thing is that we're gradually inheriting the UK's weather with frequent surprise rain showers coming totally out of left field... 20 years ago we barely knew what umbrellas were.btw, Sweden must be lovely this time of year...ahhhh...
Oh. I was hoping to avoid having to mess around deep within the system... why doesn't it just support back/forward buttons? They've been around for, what, 10 years? I know they're eager to sell you the Mighty Mouse instead, but damn...1. You can go into MainMenu.nib to change the key combinations with Interface Builder.
2. It's not directly command+bracket—it's command plus that weird bracket thing that requires you press shift. The reason it probably didn't work is because you didn't press cmd+shift+{ or }.
The drivers may suck, but back/forward buttons are every bit as standardized as left/right buttons and scroll wheels. You don't need drivers for Windows to respond to those, they're not strange voodoo commands. The same goes for basic multimedia buttons on keyboards. Play/Pause, Stop, Next/Previous, launch the default web browser, launch explorer, launch the default email client... there are API hooks for all that stuff and the keyboard manufacturer needn't do more than comply with the standard. In OS X you have to trick the system into believing the mouse is sending key combinations, which is why you need the sucktastic drivers in the first place.Actually I doubt they really care if you use a Mighty Mouse (which has shipped with all Macs for quite a few years now). The problem is that the companies that make the mice are absolutely sucktastic at making drivers.
But it only supports the basic alphanumerical keys and left/right/scroll on the mouse, so why not support the extended stuff as well?
Most operating systems have the keyboard calls for that fluff already. You can technically remap those special functions since they are just additional key inputs.It's not all keyboards and mice. I have a Dell USB multimedia keyboard that shipped with my XPS Studio. Mac OS X recognizes all of its function keys and maps them to their corresponding feature. This is without any software or drivers on my part. It even shows the same overlay graphics for sound that you would get with an Apple keyboard.
everything is always circular.
dumb terminal to pc back to dumb terminal 2009.
How funny would it be if Googles operating system became better than windows, the company that made the pc for google only to be a search engine! TeeHee
A week ago it was, but it's been raining cats, dogs and the occasional elephant over the last couple of days so I wouldn't recommend Sweden at the moment. Part of the whole climate change thing is that we're gradually inheriting the UK's weather with frequent surprise rain showers coming totally out of left field... 20 years ago we barely knew what umbrellas were.
Still, it's not a bad place. It's funny, I've always heard Americans praise Aspen as this amazing place where all the celebrities flock, I wanted to see what it looked like so I googled for some pictures and soon I was having a laughing fit. This? What, a bunch of mountains, some snow, spruce and pine forests, a couple of lakes, birches with yellow leaves in the fall? Are you kidding me? 75% of Scandinavia looks like that. If that's what y'all want you can come here and look out the window. We go on vacation to escape that stuff.
Why would Dell or HP be excited about this? Because it's a cheap alternative? Linux is already a cheap alternative to Windows and getting either of them to sell PCs with it pre-installed is like pulling teeth.
Because google already has a huge name and huge exposure to people who would be attracted to such an OS. Linux not so much. In fact not at all. After a very long time to make something that is actually user friendly, linux is still a massive failure in terms of delivering a usable experience. I have used computers and OSes long before linux even existed, and it is still nowhere close to a point where normal people would ever want to use it. Heck I only use it when I have to, because it is a pain in the arse.
I am sure I will get some linux geeks who will tell me how I am wrong and how user friendly it is and how you have to use this flavor of this build with these add-ons and none of it matters. It is unfriendly to use down to its core and nothing short of a real overlay done by people who actually make a living developing user interface processes will ever change that. Because a bunch of linux nerds thinks it is now user-friendly means nothing.
I suspect that Chrome OS will be very user-friendly, which leads to fewer support calls for the PC makers. Add that to the fact that google will market it, and be able to reach people who want it, and it will have little to nothing comparable to linux in terms of why a pc maker might want to market it, besides a low-cost.
Great. Another minority OS that will completely fail to capture the market.
Google: you do search, photo management, maps and mail. You're good at these things. Everything else you do sucks and this will be no exception.
That's interesting because my reaction was almost exactly the opposite. I think Google's Chrome is a remarkably ugly and clunky web browser: very much state of the art 10 years ago.
I don't believe in Google.
They've made ONE thing that's good, and that's a search engine. It wasn't even an original/innovative idea, they just made the best algorithms, so gave the best results and cut out all the picture ads... so didn't annoy people as much as Lycos, Excite, Dogpile, Yahoo...etc.
Now they're just the search engine I use... if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I seriously doubt they're making billions out of adsense. yeah... a bit of money... but adsense isn't enough to make them the rich company that they are in my opinion. They simply don't need global headquarters in huuuuuuge luxurious buildings around the globe (one in Australia? I'm an Aussie and all I can think is... WHY? How does this help their search engine.)
They're basically a BIG server farm that has spiders crawling the web 24/7 who make a bit of cash out of adsense. They then get multi-billion dollar donations from shareholders who want them to become the next AMAZING new thing. But all they are is a server farm!
YES they have a great search engine... but right now with things like the Android I think they're just trying to make themselves look like a serious company. They're like a MASSIVE startup that has a steady flow of cash in my view...