Google Debuts Nexus 6 Phone, Nexus 9 Tablet, and Nexus Media Player

[cfedu]

You miss his point.

Android pushes specs. Apple pushes experience.

The best example of this was the original iPod vs MP3 players..

MP3 players: the device has 256 Mb of space.
iPOD: 1000 songs in your pocket.

Today:
Google: quadcore snapdragon.
Apple: fastest and most fluid iPhone ever.


Ask your mother or another layperson what resonates most to them.

So true, I loved my iPod mini 1000 songs!!! I now have a MacBook air 120,000 songs SSD. Best computer I have ever had!

 

[rsocal]

Lag???

How do u explain many users complaining about lag on the 6 plus? Nice try buddy, so much for your fastest and most fluid phone ever.

My iPhone 6+ has no lag at all, it appears you do not have one, but you can complain about something you read about and, have no first hand knowledge?

Don't take everything you hear or read, as gospel! Speak with your own true experience or, at least lie to us and tell us you actually own one, like the people your speaking for.

I have 2 kids, myself & my wife on iPhone 6+'s and they seem to have no lag and very fluid! This is after actually using them, not reading ********!!!

Nice try "buddy"!

 

[cfedu]

Uh...what? There is no "low-end iPhone 6". They all have the same internals, minus memory and screen. The processor is most likely faster in the Nexus 6 (I haven't seen many benchmarks on the 805, but it is an absolute screamer). The resolution is higher (PPI). The memory is more (but that's because it has to be).

So what is low-end about this phone?

And the battery, Camera, CPU clock speed.

 

[Mousse]

Looks like a Iphone buster on paper, but the price tag is a no-go.

Yeah, the price tag is hefty. But the deal breaker for me is the ridiculous near 6" display. Dagnabbit, Google. I waited 3 months for the Nexus 6 only to find the rumors of Shamu being true. I'm not NBA/NFL sized, I'm average 'Merican size (same as European size, except a bit thicker). Now I'm hoping for a possible a Nexus 5 mk II, Nexus 6 specs sporting a 5" display.

 

[cfedu]

Yeah, the price tag is hefty. But the deal breaker for me is the ridiculous near 6" display. Dagnabbit, Google. I waited 3 months for the Nexus 6 only to find the rumors of Shamu being true. I'm not NBA/NFL sized, I'm average 'Merican size (same as European size, except a bit thicker). Now I'm hoping for a possible a Nexus 5 mk II, Nexus 6 specs sporting a 5" display.

This or pick up Nexus 6 if it has a massive price drop on the used market. I just can't justify spending $865(Canadian price after tax)$ for a any phone!!!

 

[PPFee]

umm wtf...Nexus Phones are supposed to be cheap..."the best off contract phone/price" type of stuff...wtf are they doing

 

[BigInDallas]

You miss his point.

Android pushes specs. Apple pushes experience.

The best example of this was the original iPod vs MP3 players..

MP3 players: the device has 256 Mb of space.
iPOD: 1000 songs in your pocket.

Today:
Google: quadcore snapdragon.
Apple: fastest and most fluid iPhone ever.


Ask your mother or another layperson what resonates most to them.

Dont own a mp3 player or ipod. My g3 streams Pandora fine. G3 is smooth and flawless for me. Never noticed any lag. Besides the iOS is not smooth yet as many people here are talking about. Everyone is waiting for 8.1. Shouldnt that have been the GM? Not the mess Apple releashed to the public.

I had an iPhone 5 and it was great. I will get the 6s+ when it comes out most likely. I never had a problem with my 5 until ios 7 and then crap battery life. Im sorry turning off every feature that makes it a smart phone for better battery life is a crap idea. Might as well use a flip phone.

I not anti Apple or anti Android. Have used both and both are great.


Mom has an android phone. She loves it, doesnt want an iPhone.

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3GB of ram because Android needs it to equal IOS on 1G. That's fact Jack.

So, basically, you got a bigger screen. Bravo for that. Otherwise, no so fantastic.

