Do no evil —> do not more than a little bit of evil.
-> do evil, hide it well and then pay a nominal fine if caught
Do no evil —> do not more than a little bit of evil.
Here's a question:
If Google is allowed to "negotiate" with the Feds over how big their fine will be, why can't I negotiate with the CHP over how big my fine will be when I get a speeding ticket?
Edit: Ack! Power1080 beat me to it!![]()
"Google Inc. (GOOG) is negotiating with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission over how big a fine it will have to pay"
Anyone else find this the most F'ed up part? That they can negotiate there fine.
They do, Android users are ok with selling their souls to Google though![]()
This smacks of retroactive enforcement. FTC should give Google a demand letter not a fine. Any fine collected should be paid to Apple as a down payment in civil damages, not absorbed by the government.
What nwcs said. Net collected fines could be added to dividends.
Rocketman
If a burglar finds an open door, it's still illegal for him to steal. Apple may have been negligent, but Google performed the illegal act, plain and simple.
Yes. the burglar has commited a crime. But the landlord can still be sued for negligence. Both have consequences. I'm not suggesting Apple is/was negligent. I'm just saying that both parties COULD be "guilty"
I thought Google does no evil, and it's apples fault that they left this exploit open?
This is the modern world, Facebook will end up the same one day. I use Googlemail like many no doubt, what other free great imap services are there? Hotmail isn't imap.
I am annoyed though at the fact I never knew they did this! But it's the price you pay for using the internet, still it is rather bad.
Can you go into your Hotmail account and setup imap?
Google shouldn't have exploited, that is standard ethics (not far removed from the newspaper phone hacking, just not done)...
Apple should have been notified of the exploit so that it could be patched... If Google chose not to inform Apple and exploited the vulnerability, then that makes them no better than the hackers that receive jail terms and those that authorised the exploit at Google should also be facing jail terms and Google's code of practice under scruitiny.
If Apple failed to even attempt to patch the issue after being informed (within a reasonable time) then Apple should be held accountable.
So lets say the lock on my door is rusty and old...
By your logic it's my fault if somebody gets in my home rape and murder my family Death Wish style?
Google decided on getting by the USER's wish not to be tracked, for their own gain, they should be punished.
Go ahead and fine Google, but at what point do you say that Apple should be held accountable as well? I kind of see this as a lock manufacturer (Apple) making a sub-standard lock (Safari) and selling it to customers. An intruder (Google) breaks in to the customer's house by easily busting the sub-standard lock.
...but I'm not against holding Apple to the fire for being lax in security.
It's easy to make claims like this with no proof on the internet, but do you have any examples of someone successfully winning a case against their landlord for something like this? Or do you just mean i can literally sue my landlord? If so i can sue anyone for anything. Whether the case has any merit is a different story.
Please provide a real world example if you can
Still a drop in the bucket.
Fines levied by the government should be so large that no one would even joke about doing something similar.
I thought Google does no evil, and it's apples fault that they left this exploit open?
I'd have to say your blanket faith in Google needs a reality check. Would someone that's not evil try to get in to your locked house from the back window you accidentally forgot to close?
And yes that would your mistake, but obviously not justification for someone to break-in.