Despite even running my own embedded Linux (T2) I'm using Safari mostly 98% of my time now, ... why bother with Chrome or Firefox on OSX when Safari just works, is snappy, and so nicely integrated, ... I do not even want other browsers to mess (clutter) my system, ...
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Google Forking WebKit to Create New Web Rendering Engine for Chrome
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Despite even running my own embedded Linux (T2) I'm using Safari mostly 98% of my time now, ... why bother with Chrome or Firefox on OSX when Safari just works, is snappy, and so nicely integrated, ... I do not even want other browsers to mess (clutter) my system, ...
Too bad Firefox is the worst browser in terms of performance, because if it was't that would be the only browser I'd use. It runs circles around Safari or Chrome with its addons and expandability.
This is far too simplistic a view, there is a huge user base using safari and IE so you have to develop for them or you loose huge numbers of potential users. The utopia where everything is open and interoperable is not the current reality that we have to work with so saying IE and Safari are irrelevant is something that no developer can afford to do.
And there goes everything compelling about using Chrome. Guess I'll be using Safari on Windows in addition to on OS X and iOS - too bad this means Android will likely lose WebKit based browsers... At least I never used them as my personal devices.
I was just saying that instead of creating a split between Apple and Oracle/Google, Apple should join them and go with Blink. This way, all the webkit/blink stuff can be handled by Google and Apple will have some resources to relocate to other projects.
And that's the whole point - your privacy is violated _without_ Google knowing who you are. They don't need to know. Decisions are made that affect you, based on knowledge about you. Nobody cares who you are. They care about what you do, and that information affects you.
At some point, you could be refused a job interview, you might pay more for goods or service, you might not be able to get a loan, you might not be able to get on a flight, and all this without anyone knowing who you actually are.
That's for example why Apple banned the use of UDIDs (Universal Device Identifiers) in iOS apps - because it allowed companies to tie together information about an individual. They still don't know who you are, but information is gathered about you that affects you.
They are able to. Research has already shown you need surprisingly little information to be able to track that information to an actual person, address etc. Google more than enough information to be able to pin-point that data to an actual person for the majority of people browsing the web, even if you never logged into any Google service, block ads and 3rd party cookies, etc.
I use Chrome on my Windows box, my MacBook aswell as my iPhone and iPad ...
I basically don't care
Amen. I use them all too. Chrome on Mac and windows can get a little resource-heavy, so occasionally I switch to Safari.
And again I ask, where does Oracle play into this at all? Other than the fact they're suing Google over Android Oracle has nothing to do with Google or Opera's products. Heck, Chrome on Mac doesn't even support Java. At all.
Mac user != mac-only user
My main Computer is a Windows PC, my Notebook a Macbook pro, and I am currently writing this on my iPad. In Google Chrome...
This worries me. I can't help but think that Google's involvement with WebKit is probably a big reason why Safari is such a great browser. I'm not so sure Apple could have built such a good engine alone, and looking at the commits graph seems to back that up.
I'd probably like to see Apple follow Google on their new fork, provided it does not run contrary to Apple's goals. Surely using the same engine as internet behemoth Google makes a whole lot of sense if you're making products that need to excel at internet.
I'd probably like to see Apple follow Google on their new fork, provided it does not run contrary to Apple's goals. Surely using the same engine as internet behemoth Google makes a whole lot of sense if you're making products that need to excel at internet.
My answer was to the claim that, since Safari doesn't exist on Windows, you shouldn't use it, which is a ridiculous assumption. I use Windows PCs just as the next guy, that doesn't mean I should use Chrome on Mac.
Oracle has announced that, while they were going with webkit, they will be going with the new Blink engine. I know they are a relatively small player in the browser world, they where going to be the third biggest webkit user behind Apple and Google. Them going with Blink, made me think that Apple should too, and the fork will be effectively gone.
If we listen to many on this forum you have nothing to worry about. Even though Google has had many more commits the last years, accordning to them all/most of the quality work has been done by Apple. Google have probably just chipped in many insignificant commits just to look good in the statistics like the one in this article.
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Yes, and other trojans/sniffers so that they can collect usernames, passwords and credit card numbers that they can sell on the black market. Google is run by the devil...
While its sad to see WebKit being forked, if it makes Blink makes WebKit better then thats only good?
It is not in Google's interest to start adding non standard HTML etc, so I think there's little chance in Blink spawning IE <=8 -Like browsers. There will be too much of a backlash.
The linked article says Google is committed to open standards so why should we immediately think otherwise?
Its all open source, so anyone can review the code.
It is not in Google's interest to start adding non standard HTML etc, so I think there's little chance in Blink spawning IE <=8 -Like browsers. There will be too much of a backlash.
The linked article says Google is committed to open standards so why should we immediately think otherwise?
Its all open source, so anyone can review the code.
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With Opera adopting Webkit recently, I figured this would be the new standard that would minimize the fragmentation.
I guess Google wants to keep things similar to their Android OS
Opera just said that is going to change to Blink.
My point is that Google will go their own way for certain functionalities and their is no guarantees that they will be for web standards (like HTML 5 is today).
Everything you do. Do a google search on some obscure topic like a medical condition. Then check you email in a few hours or some times a day or two and you will get a very specific email related in some way to your search in most cases. I have seen this happen in my non gmail account and it is disturbing.