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If you're going to get an Android phone, this is probably it. But I don't like the chin or the fingerprint reader on the back.
There are so many great Android phones under $300 nowadays, some even have more RAM and storage (and look better too) than the Pixel 3.
 
While the Google Pixel 3 are very good phones, the price borders on silly. US$899 for the Pixel 3 and US$999 for the Pixel 3 XL in 128 GB versions? :eek:

If you want a decent pure-Android experience phone, get Nokia's new 7.1 model, which sells for US$349 for the 4 GB RAM/64 GB local storage model. Four around $414, you can get a Nokia 7.1 with a 256 GB Micro SD flash drive, and Android 8.1 ("Oreo") and later takes full advantage of that memory expansion.
 
Not according to Google's product page. The three specs below are, from left-to-right, the Pixel 3, Pixel 2, and 1. Every gen is able to run Android Pie. Like Apple's iOS, some features only work with exclusive hardware. That said, I'll bet donuts that most features are available since the hardware differences aren't significant.

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I posted after watching MKBHD’s hands on with the Pixel 3. He says he asked google directly and they said all the headline software features are exclusive to the Pixel 3

“According to google because I asked : Everything (except for shush mode) that I just talked about is exclusive to pixel 3, not coming to pixel 2 or pixel 1. So even though it’s just software it’s technically a pixel 3 only feature”- MKBHD

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Same boring design. Same specs. Low ram for android. Instead of dual rear cameras for optical zoom, they put dual front for wide selfies. Wtf was google thinking?? Is their target audience 14-18 year old girls??? Ugly notch and chin. Ugh. I expected better from google. Well, maybe I didn’t. LOL
 
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So, why would anyone buy a Pixel slate instead of a Surface (that runs a real OS and is a productivity beast) or an iPad (that has a way more tablet specific apps and is a far better tablet)? That product is 200% DOA.

The two things that make it interesting to me:
1) Having the ability to use different user accounts so my kids don’t have access to all of my stuff
2) Being able to dock it with a real keyboard, monitor and mouse.

True, ChromeOS doesn’t have all the major desktop apps (like Photoshop) but it’s gotten a lot more capable in the past few years. They’re getting close to the balance between desktop and tablet OS. The MS Surface still feels too “desktop” like, even in tablet mode, and the iPad Pro still feels very much like a tablet (or blown up phone) without mouse support.

Of course I’m typing this on my iPad Pro right now, and I hope Apple will “borrow / claim to invent” some of these ideas in the future. With Google’s track record on these devices, I don’t know if we can count on a Pixel Slate 2 coming out next year, or if they’ll try out yet another new concept.
 
The two things that make it interesting to me:
1) Having the ability to use different user accounts so my kids don’t have access to all of my stuff
2) Being able to dock it with a real keyboard, monitor and mouse.

True, ChromeOS doesn’t have all the major desktop apps (like Photoshop) but it’s gotten a lot more capable in the past few years. They’re getting close to the balance between desktop and tablet OS. The MS Surface still feels too “desktop” like, even in tablet mode, and the iPad Pro still feels very much like a tablet (or blown up phone) without mouse support.

Of course I’m typing this on my iPad Pro right now, and I hope Apple will “borrow / claim to invent” some of these ideas in the future. With Google’s track record on these devices, I don’t know if we can count on a Pixel Slate 2 coming out next year, or if they’ll try out yet another new concept.

There is only so many practical ways to input or interact with data on these devices at a reasonable cost, hardware requirements and package without being complicated for the end users understanding.

Touch screens existed before the introduction of the iPhone, however Apple simplified the gesture and interactive elements.

At present the practical methods at a fair cost is a keyboard, mouse, tablet/touch, stylus/pencil. Finger/hand/limb/eyes/voice gestures and commands are nice to have for most and a necessity for those with accessibility issues. AR/VR uses gesture tracking to interact in a virtual space. If mind control is available at a consumer friendly cost with the ease of what Apple introduces with touch UI/UX I look forward to it.

Apple is not making technology for a specific group, as profits and market share matter to a companies growth and sustainability. I am not saying Apple cannot do better by their loyal customers, I am saying the alternative solutions have not been as well accepted or understood by the general public.

Case in point I see many users lost in AndroidOS UX/UI, their use it as it was either an affordable price or free compared to iOS with the look and functionality being similar.

I find far few people lost in iOS, there are a few however not many. Please don’t compare with a technology savvy demograph, as every generation has its go to tech enthusiasts.
 
Actually, I gather that most consumers don’t even care about the notch in general. The ones that make the biggest deal about the notch on the iPhone when it launched for the 2017 X, were the ones on a tech forum. Anyone that I know that has owned the iPhone X has never even commented on the notch whatsoever. You just have those on the Internet That Like to exacerbate something to make it more of an issue, when it’s not.

