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Google Home Reviews: Handsome Design Not Enough to Outweigh 'Rough Around the Edges' Feel
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Knowing Google, they will dump this in about 6 months.
I prefer a company that mines your data to be somewhat bi-partisan. Not use their services, infrastructure, and databases to help a specific candidate. That to me is not okay.
Although I agree that google has better voice assistant, by a good margin, but not huge.
LOL! Thats too funny, yet so true.
I'm surprised G-Mail has lasted as long as it has. LOL
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So what do you this then? http://fortune.com/2016/07/29/apple-cook-hillary-clinton/
LOL! Thats too funny, yet so true.
I'm surprised G-Mail has lasted as long as it has. LOL
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So what do you this then? http://fortune.com/2016/07/29/apple-cook-hillary-clinton/
Apple isn't using customers information or using its infrastructure to push ahead a candidate. This is clearly a fundraiser sponsored by Cook that's separate from Apple.
Apple needs to stay out of this category... Airplay is horrible. And I prefer my Sonos anyways.
HAH!!! Riiiiight. All the cash/celebrity status from Tim didn't come from being the CEO of Apple at all? /s
Keep tricking yourself into believing that friend.
One is a fundraiserHAH!!! Riiiiight. All the cash/celebrity status from Tim didn't come from being the CEO of Apple at all? /s
Keep tricking yourself into believing that friend.
The other is using googles data, services, and customer information and search manipulation to further specific candidate
You're right, someone's being tricked alright.
Apple pretty has been. Look at Siri after they acquired it. Look at demos of ViV. There's no reason with Apple's money and resources that Siri should be so "primitive"
Avoiding Google wouldn't prevent either of those things.
Your only choice is to get off the internet right now. And never buy anything except with cash that you've laundered so the source cannot be traced back to you.
And never use your real name or phone number or address, anywhere. Or drive your car without your license plate covered.
Better yet, you'd better never go out at all, and never use a phone or computer.
Avoiding Google wouldn't prevent either of those things.
Your only choice is to get off the internet right now. And never buy anything except with cash that you've laundered so the source cannot be traced back to you.
And never use your real name or phone number or address, anywhere. Or drive your car without your license plate covered.
Better yet, you'd better never go out at all, and never use a phone or computer.
Or just not buy a google product. That seems sufficient enough privacy for me.
You try to paint the picture of privacy as black and white.
There are degrees of privacy, and the level of data (and how it's used) being collected by companies like Google, is just uncomfortable for me.
You try to paint the picture of a computer somewhere remembering what one buys or searches for, as being paramount to privacy. (Better not use a credit card, then.)
Many of us instead find that such stored context is extremely useful for electronic personal assistants, especially when used across multiple unconnected devices.
In fact, I wish Google knew when I actually bought something so it'd stop showing me ads for it just because I searched a few days ago for it
That's your right.
For me, I like that Google provides tools to monitor / control / delete that data. Others, such as Apple, have given us no such insight into the data they've collected and use to sell iAd space with.
As for collection of data, you're on an ad-supported site right now. But, just as with Google, it's incredibly benign compared to all the less known data collection companies out there that actually SELL OUR INFO to third parties... something that Google does NOT do.
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You try to paint the picture of a computer somewhere remembering what one buys or searches for, as being paramount to privacy. (Better not use a credit card, then.)
Many of us instead find that such stored context is extremely useful for electronic personal assistants, especially when used across multiple unconnected devices.
In fact, I wish Google knew when I actually bought something so it'd stop showing me ads for it just because I searched a few days ago for it
Google provides tools to monitor / control / delete that data. Apple has given us no such insight into the data they've collected and use to sell iAd space with.
And that's a very valid reason to enjoy Google services, I even agree at the convenience it provides!
But the way Google is doing it, and the way it uses the information for not-so ethical purposes (besides that convenience) is what steers me away.
I work in BI which in is a specialized application of AI. I absolutely think that this technology will continue to invade our lives as we move forward. But I think that the trend for technology and most things is mobile "take it with you." To that end, I see these devices as a stepping stone at best. I think that putting this on a device that is with you always, wherever you are will eventually be the way to go. I recall back to Star Trek that predicted so much of what we have today. The communicator built into the badge (The next generation) where you touch the badge (gesture based commands) and then spoke "computer...." to start the conversation with the AI engine. In that vein, I think that Apple is right to focus on Siri that is on the phone/watch that you carry with you all the time. It just really needs to grow up. A lot more. Alexa, if it could live on a phone/watch would probably beat Siri right now. However, in the car, my office, on the train, Alexa or this google home is of zero use. Siri at least is there even with its limitations.
Just two things to read...
