It is not just the ads. It is the principle. We have with Google and Facebook two companies collecting huge amounts of personal, often intimate data. For the moment the available computations power is not sufficient to sift through all this data, but the time will come when it will be possible to draw extensive conclusions about your personal life from it. And then imagine those data in the hand of health insurance companies that are looking for reasons to not accept you, or in the hand of HR of companies deciding if to fire you or not, or in the hand of officials from whose goodwill you might depend in sensitive matters. The list of possible misuse is endless when you start thinking of it. The only way to prevent that, is to give those data hogs as little data as possible. Because when something is technically feasible, it will happen eventually, that much is clear.
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Google Assistant Gaining Support for Multiple Requests and Continued Conversations, Will Be Able to Make Phone Calls for You in the Future
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It is not just the ads. It is the principle. We have with Google and Facebook two companies collecting huge amounts of personal, often intimate data. For the moment the available computations power is not sufficient to sift through all this data, but the time will come when it will be possible to draw extensive conclusions about your personal life from it. And then imagine those data in the hand of health insurance companies that are looking for reasons to not accept you, or in the hand of HR of companies deciding if to fire you or not, or in the hand of officials from whose goodwill you might depend in sensitive matters. The list of possible misuse is endless when you start thinking of it. The only way to prevent that, is to give those data hogs as little data as possible. Because when something is technically feasible, it will happen eventually, that much is clear.
Ir shouldn’t really matter should it, If you’re talking to an AI or a human. There’s no need to be rude. Google have already said that they would have the AI disclose that it’s not a real person at the start of the call.
That's what I said.
Interesting idea.
And there I was, thinking that this could lead to politer conversations
Instead, you conceive of a world where AIs are treated poorly because you can do so and they won't protest. Reminds me of the Flesh Fair in the movie "AI".
As for identification, I again point to Apple's concept where that was not done. Mind you, I'm not opposed to such a requirement, although it could get old hearing such a notice all the time in the future, as this kind of thing becomes widespread. Hmm. Perhaps lawmakers could mandate a particular set of voices that eventually everyone would automatically recognize. Like the infamous "Hi, I'm Heather" credit card robocalls we constantly get in the US. (Only half joking)
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And people wonder why AI’s rise up and revolt in these films.That's what I said.
Interesting idea.
And there I was, thinking that this could lead to politer conversations
Instead, you conceive of a world where AIs are treated poorly because you can do so and they won't protest. Reminds me of the Flesh Fair in the movie "AI".
I don’t see it as a choice between not knowing it’s a computer, and being rude. That’s a silly reduction. Humans spend time on socializing for a variety of reasons and with a variety of potential benefits, but the effort doesn’t make much sense if it’s not a sentient being on the other side. What’s more, that added fluff is more likely to confuse the conversation. If you knew you were speaking with a computer, you wouldn’t bother asking the small talk stuff, and could handle the transaction more efficiently.
I wonder what’s going to happen when bad actors get this technology. It wouldn't take a very long audio sample to train an AI to mimic someone’s voice perfectly, then there could be pandemonium. Deep fakes can already mimic someone’s face. Add a voice to that, and we’ll never know what’s real again!
Don't worry. Apple doesn't have the ability to implement that.
Or Westworld.Interesting idea.
And there I was, thinking that this could lead to politer conversations
Instead, you conceive of a world where AIs are treated poorly because you can do so and they won't protest. Reminds me of the Flesh Fair in the movie "AI".
In the very least, I certainly don't talk to Siri the same way I talk to my friends.
With voice assistants, people are probably more likely to bark instructions at them than make a polite request you would towards someone you are close with, and thus have incentive to want to preserve that relationship. With Siri, there is simply no advantage to using words like "please" or "can you" or "thank you" because it doesn't factor into getting the job done.
If it's convenience you want to talk about, being courteous with a voice assistant simply makes no sense in terms of time saved.
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It's not so much about being rude. I just don't see the point of being polite to a voice assistant. A non-living entity made up of zeros and ones. If anything, I consider it insulting and demeaning to have to be polite when talking to a computer.
When I use Siri to text a friend, I say "Hey Siri, message John Bro, I got you lunch."
I don't say "Hey Siri, can you please help me message John and tell him that I got him his lunch?"
Nor do I thank Siri after the task is completed. Well, I did once for the kicks, but the reality is that it serves no practical purpose.
Well at the moment Siri and even the google assistant are not that conversational. It’s usually just asking them one thing and you get a response. However if an AI is capable of holding a full blown conversation as demoed at google I/o then I’d have no problems with being polite just as I would be to a human on the phone who I didn’t know but was having a business interaction with.
What is this comparison?
I cook my own food
...And you really need a barber but to make an appointment to a restaurant you don't need some AI if you're able to do this.I didn't know you're not able to make a simple call
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Hmm... Duplex will be a good way to deal with people you don't want to talk to like robocallers, scamsters, telemarketers, etc. Google Voice with Hangouts already asks the caller to announce their name before ringing your phone so Google can expand on that with Duplex.
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It would be useful if you are late for work and need to get out the house quickly. I can see use cased and some people aren't great on the phone and get nervous calling up to order food or book things.
Or maybe don’t have time to make the call or are engaged in another activity at the time.
Yep and if the wife says make sure you book that table while you are both running late lol I can see cases when I would certainly use this.
I don’t want my phone doing the talking for me just like I don’t want my car doing the driving for me.
The only time I use SIRI is on the ATV4K and it’s fairly handy for that but even if it worked great I just don’t see how it makes my life that much better. I mean is it for time savings? How much time does any of this really save?
The only time I use SIRI is on the ATV4K and it’s fairly handy for that but even if it worked great I just don’t see how it makes my life that much better. I mean is it for time savings? How much time does any of this really save?
Oh trust me. We are gonna see a subreddit specifically dedicated to google assistant screw ups. I can’t wait for it either!
I’ve had a person tell me this as well and I’ll I can say is I don’t care how well it works. I just don’t use the feature. I don’t really use 3D Touch either but it doesn’t keep me from using the myriad of other features the phone has to offer. To me a digital assistant is nothing more than a (fraction of) a time saver with a lot of gimmick thrown in. It takes no more time to open my weather app than it does for GA, or SIRI to tell me the temperature.
Also, an old Nokia is a far cry from an iPhone X with or without SIRI.
I agree with the quoted post. I’m not lying to myself. How much time do you need to save that you can’t make a call yourself and, you know, talk to a real human. If someone calls me with a damn robot I hang up. Pure and simple! It cracks me up that folks think they’re so busy they can’t possibly do two things at once.
Do you not think those are important considerations? Let’s be honest. Google and amazon give a crap about privacy. In fact it goes against their business model. Apple has pushed the security/privacy to the point its their motto. They can’t just turn around and blow that without taking a serious hit as a company. People are always looking g to eat them alive over the issue as is.
Because I’m not a blind follower of Apple you call me a fandroid? You just sound like Tim Cook, only hearing what he wants to hear and giving it a spin, lol. How short sided.
Guess there aren't too many tech fans on MacRumor. Any tech guy, or girl, that watched the video of Google's A.I. advancements and doesn't find it more that incredible is...
Some people are more interested in poop emoji than technology that make their life easier.
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