Users from those very same tech forums also say they don't notice it after 5 minutes. I'm surprise they haven't add notches to their TVs, picture frames, or windshields. When something interrupts your content you notice it, you may not say anything, but you notice it. None of the current notch design in screens serves any form or function. The notch design doesn't enable Face Id functionality, or front camera functionality and the content form is a rectangle presented on screen that interrupts part of it. But I wont be the one saying that my $$$$ purchase is not very practical or good looking.


Anyway, Apple designed it, is beautiful, they love it :rolleyes::

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Ahahahahahahahahaha seriously?!

THAT was the tradeoff for face recognition on the iPhone and an edge to edge display. Even people who didn’t like it understood why they did it. Yet Google don’t have either and still sport the notch.

What an absolute farce.

Funny fact: the notch design is not what enables FaceId and the screen is not edge to edge (because of the notch)
 
View attachment 793493 They tapped somwhere on the display to make the photo extra dark! How clever google

You are spot on. It is the light measuring system (exists on any camera) but on the smartphones is set to work automatically. However, if you tap on the bright part of the photo is gonna assume that composure is overexposed and it will lower the exposure making it dark. So yeah. it is a photo taken with the iPhone Xs, but they made sure to make it look as dark as possible. Cheeky bastards! :)
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Users from those very same tech forums also say they don't notice it after 5 minutes. I'm surprise they haven't add notches to their TVs, picture frames, or windshields.

Oh please! TV's and Photo frames and windshields are things you don't interact with. You only stare at them. With the smartphone, you get lost in content doing things. With the exception of watching videos on it (which I rarely do, use iPad for that) I get focused on things I am doing in the phone and I have no time to think about the notch. Yes, I would rather have no notch and just edge to edge screen. But does it bother me that much? Absolutely not.

That being said, with this Google pixel thing, we are seeing the notch on steroids! I mean WTF!! That super thick chin and super thick notch combined together? Just why? Why make a notch at all if your device does have that thick chin? Just add a full bezel and call it a day? If they were trying to design the ugliest device on the planet, I think they have succeeded.
 
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View attachment 793493 They tapped somwhere on the display to make the photo extra dark! How clever google
No shhht. You have to go out of the way and alter the photo to achieve that Xs pic. Who are they trying to fool?
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Users from those very same tech forums also say they don't notice it after 5 minutes. I'm surprise they haven't add notches to their TVs, picture frames, or windshields. When something interrupts your content you notice it, you may not say anything, but you notice it. None of the current notch design in screens serves any form or function. The notch design doesn't enable Face Id functionality, or front camera functionality and the content form is a rectangle presented on screen that interrupts part of it. But I wont be the one saying that my $$$$ purchase is not very practical or good looking.


Anyway, Apple designed it, is beautiful, they love it :rolleyes::

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Funny fact: the notch design is not what enables FaceId and the screen is not edge to edge (because of the notch)
What? It houses the components necessary for Face ID. How else were they suppose to implimet the tech in the screen. By making a forehead or bigger bezels? The notch is temporary until Apple figures out a way to implement face is behind pixels (which the files a patent for)..l.l.l Don’t be that guy.
 
the problem is the software not the hardware...Android, privacy, data gathering and spying is the big issue here.
 
I really like Call Screen feature. I hope Apple can implement something like this in the near future, hopefully either iOS 12.5 or iOS 13.

Every time I get random calls, I added to "Spam" contact list that have massive phone numbers in there (approx. 50). I know it's a waste of time. There is no "Block" button on the calling screen but would be nice to have that.

So next time, I get a call, I can easily tell it's "Spam" or not. See screenshot:
 

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the problem is the software not the hardware...Android, privacy, data gathering and spying is the big issue here.

I realize (think?) Google sniffs at more of my information (email contents, etc.) more than Apple - but when it comes to privacy - Is there a difference in an app vendor - say Facebook - using your data if you have their app installed on an an iOS device or an Android device?

Is there some site dedicated to a thorough discussion of privacy issues between platforms and apps running on those platforms? (and preferably not a thread on Apple or Google based forums)
 
I realize (think?) Google sniffs at more of my information (email contents, etc.) more than Apple - but when it comes to privacy - Is there a difference in an app vendor - say Facebook - using your data if you have their app installed on an an iOS device or an Android device?

Is there some site dedicated to a thorough discussion of privacy issues between platforms and apps running on those platforms? (and preferably not a thread on Apple or Google based forums)

If its made by Google or Facebook you don't want it on your device, and stuff like YouTube you can access via a browser. There are other data gatherers like Yahoo.

The problem with Android is that the whole OS is made by Google so you never know whats going on in the background. It was discovered that Google does record your location on Android even if you disable Location tracking in the settings. You just can't trust a company like that.
 
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