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My Chrome Memory and Energy Saver Mode is to use Safari. It's also a privacy saver! As a web developer I have to use all of them at some point during the day, but Safari is my main and IDK why more people don't use it. It's great! I consistently have 300+ tabs open during the day across like 12 windows in different spaces across three monitors because I'm clearly insane, but it handles it fine. Safari is the multitasking GOAT. Eventually it starts going kinda weird if I get up over 400-500 tabs or let it go for a week without a restart, but it's more stable than any other browser I've tried under such conditions.
Don’t know why it is, but the weakness I have found with safari is with super resource intensive business-class websites. Sites that need to process a lot of dynamic data, display charts, etc. My guess is it is probably overly conservative in being efficient that it just can’t handle those type of sites well. I have to use chrome for business web apps.

For general consumer web browsing though. Safari is great.
 
Yes, it's annoying. I'm just glad Brave exists so I can enjoy a browser that's compatible with everything on the web without all the astronomical spyware bloat.
You're joking right?

First of all, Brave uses Chromium, which is maintained by Google. As a matter of fact, Edge is also using Chromium. This means if Chrome isn't compatible with something, neither will Brave. Brave is simply a reskinned Chome with a built in ad-blocker and good marketing. It's also a crypto scam. Brave also replaces ads on websites with their own ads. It should be illegal.
 
Unfortunately, Chrome is becoming the Explorer of the 2020s. IT guys are pushing it hard and making chrome the only compatible browser. Safari exists because Microsoft created the same lock down of the net and then stopped supporting the Mac properly. Google did the same thing with Maps on the iPhone and Apple Maps was born.
That's funny. Microsoft Edge, Brave, and countless other browsers are based on Chromium, which is built by Google and also powers Chrome.

Based on pure market share alone, making a web app work on Chromium should be #1 priority for any IT department.
 
Why would you ever use Chrome and let yourself get data mined by Google?
Reasons I use Chrome and not Safari are:
- All synced, especially passwords, on Mac, Linux, iPhone, whatever I need.
- Safari's interface recently got much cleaner but it has often changed and introduced useless animations or graphics that just made the experience feel much slower to me every time I used it, compared to Chrome.
- Not sure if it's still that way but last time I tried to use Safari, it didn't show icons on the favourites bar!
- Chrome just used to be faster and feel faster, I got used to it and I feel slightly "trapped" into being used to it.

I also tried to switch to Firefox several times! It solves syncing problem but there are other similar deal-breakers I frankly do not remember. Periodically, I ask myself "Why am I not using Firefox?", switch for a few days, find some major problem, switch back, forget why I switched back. I'll probably try to switch again.
 
Don’t know why it is, but the weakness I have found with safari is with super resource intensive business-class websites. Sites that need to process a lot of dynamic data, display charts, etc. My guess is it is probably overly conservative in being efficient that it just can’t handle those type of sites well. I have to use chrome for business web apps.

For general consumer web browsing though. Safari is great.


I've found that Safari still struggles with some e-commerce websites, some shopping sites etc. Usually at the point of trying to process a payment. It just hangs or shows a white page, even with all blockers and plugins etc. turned off.

Chrome is rock solid and never fails on this sense. So I use Safari because it's fast for general browsing but then have to switch to Chrome if I want to pay for something on a new website. Sometimes I'll try it on safari. Amazon works fine on safari but it's hit and miss for smaller sites - I guess lots of the web is 'built for chrome'.
 
You're joking right?

