Fair enough but the principle remains: why would any iPhone user want to use an Android device that has the same cutout? If I'm jumping from Apple to go anywhere else, I sure as heck do NOT want that notch as part of the deal.
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Fair enough but the principle remains: why would any iPhone user want to use an Android device that has the same cutout? If I'm jumping from Apple to go anywhere else, I sure as heck do NOT want that notch as part of the deal.
I mean, I'll fully admit that I do not like the notch one bit. But I think what I don't like about it is how much space it actually takes up. The type size of the clock and the icon size could definitely be brought down a bit making the whole top area thinner. But, I'm assuming the size of the cameras and sensors are what ultimately determine the height of the notch.
Where I really dislike the notch is during video. I'd like to be able to take advantage of a big display by making sure the video covers all of the screen without the intrusion of the notch.
I have a Pixel 2 XL that I just got and these bezels are a sweet spot for me. However, seeing as how the the notification bar is a persistent size throughout the phone, I can see a notch being used in Android, as long as it's the same height of the bar. If that means the size of the icons and time need to be made bigger, then I'm not into it.
I guess thats my stance on the notch. Right now (using the iPhone X as an example) its a little TOO pronounced. But as a UI element it makes sense. I personally think, no matter what phone, that top area should always be black and dedicated to the status bar.
That's what you get with this unheard level of innovation.
Especially since this apparently is a software notch, which iOS might also embrace, in order to retain the efforts by apple SW developers that otherwise inadvertently embraced the Notchy notch
(=the proposedly epic design statement coinciding with Joni's return - potentially nullifying that other epic superfluous design statement, the Touching TouchBar that by Phil's advice, we all got addicted to ...)
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It'd be funny if this was the plan all along
Like, Apple can afford to do daft things like a notch because of their general desirability - they can get away with quite a bit without impacting on sales. So knowing how the entire computing and gadget industry seems to operate on a theory of "if Apple does it it must be a good idea", they bait all the Android manufacturers into copying them and then in 2019 do away with the notch
Like, Apple can afford to do daft things like a notch because of their general desirability - they can get away with quite a bit without impacting on sales. So knowing how the entire computing and gadget industry seems to operate on a theory of "if Apple does it it must be a good idea", they bait all the Android manufacturers into copying them and then in 2019 do away with the notch
It would be interesting to know whether Google would have added it if hardware makers hadn't been adding notches first. After all, wasn't native fingerprint support added to Android a year after the first Samsung phone had a fingerprint scanner?
[doublepost=1520528740][/doublepost]This whole situation just goes to show how the smartphone industry works. Apple has an idea, and the competitors go "we can do it better".
What happens if competitors win, and Asus or someone becomes the no 1 smartphone maker so Apple stops bothering with iPhone? Where will the ideas come from?
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They certainly get very upset about Apple using ideas that were released first in Android, which is odd, seeing as they are fine with Android shamelessly using ideas Apple have developed.
Yawn. I can buy an iPhone from $349. Samsung S9 sets me back $929. Apples difference is not in price. It's in quality, customer service, ease of use and compatibility with the Apple Eco-System.
But yeah, you can always buy some crappy plastic phone running Android. Have fun.
Saw as I read through that apple copied the notch idea..... LOL.
Essential launched/announced first because they rushed it out, it has a notch and bottom bezel, apple had this leaked nearly a year before and had been working on it for years. Not to mention literally the only reason the notch exsists is tech limitations when fitting all the sensors, camera, speaker, and more. Android devices aren’t capable of any of that, their notches are due to poor design.
Also either this thread or another that says how it’s no wonder Samsung sells so many galaxy phones..... what? They sell a tiny fraction of what apple sells. Totally stupid person.
Essential launched/announced first because they rushed it out, it has a notch and bottom bezel, apple had this leaked nearly a year before and had been working on it for years. Not to mention literally the only reason the notch exsists is tech limitations when fitting all the sensors, camera, speaker, and more. Android devices aren’t capable of any of that, their notches are due to poor design.
Also either this thread or another that says how it’s no wonder Samsung sells so many galaxy phones..... what? They sell a tiny fraction of what apple sells. Totally stupid person.
where is the "addition"? they are increasing screen/display area. there is no deliberate adding notch here. apple device or android device, i personally find it ugly.
the other way they can get rid of is if they get rid of speaker/camera on the front, and fully go bluetooth for audio. maybe apple will remove face id and bring back touch id. so screen would be without notch. iphone 2019.
I agree with you! If I ever switch it will be running away from rabbit ears. That said, it's good that the operating system supports multiple resolutions, aspect ratios, and the extra rabbit ears. It's ultimately up to developers whether they wan to support it or not.
If you think about it, iOS is giving developers the option, since their apps should support both x and non-x screens
All Android phones starting at $100 are made of the same materials of your iPhone, yet you are comparing the cheapest iPhone to the most expensive Samsung flagship which isn't fair and yet you can still get it for cheaper than $929.
Please go buy and Android phone. Maybe you can also find an Android forum. I won't be reading any more of you posts here. Have a nice day.
Google is helping Android phone manufacturers to add a notch if they wish.
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Sure here you go.
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I was surprised to find that Android P is not supported on 2.5 yr old Nexus devices, this really bugs me.
While on the Apple front, 5s, 6 & 6s are getting all the updates that Apple releases.
While on the Apple front, 5s, 6 & 6s are getting all the updates that Apple releases.
What do you mean? Android is not a person.
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*Essential Phone.
Guess I have to explain (which I thought most people understand), although Android BASED COMPANIES ridicule Apple's design, they still want in on the trend.
You should try immersive mode on your Pixel. You can run an adb command and enable it all the time or per app. I have it enabled for Chrome so the nav bar and status bar remain hidden unless I slide them up or down. Full screen goodness with no icons or bars while browsing. Unless that's not what you're talking about, and just don't like the size of the notification bar.
What I meant was if the status bar becomes bigger then I wouldn't like it (because I assume the notch would need to be a set height depending on the sensors and camera).
But I like the sound of this immersive mode. I've just started getting into adb commands so I'll definitely give this a ****.
This is the last year the 5s will be supported. iOS 11 is the cutoff. That is still good. Most dont keep their phones 5 years.
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Why would they do that? It takes away the space for the notifications bar up top. Android isnt embracing the notch, just supporting the idiots that want to have one for a full screen front display.
As soon as developers figure out how to put the sensors in the screen or for them to work elsewhere , the notch will be history. It was just a ugly, temporary solution.
Android is and has been ahead of iOS in terms of more options and just moving ahead faster so they will most likely figure it out first. Not that i care who figures it out first but it will get figured out.
My guess is Samsung is first and kudos to them for not having a notch. BTW they were also first to use icons on a screen. If not for them, Apple wouldnt be where they are today.
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Hi all!
The iOS Notch and Android P Display Cutouts are a real nightmare for developers. We've faced a lot of issues when porting existing apps and games for iPhone X.
In the process, we've prepared a guide to create adaptive layouts for the iOS Notch or Android P Display Cutouts - hope it also helps some of you guys: https://medium.com/@themobiledev/how-you-survive-the-notch-hell-on-ios-android-9badd9d6b935
The iOS Notch and Android P Display Cutouts are a real nightmare for developers. We've faced a lot of issues when porting existing apps and games for iPhone X.
In the process, we've prepared a guide to create adaptive layouts for the iOS Notch or Android P Display Cutouts - hope it also helps some of you guys: https://medium.com/@themobiledev/how-you-survive-the-notch-hell-on-ios-android-9badd9d6b935