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Google Claims That Apple Did Reject Google Voice iPhone Application

bjb.butler said:
that's not a good reason at all as to why more Swedish people know about jailbreaking
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I think it is. If you have a mobile network you've paid for and allows 7.2 Mbit/s or more with no or few restrictions, you seek solutions to the problem that Apple/AT&T will not allow full use of the network. When solutions are found, they are spread to other users through friends and internet forums. If you live in the US and don't even have 3G cellular or are not allowed to use it according to your plan, there´s no problem to seek solutions to.

AT&T is starting to deploy 3G in selected states at the end of 2009, we've had fully working 3G cellular networks for several years. If Apple haven't changed their policy in a couple of years, US citizens will start jailbreaking en masse when 3G is available but cannot be used.
 
hanpa said:
I think it is. If you have a mobile network you've paid for and allows 7.2 Mbit/s or more with no or few restrictions, you seek solutions to the problem that Apple/AT&T will not allow full use of the network. When solutions are found, they are spread to other users through friends and internet forums. If you live in the US and don't even have 3G cellular or are not allowed to use it according to your plan, there´s no problem to seek solutions to.

AT&T is starting to deploy 3G in selected states at the end of 2009, we've had fully working 3G cellular networks for several years. If Apple haven't changed their policy in a couple of years, US citizens will start jailbreaking en masse when 3G is available but cannot be used.
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AT$T has had 3G up and running for years... I'm not sure where you are getting your information.
 
bjb.butler said:
oh, you're talking about 7.2... my mistake.

Regardless, what does that have to do with people jailbreaking their phones... I just fail to see how it connects.
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I understand there is an agreement between AT&T and Apple with the aim to avoid congestion in the cellular network. I'm not sure if this is BS or if the network really cannot handle the traffic. We don't have these restrictions here in Sweden and in most other countries.

One of the most common reasons to jailbreak is to trick the app to believe that you're on Wi-Fi instead of 3G cellular. When I do a bandwidth test on my iPhone, I have an effective download rate of about 2-3 Mbit/s on both Wi-Fi and 3G cellular and have a plan that allows me to use 3G cellular for whatever I want. But many apps are crippled to allow only Wi-FI. Examples are Skype calls, network disk or music synchronization (Spotify), high quality YouTube etc. If I jailbreak my device, I can use all this as I should be able to since any restrictions due to AT&T are not valid in my country.
 
hanpa said:
I understand there is an agreement between AT&T and Apple with the aim to avoid congestion in the cellular network. I'm not sure if this is BS or if the network really cannot handle the traffic. We don't have these restrictions here in Sweden and in most other countries.

One of the most common reasons to jailbreak is to trick the app to believe that you're on Wi-Fi instead of 3G cellular. When I do a bandwidth test on my iPhone, I have an effective download rate of about 2-3 Mbit/s on both Wi-Fi and 3G cellular and have a plan that allows me to use 3G cellular for whatever I want. But many apps are crippled to allow only Wi-FI. Examples are Skype calls, network disk or music synchronization (Spotify), high quality YouTube etc. If I jailbreak my device, I can use all this as I should be able to since any restrictions due to AT&T are not valid in my country.
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Are you saying that because you have jailbroken your phone, you can use skype over 3G?
 
amberashby said:
Apple should just approve the App. and all this negative publicity would go away. I doubt many would use the app anyway.
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...you think?

Apple will never win on this one. That being the case, they should do whatever the heck they want.

Google wants a successful free phone platform for their programs: the iphone. To this Apple is saying: in your face... my way or the android way...
 
*LTD* said:
Outside Mac forums and tech sites, barely anyone noticed. And of those that did, even fewer cared. I'm not sure Apple is in any rush to quash what doesn't exist in the first place.
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...I think you are right.

I tested your theory, and no-one in my family or most of my friends know about GV, let alone android or any of the hoopla around Apple and the app store. Most folks simply do not care.

may be folks in this forum represent a very small (but vociferous and opinionated) minority... ? ahhh... who cares...
 
i.mac said:
Google wants a successful free phone platform for their programs: the iphone. To this Apple is saying: in your face... my way or the android way...
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If Google were to sell it on AppStore with Apple's approval, wouldn't Apple be making a nice profit out of it?
 
MorphingDragon said:
Any publicity is good publicity. Specially for Linux devices. :D
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exactly... I want to try a goggle phone now, especially since I can play with the source... :) I am more interested in using android to drive autonomous robots, so I would probably hack the phone to drive a robot 1000 miles away with a simple phone call... and a data plan. Android may be better than iPhone OS after all... :)
 
occamsrazor said:
If Google were to sell it on AppStore with Apple's approval, wouldn't Apple be making a nice profit out of it?
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you may be right, but google does tend to give apps for free. In this case, Google would win regardless, and Apple would have to support the google app with their own money. Not a good situation. This is in part something that a lot of folks are missing: the money trail.

In all cases, something tells me that Apple is the type of smart company that can easily see short profits as hindrance for long term goals.
 
i.mac said:
Google wants a successful free phone platform for their programs: the iphone. To this Apple is saying: in your face... my way or the android way...
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They ported the app to the much more successful Blackberry platform. But no one believes that this appstore nonsense could end up harming the iPhone's growth, so why bother with facts.
 
Google is Evil

Google is evil, so I like someone denying them for ANY reason.

Am I the only one who sees this? If any company is anti-competitive, Google ranks #1 in my mind with Microsoft being #2. An ideal scenario has them obliterating each other and continuing on into obscurity.
 
Evil?

FakeWozniak said:
Google is evil, so I like someone denying them for ANY reason.

Am I the only one who sees this? If any company is anti-competitive, Google ranks #1 in my mind with Microsoft being #2. An ideal scenario has them obliterating each other and continuing on into obscurity.
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You can put Apple on that list too.

I don't want to use iTunes just because I have an iPhone and an iPod; but it would be nice to be able to listen to my purchases on my Creative music player as well, just to name one reason.

I wouldn't go as far as calling a company evil. But I understand the Google reference. So, I think Apple is lacking some integrity too, hence my suggestion.

But denying them for ANY reason - as you say - from a company (purely on personal preference) is SO Apple. Also, it is so bad for consumers. Would you burn down your house just to annoy your neighbour?
 
kernkraft said:
but it would be nice to be able to listen to my purchases on my Creative music player as well, just to name one reason.
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And what's preventing you from doing this ? Unless you mean the fairplay crap we had to put up with for a while, nothing is stopping you from playing your iTunes bought music on any device you like.
 
KnightWRX said:
And what's preventing you from doing this ? Unless you mean the fairplay crap we had to put up with for a while, nothing is stopping you from playing your iTunes bought music on any device you like.
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I think the format is and has been preventing me from using my purchases. And copy protection probably would. It's a bit like booking a trip and receiving air miles. At least, that's how I feel.
 
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