First of all, Brave uses Chromium, which is maintained by Google. As a matter of fact, Edge is also using Chromium. This means if Chrome isn't compatible with something, neither will Brave. Brave is simply a reskinned Chome with a built in ad-blocker and good marketing. It's also a crypto scam. Brave also replaces ads on websites with their own ads. It should be illegal.
No. I'm not even remotely joking. I know Brave and Edge use Chromium. I use Brave specifically because it is Chromium without all the Googleyness. The point of my post was that 90% of the internet uses Chrome or a Chromium-based browser, so pretty much most of the internet tries to make their content compatible with Chromium, and therefore it will most likely be compatible with Brave. When I tried Firefox, I found myself switching back to Brave half the time and I don't like jumping between browsers. With Brave I can stay in one browser and also not have to worry about Google's massive data mining. Brave isn't a crypto scam because all of that crypto stuff is turned off by default. It's only on if you choose to participate in the crypto ad program, which you get paid for participating in, so I think your idea of what a scam is doesn't apply here. There's nothing illegal about an opt-in ad program that makes the user money. Again, it's off by default. Brave is completely de-bloated of Google. It's a very fast and great browser. And yes, I know they had some shady behavior in the past that they've now rectified, but for that to have any weight whatsoever, you'd have to completely ignore the infinitely worse things Google and Microsoft have and are still doing. You can't champion other browsers that are far worse because Brave did something they apologized for and haven't done since. I also don't like Firefox (besides certain websites not working) because 99% of their funding comes from Google just so Google can keep an alternative browser engine in the market so they don't look like a monopoly.

Your clear hatred of Brave keeps you from seeing its benefits. On top of that, Web3 is around the corner and you will no longer be able to block ads properly in Google Chrome or Edge. Brave has and will continue to have built in ad blocking to circumvent this and it will be one of the only Chromium-based browsers that can effectively block ads. There will be garbage versions of things like uBlock Origin ... called uBlock Origin Lite ... which is trash compared to the original. Firefox and Brave will pretty much be the only effective browsers for ad blocking. Unless you use a DNS-based ad blocker such as the AdGuard app, which block ads at the desktop level, bypassing any Web3 nonsense.


Reasons I use Chrome and not Safari are:
- All synced, especially passwords, on Mac, Linux, iPhone, whatever I need.
- Safari's interface recently got much cleaner but it has often changed and introduced useless animations or graphics that just made the experience feel much slower to me every time I used it, compared to Chrome.
- Not sure if it's still that way but last time I tried to use Safari, it didn't show icons on the favourites bar!
- Chrome just used to be faster and feel faster, I got used to it and I feel slightly "trapped" into being used to it.

I also tried to switch to Firefox several times! It solves syncing problem but there are other similar deal-breakers I frankly do not remember. Periodically, I ask myself "Why am I not using Firefox?", switch for a few days, find some major problem, switch back, forget why I switched back. I'll probably try to switch again.
For cross-platform password syncing, I would highly recommend Bitwarden, which is free. I use it on Mac, Windows, and my iPhone and it works perfectly across all of them.
 
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No. I'm not even remotely joking. I know Brave and Edge use Chromium. I use Brave specifically because it is Chromium without all the Googleyness. The point of my post was that 90% of the internet uses Chrome or a Chromium-based browser, so pretty much most of the internet tries to make their content compatible with Chromium, and therefore it will most likely be compatible with Brave. When I tried Firefox, I found myself switching back to Brave half the time and I don't like jumping between browsers. With Brave I can stay in one browser and also not have to worry about Google's massive data mining. Brave isn't a crypto scam because all of that crypto stuff is turned off by default. It's only on if you choose to participate in the crypto ad program, which you get paid for participating in, so I think your idea of what a scam is doesn't apply here. There's nothing illegal about an opt-in ad program that makes the user money. Again, it's off by default. Brave is completely de-bloated of Google. It's a very fast and great browser. And yes, I know they had some shady behavior in the past that they've now rectified, but for that to have any weight whatsoever, you'd have to completely ignore the infinitely worse things Google and Microsoft have and are still doing. You can't champion other browsers that are far worse because Brave did something they apologized for and haven't done since. I also don't like Firefox (besides certain websites not working) because 99% of their funding comes from Google just so Google can keep an alternative browser engine in the market so they don't look like a monopoly.

Your clear hatred of Brave keeps you from seeing its benefits. On top of that, Web3 is around the corner and you will no longer be able to block ads properly in Google Chrome or Edge. Brave has and will continue to have built in ad blocking to circumvent this and it will be one of the only Chromium-based browsers that can effectively block ads. There will be garbage versions of things like uBlock Origin ... called uBlock Origin Lite ... which is trash compared to the original. Firefox and Brave will pretty much be the only effective browsers for ad blocking. Unless you use a DNS-based ad blocker such as the AdGuard app, which block ads at the desktop level, bypassing any Web3 nonsense.



