I'd love to use Safari but am sticking with Chrome....why? Safari is missing multi profile and for me, that's important. For all you Brave users, I get it but good luck convincing your companies IT department to allow it.
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alexandr
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Honestly, I prefer Safari, I hate Google's aesthetics. The only Google product I use over Apple's is the maps, Apple Maps just don't do it for me.
Even if you disable anything that is possible, Chrome still collects much more data than ANY other browser and sends those data to Google. Google never cared about user's privacy. Each new service of Google just has the goal of gathering more data to deliver more personalised ads, that achieve a higher conversion rate. Even Android was just developed to gather data. As well as Google Mail, Google Earth, Google Books, Google Fonts, Google Analytics and all the other stuff.
As many people block third party cookies, Google developed a lot of tricks to still track people against their will. Fingerprinting is just one of them. They can even identify people by their typing pattern. Everybody has a different typing speed for different characters. So if you type a few search terms into Google Search, Google can identify you by your typing pattern.
Microsoft also is very data hungry. Even if you set privacy to a maximum in Windows 10 or 11, Microsoft will still send tons of data to Microsoft servers unless you stop that by external measures like a firewall in your router. Both Google and Microsoft might get into serious trouble very soon and face billions of Euros of fines.
StevieD100
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Anything from Google is banned in my home (same for Amazon and Microsoft but that is another story)
It frustrates the hell out of me when people use Google Forms. To reply you MUST have a google account. That is way too far for me. Even sites that insist on using Google's CAPCHA's get me mad. Google is not the answer to anything. All they are interested in is your data and how much money they can make from it.
I have locked down my network so much that even visitors can't use it with chrome. They can use it if they know how to set up a VPN.
It frustrates the hell out of me when people use Google Forms. To reply you MUST have a google account. That is way too far for me. Even sites that insist on using Google's CAPCHA's get me mad. Google is not the answer to anything. All they are interested in is your data and how much money they can make from it.
I have locked down my network so much that even visitors can't use it with chrome. They can use it if they know how to set up a VPN.
They've completely switched their app over to Electron, so it probably works a lot better now, though that switch from native Apple to Electron is why I migrated to Bitwarden. Not just because of Electron, but it's like their entire app went to garbage after the switch. Had the app stayed similar I might have stayed, but 1Password is utter trash now.
Nothing you disable in Chrome keeps Google from tracking every single thing you do. I'm not sure where you came up with this line of thinking, but it's completely wrong, sorry.
Oh god. Web3 is a rebrand of scam crypto projects. It'll never take off.
Web3 is Going Just Great
A timeline recording only some of the many disasters happening in crypto, decentralized finance, NFTs, and other blockchain-based projects.web3isgoinggreat.com
Come back to the real world.
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orderoftheditch
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Chrome in iOS is nothing but Safari (WebKit) with a Google UI wrapper around it. These new features won't be coming across as Google has no control over the browser engine on iOS. Apple explicitly prevents third party browser render engines from appearing on the App Store.
they are giving away free products/services, they have to make money some how.
Nothing is free.
almost every service Google provides is free, they have to make money, only way they can make money is by collecting data and targeted advertisements.
Using free services and not providing them with data is not good idea.
If i install an app in my phone i let them track my activity.
most websites, all youtube content creators make money by advertisements.
no one wants to pay for these services anymore.
Agree 100% Firefox is my main browser. Love that their ad blocking extensions are more powerful than what Google allows in Chrome.
LOL...so do you just forego ALL modern conveniences in life then? No Google, no Amazon and no Microsoft? That would be like living in the 1980s again for me. Might as well just boycott the internet and give up your cell phone too while you're at it!
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How am I locked in ?
I can use 1Password across different browsers on all of my devices keeping them all in sync.
Its is also available across different platforms
If anything it is the opposite of lock in.
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quaresma
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It’s MUCH more than that. Sad to see such FUD on here
It’s basically/almost a Degoogled Chromium
Deviations from Chromium (features we disable or remove)
Brave browser for Android, iOS, Linux, macOS, Windows. - brave/brave-browser
github.com
In what way?
I never had high memory load issues with chrome, and I use webapps extensively.
You're not.
I'm talking about people who don't know what password managers are, who accept the prompt to save their password when they enter it. They do that for a few more sites, suddenly the browser is their password manager without realizing it. They all want you to sign into a Google, Microsoft, or Mozilla account.