Dont need extra RAM ask all the people having refresh issues with browers.

 

[AppleHater]

Indeed. However, it should be noted that Apple doesn't push specs because quite often they don't measure up to the most recent devices. Note I am not saying that is good or bad because it's about experience. But you're not going to advertise "older" specs as a differentiation.

That's partially true. Yes they have some older specs in them for whatever reasons including trying to save some pennies. But, they check the balance of the experience and upgrade parts that makes the biggest difference.

I use retina MBP and the high rez screen with Super fast SSD improve my user experience more so than 20% faster CPU. It's all about balance and cutting corners when you can,

 

[PPFee]

The throttling is severe. You can wave it off IF YOU LIKE, but that's a fact.

suddenly i am interested in this...any good articles on the throttling issue?

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The nexus 4 was 4.7"
The nexus 5 was actually 4.95

I think regardless of screen size, the nexus phone of late would have been the 6

Yes i always understood it that the Tablets were name named for screen size, the phones were trending towards a "generational numbering" scheme

 

[Mousse]

This or pick up Nexus 6 if it has a massive price drop on the used market. I just can't justify spending $865(Canadian price after tax)$ for a any phone!!!

The thing is, I don't want the 6" "Shamu" phablet, I want a 5" phone. Price isn't the main issue with me. If I were to buy a phone today, it would be the HTC One Google Play Edition ($700). But I want to see if Google will come out with a 5" phone to replace the Nexus 5.

There comes a point where bigger is too big. For me Shamu and any other phone over 5" crossed that line. I'm sure there are plenty who would welcome an XL phone. They're available because someone wants them. I'm not one.

 

[Piggie]

Why should they when 90% of the users are using headphones

Really?

I'd love to see the survey you have done.
Please post it here for us all to view.

So 90% of people who are using iPads are wearing headphones.

Amazing. Yes please I'm sure we'd all love to see the survey, where it was carried out and what sample size you used. A few thousand people perhaps from a few different areas of the country?

Or perhaps you are just talking about yourself?

 

[macduke]

Totally off topic: Nice.

I’m wearing Oakley Servos

Those also have a nice, clean design. I just wish the logo didn't stand out so much. Have you seen the new Crosslink? You can easily swap out the stems with different colors and on another model the lenses with sunglasses. I just wish it had a little bit less sporty design. I'd totally buy something that matches the aesthetics of the Deringer and allows you to easily swap in prescription sunglass lenses. Lately I've been eying the Chamfer. I like Oakley's design because on certain models it's about as close as I can get (within a reasonable budget) to glasses that Apple would design.

 

[cdmoore74]

My iPhone 6+ has no lag at all, it appears you do not have one, but you can complain about something you read about and, have no first hand knowledge?

Don't take everything you hear or read, as gospel! Speak with your own true experience or, at least lie to us and tell us you actually own one, like the people your speaking for.

I have 2 kids, myself & my wife on iPhone 6+'s and they seem to have no lag and very fluid! This is after actually using them, not reading ********!!!

Nice try "buddy"!

I noticed lag on the iPhone 6 before I returned it. It's not all the time but it does pop up. So I can't say it's 100% lag free. Sorry; just not the case. Now I did not notice lag in iOS; just in a game or 2.
Some people just play with their phones harder than others. It's also the reason why I noticed many bugs and a complete system crash for the week I had it. That's why I ultimately returned the phone. Could not pay such a premium price ($849 for the 128GB model) for a less than stellar experience. The 32GB Nexus 6 is a full $200 cheaper and the 32GB Note 4 with SD card is $150 cheaper. And lots not compare it to the $949 iPhone 6 plus.

 

[Ballis]

Plex just announced support for the Nexus Player. Apple doesn't have an Apple TV App Store. What a missed opportunity...

 

[peterdevries]

How do u explain many users complaining about lag on the 6 plus? Nice try buddy, so much for your fastest and most fluid phone ever.

I am not your buddy. It would pay to learn to read a post and understand what someone is saying. I am not even going to point out where you were wrong.