For cross-platform password syncing, I would highly recommend Bitwarden, which is free. I use it on Mac, Windows, and my iPhone and it works perfectly across all of them.
A “crypto scam”. Hang on, lemme spit my drink out. Why? Because they give their users completely free BAT which can be immediately converted into USD or used buy gift cards in exchange for engaging with far less irritating ads than your average shopping site has? Or is it because it’s set to automatically tip content creators proportional to the browsing time, potentially supporting independent authorship and less reliance on ads? Is it a scam when Bing does the same but in a 3x more annoying way and makes you answer obnoxious trivia questions? 🤣

Imagine a day when the world had a clue what it was talking about before it developed an opinion. 🤖🎤 “If I only had a 🧠.” 🎶

Kid at lemonade stand gives you a free cup of lemonade.
🧐 “Get outta here, kid. You’re trying to scam me.”
 
No. I'm not even remotely joking. I know Brave and Edge use Chromium. I use Brave specifically because it is Chromium without all the Googleyness. The point of my post was that 90% of the internet uses Chrome or a Chromium-based browser, so pretty much most of the internet tries to make their content compatible with Chromium, and therefore it will most likely be compatible with Brave. When I tried Firefox, I found myself switching back to Brave half the time and I don't like jumping between browsers. With Brave I can stay in one browser and also not have to worry about Google's massive data mining. Brave isn't a crypto scam because all of that crypto stuff is turned off by default. It's only on if you choose to participate in the crypto ad program, which you get paid for participating in, so I think your idea of what a scam is doesn't apply here. There's nothing illegal about an opt-in ad program that makes the user money. Again, it's off by default. Brave is completely de-bloated of Google. It's a very fast and great browser. And yes, I know they had some shady behavior in the past that they've now rectified, but for that to have any weight whatsoever, you'd have to completely ignore the infinitely worse things Google and Microsoft have and are still doing. You can't champion other browsers that are far worse because Brave did something they apologized for and haven't done since. I also don't like Firefox (besides certain websites not working) because 99% of their funding comes from Google just so Google can keep an alternative browser engine in the market so they don't look like a monopoly.

Your clear hatred of Brave keeps you from seeing its benefits. On top of that, Web3 is around the corner and you will no longer be able to block ads properly in Google Chrome or Edge. Brave has and will continue to have built in ad blocking to circumvent this and it will be one of the only Chromium-based browsers that can effectively block ads. There will be garbage versions of things like uBlock Origin ... called uBlock Origin Lite ... which is trash compared to the original. Firefox and Brave will pretty much be the only effective browsers for ad blocking. Unless you use a DNS-based ad blocker such as the AdGuard app, which block ads at the desktop level, bypassing any Web3 nonsense.



For cross-platform password syncing, I would highly recommend Bitwarden, which is free. I use it on Mac, Windows, and my iPhone and it works perfectly across all of them.

Why do you reckon Brave and 1Password don’t play nicely? I have browsed the Brave forums and read a source contributor state that it was Apple’s limitation, though it was a while ago.
 
This is a fantastic combination. Sadly I have to use Windows at times. I have the iCloud for Windows installed, the latest version and I can keep both FireFox and Safari in sync for book marks. I use BitWarden so my passwords are in it and I do not let browsers keep copies of my passwords.

On a Mac it is Safari + Wipr always. If some page does not work....then FireFox and lastely if it needs a chromium browser I will use Edge. Chrome is dead to me and has been for 2-3 years now.
Well not using chrome makes perfect sense but due to our university's lazy-ass IT guys I'm using chrome. Because everytime something goes wrong they'll be like "but did you used chrome, try using chrome" so I gave up.
 
I use two Chrome instances for work only. In recent weeks, Chrome crashes every single time I plug my 14 inch MBP into my Studio Display. I really hope this update resolves this.
 
I switched to Safari (partially) earlier this month because of Chrome’s particularly insane memory behavior on M1 Macs.

Very happy to see with news. But also HOW is freeing up memory from inactive tabs only now being addressed?! I thought that was a standard optimization on modern browsers. 😤
 
On top of that, Web3 is around the corner and you will no longer be able to block ads properly in Google Chrome or Edge.
Oh god. Web3 is a rebrand of scam crypto projects. It'll never take off.