That's why those browser vendors won't support Apple's autofill API on Mac. They don't want interoperability. Especially not Google and Microsoft. I'm kind of surprised at Mozilla but not really considering their direction the last few years. For an open browser they sure are user hostile sometimes.
That’s odd, I never get any pop ups on any devices using Edge. It just starts right up no prompts.
To be fair I’ve never seen a website compatibility issue with any chrome based browser. Chromium literally seems to work on every site.
And yet....
A Big Bet to Kill the Password for Good
After a decade of work, the FIDO Alliance says it’s found the missing piece in the bridge to a password-free future.
What evidence is there that using Chrome gets you data mined by Google? Quite the opposite, Chrome has historically been considered the most secure browser (of the big three), so using Chrome is likely to keep me better protected from malicious actors on the web.
And yet....
A Big Bet to Kill the Password for Good
After a decade of work, the FIDO Alliance says it’s found the missing piece in the bridge to a password-free future.www.wired.com
And we've come full circle. Who do you think wants to manage your passkeys? Apple, Google, and Microsoft.
No, they're not joking. Chromium is the open-source scaffolding that Google has developed but which many other browsers utilize. I don't use the crypto stuff and have no interest in it. I am sure many other Brave users also don't care about the crypto aspect, which can be shut off with one or two clicks of the trackpad. I can also tell you that Brave DOES NOT REPLACE ADS WITH THEIR OWN ADS. This is a rumor that keeps circulating and is based off experiments that Brave were doing a while back.
Personally speaking, the three things that matter most for me as an ordinary end user are speed, privacy, and - when on a laptop - battery life. The first criterion means Safari is out of the running, as its webkit engine just doesn't perform as well on my MacOS devices (which, admittedly, both still have an Intel chip--maybe it's different on Apple silicon). Firefox is actually a little bit faster than Brave on desktop, but the problem with Firefox on MacOS is ...
Battery management. It just gobbles up my Macbook battery compared to Brave and seems to do a much poorer job of throttling down background scripts and other kinds of background connections. To address this, you basically need to install a special Firefox add-on called superstop, but I personally don't like having to nurse my browser like this.
In terms of privacy, both browsers are good, but Firefox defaults users into their telemetry, which supposedly goes toward "anonymized studies." Not sure what that is, but no thanks. I shut that off, just as I shut off Brave's crypto and BAT stuff.
But probably the biggest deal breaker for me in terms of using Firefox as my primary browser is that Firefox on ios is a hot mess. Really, really bad. And I'm not talking about just visual design, which is just a matter of personal preference. I mean, it has no built-in comprehensive ad blocking (which even Edge on ios has, as idiosyncratic as it might be). It claims to block a few ads that can be used to track, but I've seen no practical pay-off to that.
As a result, Firefox on iOS is slooooooooooow. It makes my ipad heat up just loading a couple of pages, which takes maybe twice or even three times as long than loading the same page in Brave on ios. Firefox on iOS also crashes constantly, at least for me. Since I rely on cross-device syncing, the tragedy that is firefox on ios devices is kind of a dealbreaker and I have been using Brave for many months now.
Battery management. It just gobbles up my Macbook battery compared to Brave and seems to do a much poorer job of throttling down background scripts and other kinds of background connections. To address this, you basically need to install a special Firefox add-on called superstop, but I personally don't like having to nurse my browser like this.
In terms of privacy, both browsers are good, but Firefox defaults users into their telemetry, which supposedly goes toward "anonymized studies." Not sure what that is, but no thanks. I shut that off, just as I shut off Brave's crypto and BAT stuff.
But probably the biggest deal breaker for me in terms of using Firefox as my primary browser is that Firefox on ios is a hot mess. Really, really bad. And I'm not talking about just visual design, which is just a matter of personal preference. I mean, it has no built-in comprehensive ad blocking (which even Edge on ios has, as idiosyncratic as it might be). It claims to block a few ads that can be used to track, but I've seen no practical pay-off to that.
As a result, Firefox on iOS is slooooooooooow. It makes my ipad heat up just loading a couple of pages, which takes maybe twice or even three times as long than loading the same page in Brave on ios. Firefox on iOS also crashes constantly, at least for me. Since I rely on cross-device syncing, the tragedy that is firefox on ios devices is kind of a dealbreaker and I have been using Brave for many months now.
I strongly suspect, but am obviously just speculating, that one reason Firefox hasn't bothered to develop robust adblocking for its ios/ipados platform is precisely this--they know Google is neck-deep in the advertising sector and don't want to bite the hand that feeds them.