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Google Claims a 'Hostile, Organized Campaign Against Android'
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Yup.
Google: "They all hate me because I'm smart and good looking. So they ganged up on me"
MS: "No, I asked you to form a gang with me, you refused."
Google: "You're evil, so I didn't want to be with you."
fair enough.
im aware, but it still requires valid credit card to even open an iTunes account (ToS could have changed, but the last time i used it, CC was required). and in order to listen to music in its entirety, you must purchase it. i'm not dogging at the fact that its a paid service. i'm just saying that iTunes isn't necessarily 'free,' which is the original statement i had made. Spotify? thats free. No CC required, and you can listen to whole songs without purchasing a single item. You only have to pay when you want to sync it to a device.
so you confirm that FF runs circles around Safari. Got ya.
You neglected to add the pacifier being removed from Google's mouth to speak.
Seriously? You can hack it to work? The same can be said about iTunes.
and? Android is open in the fact that multiple marketplaces can co-exist no problems. No rooting/jailbreaking required.
Android Amazon Appstore for instance. I have two app stores, and Amazon gives me a free app every day (that is normally a paid app).
iTunes, does not require a Credit Card to be on file to use it, in my experience it does give the the option and no purchase is required to download and utilize the iTunes service. Purchasing songs does require money, however no one forces you to do that which makes the "free" iTunes, legitimately free.
haha yeah. I mean I think Android is amazing, but Google seriously just needs to admit that they infringed and move on. This childish back and forth is making them look stupid to everyone except their blind fans who swear they can do no wrong.
I honestly find it hilarious that people really do think that Google is a "do good" company that will do whatever it takes to restore humanity or something. They're a business just like any other business, and they want money. Plain and simple. I don't get why fandroids just believe everything Google says at face value and accepts it as truth...
And I thought people said Apple users were cultists...
It's the same apps just a different venue. It's not like the Amazon Appstore has its own set of apps that you cant find on the Android market or vice versa...
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You don't need an iTunes account to use iTunes. You don't need to purchase music from the iTunes Store to use iTunes. You don't need to sync with an iDevice to use iTunes. If you are aware, why do you keep saying these things.
No.
Where do you get these ideas?And the Blackberry Playbook is not Android.
no kidding. but the pricing of the apps are cheaper at times. and are also FREE at times.
an option that no Apple owner has.
Many developers in the app store also give apps away for free to catch interest at times, and also give discounts at times.
Oh ok, cuz you said they have "multiple marketplaces" as if there's some benefit to having multiples. It's not like Apple couldn't set up multiple App Stores with different names and offer an app for free...its not like allowing 40 people to sell the same thing is some amazing innovation, IMO.
Familiarity breeds contempt. Steve Jobs has been with us for so long and he's been such strong character with influence in the industry that it's easy and popular to make fun of him and Apple fan/users/people who don't dislike apple, with imagery usually involving graphic sexual activity between Jobs and those people.
On the other hand, Google had a CEO who said some of most alarming comments made by a big company executive in my recent memory:
that should really make people pause and think of the company's intention and the ramifications are, but all people can talk about is Apple koolaid and "you're holding it wrong," because people often don't even know who Google CEO is. Jobs and Apple have become caricatures of their reallife counterparts that is an easy target for internet smart alecs, but it often dilutes from the real issues.
LOL. Actually, it was available on JAILBROKEN phones, not unlocked ones, and the "hack" basically copied the notification functionality of Android.
But really, this whole discussion is pointless and more than silly:
Apple copied Xerox, the iPhone is basically a sleeker version of the ancient Windows Mobile, there were cheap Chinese-made tablets running primitive versions of Android and other small-footprint OSs long before the iPad, and iOS introduced stuff like folders years after Android.
Oh, and that wireless sync in iOS5, touted as the Second Coming, has been available on Android for years, too.
But, so what? Most cars have generally 4 wheels and a steering wheel, too....
Apple has been trying to patent the most prosaic stuff, so that it can threaten smaller competing fish with expensive lawsuitsRight..., like Apple surreptitiously keeping all your whereabouts for a year or more (unencrypted).
Sure, which gets broken by Apple with every minor OS update.
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Agree 100%,many of these people who refer to Apple as a cult, and "Uncle Steve" and "Kool-Aid" don't realize that they're just blindly following Google. I mean did you see how excited fandroids got yesterday cuz Google "took a stand"!!! lol...it's comical to me.
And I have never owned an iPhone. I joined this forum after reading about the patent infringements and realizing that Google messed up big time. Its funny that even here, fandroids are exalting Google on high without looking at it objectively. Patent troll is the new fandroid buzzword, and they don't realize how "cultish" they themselves look when 40 of them say the same thing over and over...
same goes for Android marketplace. Developers can change their pricing with ease.
I consider that innovation on Amazon's part. More ingenious than anything else. And the fact that Google was totally cool with it, makes it all the better. I love how Google likes to work with companies, instead of just shutting them down and talking smack in public (CEO Jobs/flash debacle. extremely rude how he went about that btw).
You don't follow threads do you? Multiple users on this thread have told you to reread some thread posts. I'm going to ask you to do the same. The original question that was asked to me was, 'if any android apps were running on a non android device. to which i replied 'soon, the blackberry playbook.'
I'm sorry, not trying to be difficult, but how is that innovation?? I mean I guess if you wanna consider it innovation ok, but then I could say I consider ios5 having a notification dropdown innovation. Amazon is just selling the exact same apps that you can find on the Android market on their market. Where is the innovation? The free app a day? As mentioned, devs on the App Store can offer free apps too. There's no innovation in opening the exact same store up to the exact same userbase at the exact same time as another store...
The pricing scheme is the innovation. The fact that two marketplaces co-existing on one platform is innovation.
I mean, what if one day, Apple allowed another app store, and that new app store was almost exactly the same as the original appstore, but this time all the pricing of apps were cheaper. You wouldn't consider that innovative?
And btw, the 'free app of the day' from Amazon aren't dinky little apps. They are high profile apps like 'Shazam,' 'Angry Birds HD' etc.
iOS5 having a notification dropdown isn't really innovation because its already been on Android for years now. HOW they implement it can be innovative though. But the 'idea' of dropdown notifications is nothing new, therefore, not innovative. Does that make sense? Not trying to question you or anything, just trying to clarify.
Let's just stick our heads in the sand and ignore the differences.
Sigh. I suppose if you can't tell the difference between a Windows Mobile phone and an iPhone, the difference between "Apple surreptitiously keeping all your whereabouts" and storing that information on your own device and PC is going to be difficult.
That's not true. What you are referring to is probably Palm's hacks to allow direct syncing. Apple provides standard API's to allow third parties to sync with the iTunes library.
You are wrong again. Please stop with the unfounded accusations.
Here is the original question:
If apple did that I wouldn't think it was an innovation, I would think it was a complete waste of time, honestly. I don't consider doing the exact same thing in the exact same way an innovation
It's funny how you're slamming Apple for not inventing anything, when Google BOUGHT Android. I forget that sometimes. But clearly most Android peeps don't realize it at all.
How is having two app stores selling the same apps innovation? No if Apple did it I wouldn't consider it innovation. I have a choice between Wal-mart and Target, yes the prices are different however they are roughly the same things being sold. It is not innovative for one to drop prices, or to have two stores, I shop at Target because I like it there. If Wal-mart never existed Target would still be the same place with the same products and yes products would still go on sale and the prices would be the same.