Come back to the real world.
 
For all the people saying use Firefox/safari/edge, I didn’t fully try them, but for the 1-2h I tried, I could not find all my extensions. (Mostly for SEO and for web analytics).
I’m using around 15-20 extensions.

Do you have a workaround? Or a way to use chrome extension elsewhere?

And is there equivalent to the chrome account? I work with 3 differents company and I have a google account for each of them so it’s nice to just quickly open a new chrome windows with bookmark and extension for each.


PS: I always have 10+ tabs but no speed problem with chrome. (M1/16).
Edge will use all of Chrome extensions, you can even install them from the Chrome Store. You are simply trading Chromium with Google slathered all of the top of it for Chromium with Microsoft slathered all over the top of it. Edge also has syncing and profiles, you just do it with Microsoft accounts. I have 3, one personal account and two corporate accounts, one for my every day user and one for my Azure/O365 admin. Each use different themes, and have their own set of favorites and extensions.

I trust Microsoft way more than Google. Simply by the fact that Google makes the vast majority of their revenue from ads...which need YOUR data to do a good job vs Microsoft who sells subcriptions to Azure, O365 and Game pass, actual products. Yes Microsoft sells ads but no one uses Bing so it only makes up a tiny portion of their revenue and could be a loss for all I know. I trust Apple even more and that is why I use Safari as my daily driver on Mac/iOS. Safari lacks extension support, but I use Wipr and BitWarden so it works for me.

All that said if you rely on adblocking, like the excellent Ublock Origin extension, it will be crippled once Mainfest 3 comes into play staring in 2023. Both Chrome and Edge are going to use it.
 
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You're joking right?

First of all, Brave uses Chromium, which is maintained by Google. As a matter of fact, Edge is also using Chromium. This means if Chrome isn't compatible with something, neither will Brave. Brave is simply a reskinned Chome with a built in ad-blocker and good marketing. It's also a crypto scam. Brave also replaces ads on websites with their own ads. It should be illegal.
Yeah I do not get the love for Brave. It just way too much junk in it. The Crypto stuff, their points system or whatever the heck it is....it is the king of bloat.

Using Chromium at the core is not a bad thing. Google does not maintain it, they and others contribute to it. You can download the core Chromium browser (pure) and it has no Google, Microsoft, or Brave code in it. It also lacks things like syncing since it has not account code in it. You can use things like BitWarden and boomkark managers to sync. Chromium pure can use all extensions for Chrome or Edge. Sadly it will get mainfest 3 as that is a core contribution from Google.

Frankly Chromium is more compatible with the Internet that any other browser engine. I do not remember that last time I could not open a page using a Chromium based browser like Chrome or Edge. I can tell you Safari has more problems with websites than any browser I use, followed closely by FireFox. I have a combo of Safari>FF>Edge to make sure I can use all websites.
 
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Seriously , any one who like Chrome just use Brave , its literally a FOSS and privacy version of Chrome. Its Chrome without the Google spy code.
 
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Glad, Google pushed this update out. Desperately needed. Google Chrome has been using too much RAM. Now, we need it for iOS devices too, please.

I never experienced Chrome using much RAM.
RAM has become a non-issue in the past few years anyway.

Don't know if the features will do any good. It sounds to me like webapps in tabs that are not in the foreground may not run properly, or tabs will not be readily available when switching to them.
 
Cool I guess..

I still don't understand why anyone in the world would actually choose to use Google Chrome, when so many other Chromium based alternatives exist with basically all the Chrome features and more, and with actual privacy features implemented on top of that.
 
Check out Orion Browser, all the benefits of Safari while being able to run Chrome/Edge/Firefox/Chromium extensions. And that includes support for the native macOS password manager.

That is pretty cool but I am reluctant to use browser forks. The issue is that vulnerabilities are found upstream and not always reported or fixed quickly, and the forks then have to worry about those as well as any issues that may exist only in the fork.

I did check out the site and their FAQ. I like what they’re about. I’m not knocking them, this is an issue with all third party browsers.
 
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