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ah yes, this annoyed me... why do they have to copy Apple's colours? There was nothing wrong with the colours they were using.

Some of these colors remind me of the earth tones that were a fad with automobiles during half of the 1980s.

Years later, those colors date those automobiles, and not in a kind way.

Ditto for bright pop colors.

Good thing that few handheld electronics products are used for more than a few years :)
 
Samsung may have rushed into creating a large display phone in a rush, but their apps didn't really benefit for the larger display. Most were just zoomed in to the larger resolution. On the other hand, Apple saw the demand for larger displays increased, and to not be stubborn and adapt to the new demand, they took measures startingwith iOS 7 for new and updated apps to benefit of a future larger display, which has now become a reality.
That's why now apps really take advantage to the larger displays by taking advantage of it, not by just simply doing a cheap zoom in.


Do you really know how ignorant about how Android works is your post?

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Ah, so no, the technology still doesn't exist
 
So Apple sells more laptops than Toshiba, thus Macs beat Windows! Yay!

And what does this have to do with smart phones. Nice reach.

RAM is only a part of mobile device power consumption. The SoC uses a greater proportion of power than RAM, and SoC efficiency is Apple's forte. They could at least match Android RAM amounts while beating them at the thin game.

Geeze. You are discounting the RAM because the SoC uses a greater portion of the power then RAM. Include more RAM and the SoC will need even more power to drive it.

They could at least match Android RAM amounts while beating them at the thin game.

I am surprised that you didn't say "They could have at least match Android quad core xyzGhz while beating them at the thin game". Want specs go for Android. It has not been proven that the Android specs are needed on an iPhone. And yes I already know the arguments about more RAM in a smart phone, which also are pure speculation.
 
What I want to see is a Tegra K1 based Surface RT. I am not using the x86 Surface Pro but the RT one. I live and die using OneNote and Office 365.
 

Just to be clear, since people like you like to misunderstand. I was talking about flagship phones and standard options, not some limited edition in pimp gold etc. - and hopefully you're not stupid enough to assume that I said that "Apple invented gold phones". Either way, ever since the iphone 5S was introduced worldwide with gold as standard option, the competition decided to discover champagne/gold as a standard option too, but you can pretend to be oblivious and say "but but but...", doesn't change reality.
 
Just to be clear, since people like you like to misunderstand. I was talking about flagship phones and standard options, not some limited edition in pimp gold etc. - and hopefully you're not stupid enough to assume that I said that "Apple invented gold phones". Either way, ever since the iphone 5S was introduced worldwide with gold as standard option, the competition decided to discover champagne/gold as a standard option too, but you can pretend to be oblivious and say "but but but...", doesn't change reality.

As far as im aware, the Samsung Galaxy S4 was a flagship device, and as pointed out by the link, was announced and released prior to the iPhone 5S.

Little bit more time reading, a little less with the attitude.
 
Do you really know how ignorant about how Android works is your post?
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All I know is that I have given Android a chance for a very long period time (from the time the first iPhone was released up until the release of the iPhone 5s) and to break my early excitement, it turned out to be the biggest, most unreliable piece of crap I have ever seen. I just happened to get stuck with it for several years, while waiting for T-Mobile to start supporting the iPhone.

I want my portable device to work when I need it to work, not cause more trouble. And most apps I have seen on android Tablets so far look like zoomed in phone apps.

And many people tell me the same thing about Android. So I don't get your point...
 
Has anybody seen figures for battery life and power consumption on TK1?






It looks to match or beat A8 in single thread and multi thread, but at what cost? This is a 28nm HKMG @ TSMC vs 20nm LPP TSMC (A8). Power consumption is not going to be good.



And i agree, if you want specs go to android. However, I like to know what kind of hardware Apple is using. Often, Apple actually produces better tech than the best android phones, and they aren't even trying to win that game.

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All I know is that I have given Android a chance for a very long period time (from the time the first iPhone was released up until the release of the iPhone 5s) and to break my early excitement, it turned out to be the biggest, most unreliable piece of crap I have ever seen. I just happened to get stuck with it for several years, while waiting for T-Mobile to start supporting the iPhone.

I want my portable device to work when I need it to work, not cause more trouble. And most apps I have seen on android Tablets so far look like zoomed in phone apps.

And many people tell me the same thing about Android. So I don't get your point...

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I felt exactly like this. I bought the Galaxy S4 and I put time into getting good ROMs and I got everything there was to get out of android. And it still was buggy, slow, and offered little that a Jailbroken 5s cant do.
 
All I know is that I have given Android a chance for a very long period time (from the time the first iPhone was released up until the release of the iPhone 5s) and to break my early excitement, it turned out to be the biggest, most unreliable piece of crap I have ever seen. I just happened to get stuck with it for several years, while waiting for T-Mobile to start supporting the iPhone.

I want my portable device to work when I need it to work, not cause more trouble. And most apps I have seen on android Tablets so far look like zoomed in phone apps.

And many people tell me the same thing about Android. So I don't get your point...

First you write something wrong about how apps work in Android and now you write a totally unrelated post about your "experience" with Android.

