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Build quality? Are you kidding me? The f.ing phone bends in the pocket.
The last well built iphone was the 4s.

Here's an image of a bent iPhone 4s

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Here's an image of a bent Google nexus phone.

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It happens to a lot more phones than you think.
 
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It is only a matter of time before Apple launches "Apple Search" and makes it default

I give it ~ 2 years. Likely, via several M&A purchases (including DuckDuckGo)

And when that happens, Google is going to take and immediate 20%-25% hit to it's revenue
I remember the first time I heard this thought. I think the year started with "19".
 
He just doesn't understand that being first out with something makes it the best for customers. As long as he focuses on being first, he'll continue to loose the bulk of sales. Apple focuses on benefits for specific sectors, and creates products that best provide those benefits. Google and Samsung focus on features and attempt to get them to market first. Features need to provide the proper benefits to be of value.
 
Unfortunately for Apple, craftsmanship isn't something that can be shown in the spec column like all the half baked ideas seen from Android.
 
At Apple – just like Google –

nah, bitch...it's "At Google – just like Apple."

It's far too ironic that he's the one who said that, considering you could start any sentence about pretty much any Android IP the same way...
 
This is something both Android and iOS folks don't seem to see. Competition only benefits us, the consumers. We don't want anyone to go out of business. The more players there are, one upping each other, making the other have to make their product bigger and better, the better the products are for us. With no competition, Apple or Google have no need to release anything better the next year because they're already the best option.

That's a point goes over most Apple fans heads. When there wasn't competition, iPhone 3/iOS2 users were begging for'cut, copy and paste' and MMS and being told we 'didn't need it.

When other smartphones hit the scene, Apple upped their game. The iPhone 4 was a quantum leap beacuse of the threat Apple suddenly had in the smartphone market.

Apple fans foolishly think 'they win' if Apple wins. You aren't Apple. (Even you, 'handful of shares owner guy' who's paid just as much in Apple markup as they've 'made' from their stock). You're a customer. And the only thing that keeps Apple making great products is fear you'll spend your money somewhere else. Fortunately for them, millions of their customers ignore slipping product quality and fiascos like today's 8.01 release and will defend Apple with the same blind faith and complex thought a small child does with their mother. ('You said something bad about mommy, you're mean!')
 
The irony is that Eric Schmidt helped create a world where features could be copied on a whim, patents and prior art be damned. Now he's bitter that Apple has a iPhone 6 Plus in a similar size to the Samsung Note? Hell, the first Note looked almost exactly like a giant iPhone (intentionally). Did he really expect that Samsung should be the only company allowed to make a bigassed smartphone?
 
This is something both Android and iOS folks don't seem to see. Competition only benefits us, the consumers. We don't want anyone to go out of business. The more players there are, one upping each other, making the other have to make their product bigger and better, the better the products are for us. With no competition, Apple or Google have no need to release anything better the next year because they're already the best option.

Agreed 100%, however by preserving their research money for subsequent improvements rather than spending it on original development, slavishly copying gives one manufacturer a huge and unfair advantage over all the competition, and is considered sleazy by most reasonably-minded people.
 
Where'd this whole -gate naming convention come from? (Yes, I know about celebgate, but why -gate??)

From "Watergate", read up about US president Nixon.

However its become a standard add on now for ever scandal because well journalists know how simple minded their readers actually are (they aim at average 12 year olds for reading and comprehension skills) and to readers adding "gate" makes the journalist seem clever.
 
Let me stop Apple bashing for a second to say that my Gold iPhone 5s is astonishingly nice. It's about one of the nicest things I've ever touched. That's why I'm so disappointed in the 6/6+. I was hoping for even better. I was hoping for

Bezel-less
2 gigs ram
Sapphire display
Rock solid construction
Waterproof
Wireless charging
256MB storage
5 Inch display

Oh well. Maybe next year.

Having used the iPhone 5s for year before getting the 6 and 6 plus, the 5s is a joke compared to the new phones. I literally cannot stand to look at the old phone after using the new ones. Even if the 6 and 6+ doesn't have all of those features, they are still amazing phones.
 
Build quality? Are you kidding me? The f.ing phone bends in the pocket.
The last well built iphone was the 4s.

Here we go with another round of stupidity crap. This will likely evolve the same way as the antenna fiasco. Every phone always has and always will loose reception and transmission power when you wrap your hand around its antenna. Every phone will bend when you apply high angular stress to it. Neither of these are unique to Apple products. Every product from every manufacturer follows the same basic laws of physics.
 
"Samsung had these products a year ago"

I don't seem to remember a high end android phone as thin, lite and with a build quality like the iphone 6.

Holy Fanboy blinders Batman. Though its probably exaggerated phones shouldn't be bending in a front pocket as they are being reported to. Second They don't need to keep making the iphone thinner its been thin enough since the iphone 4S.

iOs has been a completely gong show since its release. Health kit not working, wifi and battery drain issues brutal.

In my two years of Android use I have never an os update even close to as buggy as ios 8.
 
Guess what people? Apple and Google work together but make it seem like they're rivals. It's good for business. :apple:
 
Here's an image of a bent iPhone 4s

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Here's an image of a bent Google nexus phone.

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It happens to a lot more phones than you think.

It does, which is why the hysteria over this is a bit ridiculous.

That said, it is Apple, and they pride themselves on being different and better than the competition, so that is what I expect from them. They need to buckle down and improve their service, even if I'm not in the 'Apple is ~doomed~' and '~Steve Jobs would never!~' camps.
 
Having used the iPhone 5s for year before getting the 6 and 6 plus, the 5s is a joke compared to the new phones. I literally cannot stand to look at the old phone after using the new ones. Even if the 6 and 6+ doesn't have all of those features, they are still amazing phones.

Which do you like better, the 6 or 6+?
 
Samsung DID NOT have the product a year ago. They had the physical housing...not iOS. The operating system is what sets iPhone apart. The design is icing on the cake.
 
It is only a matter of time before Apple launches "Apple Search" and makes it default

I give it ~ 2 years. Likely, via several M&A purchases (including DuckDuckGo)

And when that happens, Google is going to take and immediate 20%-25% hit to it's revenue

They have already released it. It's Spotlight Search and its fast and providing more relevant info daily. Maps in now integrated in a way that blew me away. Just start typing a nearby business in spotlight on the iPhone and watch what happens. I'm glad they are attacking behind the scenes
 
This is why Android still lacks the level of polish (8.0.1 update aside) iOS does. It's not about who got there first. It's about who got right first. Samsung had larger phones first. Yet the first models sucked. Battery life atrocious. Display quality awful. Usability still awful. Remember HTC Thunderbolt? The first LTE phone? Yea... feels so good to be first. Not.
 
Build quality? Are you kidding me? The f.ing phone bends in the pocket.
The last well built iphone was the 4s.

I don't see anyone bending a galaxy note, because if they did it would probably break in a heart beat!
 
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