 

[patseguin]

I wish they updated the Nexus 7. I own everything Apple including an iPad Air and I think the Nexus 7 was the best mini tablet ever. IMHO, Android doesn't have the app quality of iOS and it's certainly not the greatest music/video player but for reading books, email, that kind of stuff I loved that tablet.

 

[samcraig]

Really?

I'd love to see the survey you have done.
Please post it here for us all to view.

So 90% of people who are using iPads are wearing headphones.

Amazing. Yes please I'm sure we'd all love to see the survey, where it was carried out and what sample size you used. A few thousand people perhaps from a few different areas of the country?

Or perhaps you are just talking about yourself?

90% of his imaginary friends!!!

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Plex just announced support for the Nexus Player. Apple doesn't have an Apple TV App Store. What a missed opportunity...

Been saying this for years. I have plex on my jailbroken ATV2. However as I wrote earlier, my ATV now is only used for rentals. I use the Roku and Chromecast now.

I don't think people "need" Apple to crack the TV thing a far as content deals. I think they would much prefer an overhauled UI and app store. No need to boil the ocean.

 

[PalindromeB0B]

Batteries not included

the Nexus Player, an Apple TV-style set-top box that comes equipped with a gamepad (sold separately)

So by "comes equipped with" you mean that it doesn't...

 

[dvoros]

sweet compared to Apple

I have been waiting for the new iPhone 6 which I ordered on Sept. 14th. I called Verizon and they said that instead of an October delivery date that its now going to be in November. Meanwhile, Apple announces that it will start selling the phone in additional countries without having fulfilled the prepaid orders first. That sucks and Apple Sucks! The Nexus looks better and better to me.

 

[Yaboze]

I walked into an Apple store on 10/3 and got a space gray iPhone 6 with 128GB on Verizon. They didn't have any +'s.

The new Note is getting good reviews, that might be a better option than a Nexus 6.

 

[Rideherhard]

I'm sure this has been said already but wow that sure looks like an Apple ad...

 

[fortysomegeek]

Plex just announced support for the Nexus Player. Apple doesn't have an Apple TV App Store. What a missed opportunity...

If you want Plex, I suggest the FireTV. THe Nexus Player doesn't have optical out nor does it have ethernet. You'll be dealing with spotty playback over wifi.
Also the Nexus Player only has 8GB of onboard storage whereas the FireTV can use USB attached storage. 8GB isn't enough. Install Asphalt 8, Beach Buggy, Riptide, and a 3-4 more smaller kids games, and it it will be full.

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But those are wide-arse cores on the A8, and the A8 only romps Qualcomm or Nvidia SoCs on single threaded tasks. Get Lollipop rockin' on a 64 bit quad-core and it'll probably be even or a little ahead of the A8 on multithreaded tasks. But not for long...

The Nexus 9 is a dual core Denver 64 bit.

The 32-bit K1 on on the Shield is a quad core but on the Nexus 9, it is dual-core.

Strange how things are going back in circles. 4:3 display. A use of Dual Core 64 bit SoC instead of a quad-core. This just seems to validate Apple's engineering decisions of the past few years.

The Nexus 9 also only has 2GB when most Apple Critics stating 4GB was an absolute requirement. When the iPad Air 2 is released, both the new iPad and Nexus 9 will be comparable in terms of specs. .... Unless Apple comes out with a better display which leap-frogs everybody else.

Interesting how competition works.

 

[H2SO4]