Yap you're have used a lot Android, your deep knowledge shows that.
 
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First you write something wrong about how apps work in Android and now you write a totally unrelated post about your "experience" with Android.

[BOLD]Tap, you're gave used a la tarda Android, your deep knowledge prices that.[/BOLD]

Please reply when you are sober. I have no clue what you said in your last sentence. :D

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Has anybody seen figures for battery life and power consumption on TK1?






It looks to match or beat A8 in single thread and multi thread, but at what cost? This is a 28nm HKMG @ TSMC vs 20nm LPP TSMC (A8). Power consumption is not going to be good.



And i agree, if you want specs go to android. However, I like to know what kind of hardware Apple is using. Often, Apple actually produces better tech than the best android phones, and they aren't even trying to win that game.

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I felt exactly like this. I bought the Galaxy S4 and I put time into getting good ROMs and I got everything there was to get out of android. And it still was buggy, slow, and offered little that a Jailbroken 5s cant do.

I tried several ROMS from XDA Developers, did several hacks for specific functionality, wasted countless hours trying to make it work properly; nothing. Just problem after problem. It would work well for a few days, then it would start again. I'm not going back to it ever. It's just cheap Public Domain crap.
 
You really need to learn how language works. Saying "low-end iPhone 6" in the context of iPhones means the lowest model iPhone 6, as compared to other iPhones. So, yes, the 16GB iPhone 6 is the Low-End iPhone 6.

No, that is not context. There is no such thing as a low-end iPhone 6. I am simply saying you get more for your money, which is quite obvious since it's an Apple product.

The A8 has the fastest single cote performance (still), the Nexus GPU is too slow for its screen. The resolution 493 Pentile, so probably equivalent ot 380-390 LCD (the Iphone screen is good in several other ways than resolution too).

The A8 is probably the best mobile SoC on the market, I agree 100% with that. I also agree that the iPhone 6 has the best screen on the market, despite PPI/resolution. The GPU is fine on the Nexus 6, it will perform fantastically.

Trust me guys, I am not bashing the iPhone in any regard. I am actually going to be getting one despite getting bashed from the majority of my friends. I like the ecosystem and what Apple is doing. I love Continuity, it's a great feature.
 
N6 Phone - meh, too expensive for a Google phone... and 6+ is superior.
N6 Tablet - meh, another copy of Mini. I will get Mini 3 instead which is a better tablet.
NMP - meh, I will stick with my AppleTV.

You seem to like using the word "meh" a lot. It kind of makes you sound like a sheep, but instead of saying Bah, you say meh.

I've always hated that word, I think it's a dumb word to use, it almost makes you sound like an animal.

You might want to rethink the usage of that word. just a suggestion.

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I love Continuity, it's a great feature.

Yes, I agree that Continuity has some great aspects of it. I've been trying some of the features, but my biggest gripe is with Bluetooth and the constant connecting, disconnecting, pairing, etc.

They have to figure out how to make Bluetooth, or whatever wireless connection they use work better. I had my iPhone 6 about 2 feet from my computer trying to pair the two and it says my iPhone is out of range. That's a little frustrating. I'm hoping 8.1 makes it work better in addition to the additional features. Working reliably is my main concern.
 
Google makes phones that reviewers love and the general public does not buy.

Actually Google doesn't make phones, they used to have LG or Samsung design and mfg the things, now since they bought Motorola, they are making the Nexus 6 phone.

But I think it's more of Google purposely not making that many of them, I read that Google doesn't want to infringe on the Android OEMs too much, plus I honestly don't think Google makes all that much money on these things and they are really meant more for Developers to use since it's more of a baseline Android phone rather than having extra things that the OEMs add to make theirs unique.
 
N6 Tablet - meh, another copy of Mini. I will get Mini 3 instead which is a better tablet.

Last I checked, the n6 tablet was an update on the nexus 7 which dates back to 2012. Before there was an iPad mini. How is it a copy of the mini?
 
You might want to rethink the usage of that word. just a suggestion.

Actually no, you are missing the point here. It's a well placed 'meh' in relation to the topic discussed.

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Last I checked, the n6 tablet was an update on the nexus 7 which dates back to 2012. Before there was an iPad mini. How is it a copy of the mini?

See above....
 
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For what. You didn't write anything of value in response.

Actually no, you are missing the point here. It's a well placed 'meh' in relation to the topic discussed.

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See above....
 
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how would you know....oh wait....you don't.

Because I've been watching announcements like this for 20 years. Generally, the new technologies that end up in real products, you don't even hear about until it's in a product. There are followups when a battery technology announcement fails to deliver but I found a couple. Since this one requires nanotubes which are unproven in a manufacturing environment, my expectation for failure is pretty high.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news...research-promising-electrode-hasnt-panned-out

http://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tec...most-promising-next-generation-battery/85480/
 
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LOL. Ok. I guess you like to redefine words for your own use. I hope those with whom you regularly converse know what you're saying.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/semantics?s=t

I don't consider low-end to be paired with price. So, again, not context. Context can not be taken as universal, as others will read into it differently.

Thank you for linking to semantics...I had no idea what that was!
 
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