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Agree - but I think having a device as "home base"makes sense. Especially if it can hand off easily.
IE
"Ok google - where is xxx restaurant?" - and then it gives location. You make a reservation via the home and then get in your car. Whether it's your cell device or car entertainment center - it automatically maps out the most direct route. Maybe it even alerts the restaurant if you're running late to hold the table.
All very doable. And just one use case.
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Consistent and rapid iteration is key. Google and Amazon are pretty good when it comes to that. Apple, I'm afraid, isn't built for those two things. They do a pretty good leapfrog game though.
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Many people here have been saying google's AI is eons ahead of SIRI - I beg to differ - Ai is, as Google's own CEO said, in the very early stages. It's crude, inconsistent and inaccurate. Currently no company has a lead on AI. I'm finding SIRI to be noticeably better. "Her" voice recognition has vastly improved - I can now talk in a "normal" tone with her. These home appliances remind me of the Wii - it was fun for a game or two but quickly became boring. How often can you ask it who the president is? And what happens when it's not with you (or in every room)? My phone is always with me and with the new stereo speakers on iPhone 7 I can hear SIRI very well.
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Yeah.... I have to side with the opinion that at least now, these things are "little more than toys". I mean, until one can actually respond sensibly, with useful information, on a very consistent basis? I would rather just do my lookups online, using a tablet, a laptop, a desktop computer or my smartphone. Chances are, I have easy access to at least one of them at a given time. And that way, everyone within earshot isn't subjected to the search results announced out loud.
I can understand people buying these to primarily act as speakers to listen to their digital music on in the background, plus that added ability to ask it things and hear replies back. But I already own enough speakers, headsets and playback devices. And it seems like the very basic concept of traditionally using speakers in pairs for stereo sound has become almost an "afterthought" for these bluetooth speakers and personal assistant devices? It always takes extra effort to get 2 paired up to work as left and right channels without some kind of issues or inconsistent behavior.
I can understand people buying these to primarily act as speakers to listen to their digital music on in the background, plus that added ability to ask it things and hear replies back. But I already own enough speakers, headsets and playback devices. And it seems like the very basic concept of traditionally using speakers in pairs for stereo sound has become almost an "afterthought" for these bluetooth speakers and personal assistant devices? It always takes extra effort to get 2 paired up to work as left and right channels without some kind of issues or inconsistent behavior.
I think Amazon and Google are doing great stuff with these products. I'm not jumping in quite yet with either product but its a solid step forward.
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I know what you mean..Countless number of times it lets me down. Never seems to be rock solid.
Your better experience might only last until you change iOS devices.
Apple's privacy policy prevents its computers from associating its knowledge of our particular voice with more than one device. That per-device policy alone makes it more difficult to use Siri across multiple devices.
Moreover, when we buy or have to get a replacement, or we turn Siri off/on, the association between that device and whatever Apple's computers have learned about our voice, is lost.
And then Apple's computers have to relearn our voice again.
This is where having central per-USER voice learning like Google does, is far superior. And it shows in real life usage, in my experience.
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To be fair about this? This has been true for many of us in the past because:
1. We trust Apple to care about our privacy far more than someone like Google or Amazon. (Apple sells a whole line of computer, phone, tablet and streaming media products - and doesn't make any money off of reselling your personal information. Google specializes in collecting information and demographics. Amazon wants to be the world's largest reseller of other people's products, while selling a few of its own items that help its agenda of selling you streaming content or physical goods through their storefront.)
2. Apple has a better track record of taking newly released products of only limited utility and improving on them until they're best in class. (The first iPhone couldn't even run its own apps. Look where it is today!) Google has a long history of inventing things, leaving them in "beta" status for ages, and then dumping them!
1. We trust Apple to care about our privacy far more than someone like Google or Amazon. (Apple sells a whole line of computer, phone, tablet and streaming media products - and doesn't make any money off of reselling your personal information. Google specializes in collecting information and demographics. Amazon wants to be the world's largest reseller of other people's products, while selling a few of its own items that help its agenda of selling you streaming content or physical goods through their storefront.)
2. Apple has a better track record of taking newly released products of only limited utility and improving on them until they're best in class. (The first iPhone couldn't even run its own apps. Look where it is today!) Google has a long history of inventing things, leaving them in "beta" status for ages, and then dumping them!
I was in the market for a speaker anyway, so I ordered a Google Home device. I'm pretty excited for it to show up next week. I think the design is fine because I want the device to disappear and not stand out like the Echo seems to do.
I'm also in the odd camp that uses macOS/iOS/iPhone, and Google for most other things.
I'm also in the odd camp that uses macOS/iOS/iPhone, and Google for most other things.