I say: wow, a streamer to attach to the lcd/plasma. If only they had presented this in 2008-2009 it would be ultra cool... Now its just another copycat like the new Google tablets that may feel, look and presents itselve as an Ipad a-like tablet with one flaw and one flaw only: Android, it may have 2GB inside, it may run at 2GHz or higher. Its the same bs as Windows pc's; The OS is way too big and clumsy to run. As again the tests point out. With a remote control lacking the whatever dozens of buttons Google always had the nerve to present. But this time a remote with just a few buttons and a wheel that seems to be easy to hold in your hand. And then the tablets come in 3 color options: grey, alu and golden? It has two camera's??? one in the rear with higher resolution and one for the front with lower resolution. And the material of the casing: aluminium brushed ?? How do they come up with that huh? It seems also a alu unibody to me besides the almost bezel free glass.... Its a brilliant design allover with unique favorable options. .. Now also get rid of the toxins and pcb's quit Google is using in this new plastic soup to be. (an idea everybody may steal from Apple but no one seems to care about) A large battery that may last the day. But because it is really slow compared to lets say an Ipad Air. It slows your work down so you just can actually do more with an IOS device in a the same time. ps Iphone 4S with ios8 works on my old 4s. The idea of using magnets to attach things like a keyboard to it. Perhaps they will come out with a cover that smart, that it opens the device when the cover opens, and put it back to sleep when the cover is closed. Boy that would be the day. Who invents those things, how do you come up with all that smart and handy idea's in one device? Or am I comparing Apple with Pears? The price would suggest Nexus 16GB model will cost $399, 32GB will cost $479, and an LTE-enabled 32GB model will cost $599.... so now a higher price will be the unique selling point for Google's electronic waste?

Paragraphs?

 

[rGiskard]

You forgot to mention that those studies are NOT DONE WITH LCD'S or AMOLED displays. They're done with high contrast printed material under perfect lighting with people with similar good eyesight. Tha'ts one hell of a difference since no LCD or AMOLED display is comparable to that at all.

So, it is not clear at all that we'd see much of difference consistently over 400 if you could actually get the same device with both a 400ppi and 450ppi of the same type to test with and perform blind testing.

The only place something like that could show would be in black on white text, mostly seen in reading books, some web pages and sometimes the UI.

For the high contrast to exist, the screen should be pristine, right out of the factory, the angle of view straight on with no reflection off the screen and a high level of light from the display (so, observed in good light, but not outside).

As soon as any of these conditions are not met, you cannot have maximum contrast and it is very unlikely you could see the difference even with eagle eyes.

Ideally, compared phones should have identical light coming off the display (checked with a light meter), the same gamut and be calibrated the same, the same display technology and the same display construction (laminated versus not laminated). Often, it is preference for other aspects of a display which influenced how on display resolution is perceived as better. If they know one display has a higher resolution than the other, this alone can influence perception regardless of the actual performance of the display.

All that put together means that there may be a few situations with a select group of people were 450 is very slightly for them. But, even for them, it would be a small part of their overall user experience.

Real life is not the lab, and screens are not printed pages. Still a lot easier to read text off a printed page than a lcd screen.

You must have forgot to follow the link, because it dealt directly with LCD and OLED displays:

Smartphones: If you hold a 450 ppi Smartphone up really close (about 7.5 inches) you’ll be able to see all of the image detail if you have 20/20 Vision, but to resolve even higher ppi you would have to hold it even closer, which is not likely in general use. So based on 20/20 visual acuity alone the practical upper limit for a Smartphone is about 450 ppi. But there are a number of other advantages for moving up much higher than 450 ppi that we will discuss in the Smartphones section below.

As for print, some can benefit from over 700 dpi, lol.

Well you got your ideal comparison right in the 6 v 6+ iPhones. Most people can see the difference in pixel density in terms of sharpness. When I was at an Apple Store I asked a few random people and every one could detect the difference in pixel density, even if they didn't know it was the source of the sharpness difference. Don't try to weasel out of it by saying it's because the 6+ display is bigger - people aren't that stupid.

Still a lot easier to read text off a printed page than a lcd screen.

Sure, if the lighting is just right, lol. Anyways, only a small part of the population has the eyesight to see how great print is, right? So just run it off at 600 dpi and if anyone complains they must be a freak with eagle eyes.

The goal should be LCD/OLED displays that are indistinguishable from optimally-lighted print. Pixel density is one of many factors needed to achieve this goal.

 

[Bahroo]

The throttling is severe. You can wave it off IF YOU LIKE, but that's a fact.

You got this information from Anandtech right? That's where I saw this too.