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What Google are doing is like a safety net at iPhone factories. It's not to condone it but act as a safety net in case other companies are foolish enough to follow iPhone X.

Absolutely wrong. Google has a full set of APIs for developers to use for their Apps and added support to Android P for device makers to specify cutouts (notches).

This is not a safety net. It’s full-blown support.
 
Yes, you nailed it. Thanks for playing. :rolleyes:
Care to share what it is? I haven't actually looked, I'm going off of what this article mentioned. It seems to be very important to you and I am clearly very wrong, to the point of offending you, so please, share.
 
It’s a bit more than just “adding developer support at the very basic level.” They've added new APIs for Apps to detect notch size/location and adjust content accordingly. Device manufacturers can specify the notch size so content can render properly. In other words, Google is going “all in” on the notch.




If the notch is such a bad idea and poor UI design (as oh-so-many here claim) then Google should refuse to support it as it conflicts with their intended UI design.

That seems pretty stupid tbh. If the hardware is running their software, good on them for making the necessary changes.

Has Google said the notch is a bad idea?
 
That seems pretty stupid tbh. If the hardware is running their software, good on them for making the necessary changes.

Has Google said the notch is a bad idea?

I don’t know if they previously said it was good or bad. They’re obviously supporting it (fully) so I can’t imagine Google thinks notches are a bad idea. It’ll be funny hearing what people say after bashing Apple over the notch in the iPhone X and then finding Google adding support to me next version of Android.
 
Adding a notch when they don't need it is just so totally stupid.

ASUS is looking like a company of dumbasses. A 26% smaller notch. ASUS crap in stores now has the stench of 2nd-rate crapolla.

Samsung, LG, all trying to look like an iPhone X.

Google making Android apps look like iPhone apps.
 
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This is ridiculous. First Android mocks the notch, and now embraces it. Pathetic.

Reminds me of the signs at a WWDC 12 years ago, "Redmond, start your photocopiers" and Steve Jobs quote "The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste."

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That’s not as comparable when you know it’s Apple who are the ones with no taste for introducing us to the notch in the first place. Yes, I know all the reasons why they did it but they still made it mainstream.
 
It supports the notch. That means all the phones that do have one will be supported. How doesn’t that sense? It doesn’t mean every single Android phone will now have a notch (although there are many clones creeping in), it’s just that there will now be support with their software for those that do.
Lol, yep, I don't think many here understand that the notch is there because you can't have a edge to edge screen phone that has a ear speaker,camera and sensors in the screen. They haven't figured what to do there yet. Therefore they have a notch there for those things. That's why Samsung has a small bezel up top because the notch looks stupid and takes up room for notifications icons and battery pentage.

Google isn't adding a notch to every Android screen. Just support the the ones that do. Good grief people.
 
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Absolutely wrong. Google has a full set of APIs for developers to use for their Apps and added support to Android P for device makers to specify cutouts (notches).

This is not a safety net. It’s full-blown support.

Google: To all copycats, I will support you.
 
I hate this. All it does is give Apple fanatics ammunition and makes it seem like Apple made the right move and was “ahead of the market.” It’s a piss poor design/branding exercise. The whole “you get used to it” is complete bs. It’s consistently there. They crammed/ compromised on the UX/UI to fit the stupid notch there, and convinced people it was revolutionary. Best part is, the people who’ve plunked down 1k$+ defend it like it’s a part of their core identity which perpetuates the myth that it was a good idea. What is even more disappointing is the fact that it’s slower then Touch ID. If you enable “rest finger to unlock” it’s literally 2-3 times faster then Face ID. People go all out of their way to find odd “use case scenarios” of why it’s better. I never really bought into the whole “cognitive dissonance” and “confirmation bias” but I’m a firm believer now. Also, the Apple “access journalism” is damaging to the integrity of the tech-press. Do you really think reviewers getting early access for their YouTube channels and Blogs are gonna call Apple out or be negative in anyway? I have a bridge to sell you....oh and yes I had the X since launch and upgraded to the 8 Plus.
 
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I can't stop laughing.

So Google is actually adding in support for notches in the next version of Android. So much for this being only something the copycats (cheap knockoff companies) do.
The notch is a compromise and I don't know why anyone would deliberately copy it.

That said, I assume that Google adding this feature to Android isn't them "copying" it, but rather adding support in software for OEM's that will inevitably copy the notch, however ridiculous that is.

Now if Google adds a notch with the Pixel 3 instead of just keeping a very small bezel on the top and bottom of the phone, I'm going to lose it.
I don't think they are copying the notch as much as they are having their own screen to the top edge and you need a notch. Notice the notches are smaller and aren't the same as Apples. I don't think many read this article and understands what it is saying.

Who would deliberately copy the notch just to have a notch?
 
The bigger notch actually looks better than the smaller one.
Apple at least got the notch design right.
 
Android and Android phone markers. They all follow Apples lead when it comes to design. There are tons of junk Android phones that all mimic the 6-8 design. Makes perfect sense.
Yeah yeah yeah , Apple Never copied anything from Android,right? Or any other phone? Apple wasn't the first to do a lot of things, like icons on a screen :rolleyes:
 
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The most pathetic thing about that article (considering it's on a site devoted to developers) is that they don't mention anything about Android P being able to work with phones that have a notch (sorry, "cutout"). Yet they go on and write a fair bit of detail about all the other features in Android P.

Nothing like selective reporting.

For anyone interested, here's info direct from Google.

https://developer.android.com/preview/features.html#cutout
 
Eric Schmidt of Google sat on the Apple board while the iPhone was being developed and soaked up a lot of design info. He quit a few months before the iPhone was released. Following the release of the iPhone Google came out with their "iPhone clone". So what a shock :rolleyes: to see Google is still "innotating"...

Nice little conspiracy theory, but it's wrong. The first iPhone was announced June 2007, and Schmidt remained on the Apple board until August 2009.

Also, boards of directors don't generally get access to "a lot of design info." Any product-related information they would receive would be very high level. Their role is to oversee executive management, the annual audit, executive compensation, corporate strategy, regulatory and compliance issues, etc.
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Care to share what it is? I haven't actually looked, I'm going off of what this article mentioned. It seems to be very important to you and I am clearly very wrong, to the point of offending you, so please, share.


Keep in mind that Google always keeps some consumer-oriented features under wraps until their Google I/O conference. All the features currently discussed and available in the Alpha preview of Android P are developer-oriented, which makes sense as developers have to prepare their apps to run on Android P.

At Google I/O we'll get a better sense of the headline features from a consumer perspective. That's where they will do a deeper dive on Android P, including previewing application changes which will be timed to arrive at the same time Android P leaves beta.
 
This is ridiculous. First Android mocks the notch, and now embraces it. Pathetic.

Reminds me of the signs at a WWDC 12 years ago, "Redmond, start your photocopiers" and Steve Jobs quote "The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste."

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Samsung mocked the notch, not Google.
 
They forgot it was necessary due to the hardware not to the software, it will be gone as soon as it can be....... so dumb Google. o_O

Google's dumb? They are preparing Android to support hardware OEMs who are already in the process of designing hardware that necessitates a notch. Dumb, indeed.
 
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